October 9, 201510 yr 1. HARDWARE TESSELLATION First of all, I am impressed that one major issue of P3D 2.5 with some photo textures has been addressed, namely that photo scenery looked washed out or overexposed when hardware tessellation was enabled. This was the reason why I had to switch it off in V2.5. In V3, this problem has been solved. Thus, hardware tessellation can be enabled and photo scenery textures look normal. Well done LM! 2. HDR ON & OFF I was neever satisfied with HDR in V2.5. Now in V3, HDR parameters can be adjusted, but it is still my impression that HDR OFF looks more natural. Especially in the VC, the panels look overexposed with HDR enabled (e.g. PMDG). If you adapt the lighting with the sliders to adapt the lighting for the look of the cockpit, this of course also affects the outside scenery - often in a negative way. Thus, it is difficult to adapt HDR in a way that both the VC AND the outside scenery look good. For this reason I prefer to have HDR OFF, which just looks right. I wonder what others think. Regards, Chris -- PC: Intel 13900K, Gigabyte Geforce RTX 4090, 64GB Fury Beast DDR5 RAM; Display: Varjo Aero VR
October 9, 201510 yr I think the colors look rather dull without HDR enabled to be honest. Taken, you can now adjust the HDR settings, but I still haven't found a suitable config for either day or night flying. Brynjar Mauseth
October 9, 201510 yr I also tried some configs for HDR yesterday and the best result is: turning HDR off! As you mentioned it looks the most natural to me. I leave it off :wink:
October 9, 201510 yr Yes, HDR ended up as OFF here too. I have tried adjusting HDR settings, but I just can't make HDR look natural. Olewww.flightsimnorway.com
October 9, 201510 yr I think the colors look rather dull without HDR enabled to be honest. I have to agree. The colours in FSX and P3D have always been significantly under-saturated. I find that the addition of a saturation slider is much more convenient, but finding an optimal setting is difficult. I suspect settings will also vary from situation to situation (ie, night v day....overcast v clear etc). The optimum balance between light and colour is quite subjective but also very easy to turn into a cartoon like appearance
October 9, 201510 yr Same here, since v3 I turned HDR off and I'm happy with it. Under v2.5, I was using a tweaked HDR shader. V3 offers definitely a more natural and better feeling with reproduced colors. I did not see the Tesselation problem in 2.5 as it was always enabled to reduce the load on my (too small) CPU Roland MSFS my local airport release: LFOR Chartres-Metropole MSFS Plugins RAAS (registered FSUIPC7 required) MSFS FX for Objects & Landmark in France (Steam and smoke) and Aerial coverage for French nuclear sites
October 9, 201510 yr ...glad someone brought this up...virtually all experiences and youtube vids...including my own look.....mehhhhh...washed out and lifeless, compared to previous versions of P3d. I cant find a happy medium with the latest Nvidia update ans my GTX 770. Give me my v2.x vibrancy back! Regards, Chas My first sim flight simulator Take a ride to Stinking Creek! http://youtu.be/YP3fxFqkBXg Win10 Pro, GeForce GTX 1080TI/Rizen5 5600x OCd,32 GB RAM,3x1920 x 1080, 60Hz , 27" Dell TouchScreen,TM HOTAS Warthog,TrackIR5,Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals HP reverbG2,Quest2
October 9, 201510 yr I always had HDR off in 2.5 but I used a program called Shade which made the simulator look stunning. I am also finding that having HDR off in v3 also looks better to me, especially at night. I just need to figure out how to get Shade to work in v3!! Eric i9-12900k, RTX 5070ti OC, 32GB ddr5 5600 RAM, 2TB 980 Pro SSD, Titan 240RX AIO, Samsung CRG90 49", Win 11
October 10, 201510 yr I always had HDR off in 2.5 but I used a program called Shade which made the simulator look stunning. I am also finding that having HDR off in v3 also looks better to me, especially at night. I just need to figure out how to get Shade to work in v3!! Check out this site Flic1. It works for me in V3. www.reshade.me Stupidly expensive rig, nonplussed Memsahib, disinterested offspring and a fascinated cat as Rio. XP11, P3Dv3 and an Oculus Rift.
October 10, 201510 yr Commercial Member I am flying with it both on and off, depending on what the scenario might be. The bloom effect looks very good within sunrises or sunsets with clouds as it makes the clouds and sky have a nice golden look. Brightness can be used to enhance the look of things in situations that are sunny and where one might wear sunglasses. As an example, I use higher brightness settings when I am flying in the summer in places that are hot like Phoenix, Arizona. Another example is to have a higher level brightness on a sunny day when flying in snow covered mountains. Gives a nice effect. I do have to say that HDR off also looks really good, but all in all I am glad that this functionality is available so the user can define certain visual parameters. REX AccuSeason Developer REX Simulations
October 10, 201510 yr For v2.5 I had 2 different HDR files . One for day and one for night. Together with 2 Sweet Fx files , also one for day and one for night. Next week I will dive into the HDR/SweetFx thing after I have finished my Project Magenta setup. 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
October 10, 201510 yr Colors do look bland in fsx but I can't stand HDR! Especially at nights - it's soooo fake. Nights are bright, glass displays look silly! So it's off for me But on in XP10 hehe | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
October 10, 201510 yr For those who find the colors too bland without P3D HDR enabled and have an Nvidia card - did you set 'Output Dynamic Range' to 'Full' in Nvidia Control Panel/Display/Change Resolution?
November 6, 201510 yr For those who find the colors too bland without P3D HDR enabled and have an Nvidia card - did you set 'Output Dynamic Range' to 'Full' in Nvidia Control Panel/Display/Change Resolution? Thank you very much! Works great, and I prefer to use this parameter with HDR enabled! Gerardo Cabezón
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