I have to admit, it was a very childish topic to start with, but I was so happy with the gain in performance I just had to share it 

 

Now I have played around some more and just completed a testflight from Arlanda X to Heathrow X, a trip that was dead certain to give an OOM either during approach or while taxing - and this with LOD 4.5, autogen set to normal etc. Now, I gave LOD radius 5.5 a shot and set autogen to very dense. Landed with 300 MB left. I call that a victory. However, during approach into Heathrow, I noticed that the groundtextures was baerly loaded in, thinking that could cause the extra or remaining VAS. But if I switched the time of day the textures started load in again.

Better vas I did not know about. I have to disable every other scenery but that I a flying to and from to keep the PMDG 777 from OOMing. I am trying out 3 scenery enabled and flying to each. If my 3rd leg ends in oom I am going to the steam edition.

It is actually the other way round, Dovetail are offering Developers a very poor deal and then Steam also want a cut.

 

Indeed, which is why the much "anticipated" DLC so far (except one) comprises a few remaindered items mainly involving saved flights masquerading as "missions" and from the reviews on Steam weren't terribly well received. This is what happens when you offer developers a tiny slice of the cake which goes mainly to middlemen who lifted not one finger to produce the goods, but receive the bulk of revenue between them. Nothing wrong with FSX-SE itself and from all accounts it runs well. Dovetail have been selling it for a whisker of a small profit hoping to cash in later on DLC, but no developer with any pride in their work or instinct for survival would ever have agreed to such terms, some of which virtually mean a net loss after expenses for the privilege of publishing on Steam.

 

Dovetail then attempts to gag all this from being known by issuing NDAs that have nothing to do with protecting proprietry rights of the parties and everything to do with trying to prevent their appalling offers from being discussed or known. In their wisdom some flightsim websites (including this one) have sensibly allowed discussion from those who have opposing views in the public interest and for that I appreciate Avsim's liberal attitude to allow such discussions.

 

So essentially FSX-SE was sold dirt cheap so that developers could be persuaded to subsidise that bargain by accepting a pittance on DLC. This is "Flight" take two. It doesn't work by any viable economic paradigm leaving aside the moral ramifications. Five major developers have already told Dovetail to get stuffed. The remainder will no doubt try to flog items they cannot shift by other means. As I said in an earlier post, all that glitters is not gold!

This is "Flight" take two.

Interesting! Clearly, from my suppositions earlier, my thinking is poles apart from reality. The direction the mobile and even game station games are moving too is the complete opposite.

 

I agree that anyone that signs an NDA based on less than moral terms is signing their life away. It doesn't bode well for their next flight sim 'Flight' take three. I fail to understand what their business plan is in that case. I'm sure they have convinced investors therefore the pressure is on them to deliver. If they plan too as you suggest, reinvent the less than polished software that has failed on the open market (and thers an awfull lot of it about) repackage it and sell it on to new customers who may not be aware of the pitfalls then good luck to them, but it won't help the hobby in the long run.

As I said in an earlier post, all that glitters is not gold!

We have a saying in latin america, or Cuba which is where I'm from, that says "not everything that shines is gold" 

I installed FSXSE a week or so ago, started putting in my addons which aren't many. PMDG, ORBX global and vector, Carenado planes, FSXglobal, LevelD, FSDT CYVR, ASN, REX4 textures. And I can't remember after which addon or why, FSXSE would instantly crash before even loading the main screen. I didn't think twice and went back to my Boxed edition which i have as ISOs in my PC. This was after a fresh install of Windows. I don't know why or how but it didn't wow me. FSX hasn't wow'd me either since ive been running at 1440p and it sucks on the performance even after upgrading to a GTX980. Now P3D decided to give me OOM after 4 mins of loading MJC Q400 at Flytampa's CYYZ, when FSX never has( i dont overload it with addons). All in all this flight simming FPS business is very frustrating, but then again I get to fly Jetstream 31/32s in RL so i can't complain. It would still be nice to have a liquid smooth sim like DCS, i mean it's 2015. Kudos to all who have a decent running sim. It sure is a beauty of a hobby

I've done enough clean installs to know that a clean install = higher fps.

 

It's the add-ons like PMDG, FTXG, Vectors, Big airports, AI traffic, and weather scenerious that slow down the sim and can cause CTDs.

 

It doesn't matter whether you're using FSX, FSX-SE, or P3D V2, if you run too many add-ons with high settings, you will eventually run out of VAS.

 

FSX is my sim of choice until a 64bit replacement comes along. I have many great airplanes, scenries, and airports and would have to deal with the compatability issues that comes with the new platforms. I prefer to simply lower my settings.

 

NOTE: I'm well aware that all 3 sims are basically the same.

I've done enough clean installs to know that a clean install = higher fps.

 

It's the add-ons like PMDG, FTXG, Vectors, Big airports, AI traffic, and weather scenerious that slow down the sim and can cause CTDs.

 

It doesn't matter whether you're using FSX, FSX-SE, or P3D V2, if you run too many add-ons with high settings, you will eventually run out of VAS.

 

FSX is my sim of choice until a 64bit replacement comes along. I have many great airplanes, scenries, and airports and would have to deal with the compatability issues comes with the new platforms. I prefer to simply lower my settings.

 

NOTE: I'm well aware that all 3 sims are basically the same.

 

I did a new install with only Global, Vector, mesh, and OpenLC. Still OOM issues with only enabling addon scenery on my departure and arrival airports. That means I have to turn sliders down like autogen and cannot run AI because it all adds just enough VAS to go so close to the limit of the 32bit application.  If the Steam version can help even a little bit that would be enough for my powerful system to finally run FSX the way I ran FS9 with no OOM issues no matter how much scenery and AI traffic I added.

I did a new install with only Global, Vector, mesh, and OpenLC. Still OOM issues with only enabling addon scenery on my departure and arrival airports. That means I have to turn sliders down like autogen and cannot run AI because it all adds just enough VAS to go so close to the limit of the 32bit application.  If the Steam version can help even a little bit that would be enough for my powerful system to finally run FSX the way I ran FS9 with no OOM issues no matter how much scenery and AI traffic I added.

If I were you, I would disable vectors when flying the 777. I would also consider running dx10 with Steve's fixer.

 

Vectors is for vfr pilots who follow roads, not for airline pilots who need to focus on flying, emergencies, and making sure the passengers are comfortable.

 

Jose

If I were you, I would disable vectors when flying the 777. I would also consider running dx10 with Steve's fixer.

 

Vectors is for vfr pilots who follow roads, not for airline pilots who need to focus on flying, emergencies, and making sure the passengers are comfortable.

 

Jose

 

I fly to airports that do not say DX10 compatible like Aerosoft German Airports and some scenery from simmarket like VTBS and others. And DX10 fixer sounds so complicated. Turn off this or turn on that depending on what scenery you use. It is all so confusing FSX is complicated enough. I finally got it to stop crashing constantly. But worry about OOM after every long 10+ hr flight.

 

I like vector because I can look out the window and enjoy the realistic scenery. I turn off ground traffic though. Water to medium. Autogen to normal. I'd like to have AI traffic (is that dx10 compatible?) back eventually to fsx.

I've done enough clean installs to know that a clean install = higher fps.

 

It's the add-ons like PMDG, FTXG, Vectors, Big airports, AI traffic, and weather scenerious that slow down the sim and can cause CTDs.

 

It doesn't matter whether you're using FSX, FSX-SE, or P3D V2, if you run too many add-ons with high settings, you will eventually run out of VAS.

 

FSX is my sim of choice until a 64bit replacement comes along. I have many great airplanes, scenries, and airports and would have to deal with the compatability issues that comes with the new platforms. I prefer to simply lower my settings.

 

NOTE: I'm well aware that all 3 sims are basically the same.

 

Hey Jose, while I don't have it myself, hasn't Xplane10 come into its own lately, tons of great addons, 64bit.  I have been wondering if I should make a move in that direction instead of FSX rebuilt as P3D.  Although I am hearing P3D 2.5 seems to be very good.

Hey Jose, while I don't have it myself, hasn't Xplane10 come into its own lately, tons of great addons, 64bit.  I have been wondering if I should make a move in that direction instead of FSX rebuilt as P3D.  Although I am hearing P3D 2.5 seems to be very good.

Hi Bryan,

 

P3D 2.5 is plagued by the same disease as its twin brother and sister.

 

As for X-Plane, the add-ons that I want are not available for X-Plane or I would have gone the X-plane route a long time ago.

 

Jose

 

 

P3D 2.5 is plagued by the same disease as its twin brother and sister.
 
As for X-Plane, the add-ons that I want are not available for X-Plane or I would have gone the X-plane route a long time ago.

I just uninstalled my Pro license of P3D 2.5 today, an expensive 200 virtual paper weight  :( May be later, but right now it's stutter galore even with 40-50 FPS.  I have no idea why that is.  As for XPlane 10, I am waiting for the IXEG and see what PMDG has to offer.

i am kinda in the middle of the road here, i don't really see a performance improvement between boxed and steam, but i would rather use the steam version which i am as its much quicker for me to install.i dont even have an optical drive on my pc anymore because so many games have gone digital, i have a usb drive if i need it, but i have been using steam for years and now all the games/sims i play are all on steam, mainly fsx and xplane.

I fly to airports that do not say DX10 compatible like Aerosoft German Airports and some scenery from simmarket like VTBS and others. And DX10 fixer sounds so complicated. Turn off this or turn on that depending on what scenery you use. It is all so confusing FSX is complicated enough. I finally got it to stop crashing constantly. But worry about OOM after every long 10+ hr flight.

 

I like vector because I can look out the window and enjoy the realistic scenery. I turn off ground traffic though. Water to medium. Autogen to normal. I'd like to have AI traffic (is that dx10 compatible?) back eventually to fsx.

The DX10 fixer should make most of your airports dx10 compatible. WOAI & My Traffic Pro work with the fixer.

 

Do some research here on AVSIM and you'll find that most who switched to dx10 did so to avoid OOM errors.

 

You can still run out of VAS if your settings are too high.

 

Jose

 

 

And DX10 fixer sounds so complicated. Turn off this or turn on that

 

No, not at all. After downloading it you must tick 3 boxes and then go fly. It has a user friendly interface that you can further tick some more boxes if you want to tweak it to your liking .

All of my many airports are compatible including Aerosofts Panc an Pafa