October 27, 201510 yr Hey All, I get it - SSD's are the way to GO! - However when I hear about 2 and 3 SSD's on a system where are You Physically Locating Them - Pci slots ?? - Externally Usb ?? - Buss Extender ?? - I would Love to Slap in an SSD - but My MB Slots are WAY Clogged up with all sorts of Abaolutely Necessarry :rolleyes: !! - Electro Junk - Just trying to see if I'm Missing Something - Any Help Appreciated - Thanks in Advance - Johnman B)
October 27, 201510 yr Same place you put regular hard drives. My Prepar3Dv2 settings: http://tinyurl.com/p3ygdb7
October 27, 201510 yr Same place you put regular hard drives. In addition to the above, unless it's a newer case with the correct size for a 2.5" SSD, you may have to get an adapter for the SSD to sit in. Here's some: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=ssd+adapter&N=-1&isNodeId=1 Philip Manhart :American Flag: - "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." ~ Plato
October 27, 201510 yr Author Hey Pasayten, Thanks - NowIgottcha - I was Under the mistaken Assumption that an SSD Required a Slot - Johnman
October 27, 201510 yr Moderator There are SOME SSD's that come on a card and DO require a PCI slot available however the majority are connected through the regular SATA ports. Vic RIG#1 - I9 14900K MSI Pro z790 RTX 5070Ti 40" 4K Monitor 3840x2160
October 27, 201510 yr SATA, PCI, PCIe, M.2 ...this list goes on and on. lol Just refer to your motherboard manufacturer's manual and it'll give you a rundown on where they go, how they are installed. -Jim Engage, research, inform and make your posts count! -Jim Morvay Origin EON-17SLX - Under the hood: Intel Core i7 7700K at 4.2GHz (Base) 4.6GHz (overclock), nVidia GeForce GTX-1080 Pascal w/8gb vram, 32gb (2x16) Crucial 2400mhz RAM, 3840 x 2160 17.3" IPS w/G-SYNC, Samsung 950 EVO 256GB PCIe m.2 SSD (Primary), Samsung 850 EVO 500gb M.2 (Sim Drive), MS Windows 10 Professional 64-Bit
October 27, 201510 yr If your PC has little shelves and allows for a ssd case (adapters), these are great, ive got all my ssd's in one http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00566QROQ?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00 There expensive, but i love them :smile:
October 27, 201510 yr I've just purchased and fitted a ssd for P3D v3 :- 256GB Samsung 850 PRO, 2.5" SSD, SATA III 6Gb/s, MEX, 3D V-NAND, Read 550MB/s, Write 520MB/s, 100k/90k IOPS. Checked out my motherboard to see if there where any available sata 111 6Gb/s connections. and purchased a sata 111 cable and slotted it in the rack. no need for brackets on my computer, their is a built in rack with clips. after installation had to go to manage my computer and disk management. bob
October 27, 201510 yr Commercial Member Double sided velcro works well so you can put your SSD just where you want it for cable management. Regards jja Jim Allen[email protected]SkyPilot Software home of FSXAssist / P3DAssist
October 28, 201510 yr Author Thanks Guys for all Your Help - I now feel Informed - and an SSD Looks a Lot closer - Thanks again !! Johnman B)
October 28, 201510 yr I have an m.2 adapter on the mobo with a 480gb SSD and three 240gb traditional SSD's. love them. I saw a 240gb drive for $60 the other day. Prices are becoming very attractive. Jeff Callender
October 28, 201510 yr I pre-ordered one of these, which I'm super excited about: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/10/950-pro-review-samsungs-first-pcie-m-2-nvme-ssd-is-an-absolute-monster/ Amazon says I should have it on Monday. 350,000 read IOPS, 140,000 write IOPS... This thing should scream! I will however be making it my boot disk and keep P3D & FSX on my 840 Pro. Any move to a SSD is huge. Even the low end ones do about 80,000 read 50,000 write IOPS, versus a spinning 7200 RPM drive is like an average of 80 IOPS. (There are of course many other factors that influence drive speed, such as transfer rates, sequential vs random, and even what humans are able to perceive.)
October 28, 201510 yr Author Hello Waterterman, Give us an update when You get it Installed !! - Johnman B)
October 28, 201510 yr I pre-ordered one of these, which I'm super excited about: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/10/950-pro-review-samsungs-first-pcie-m-2-nvme-ssd-is-an-absolute-monster/ Amazon says I should have it on Monday. 350,000 read IOPS, 140,000 write IOPS... This thing should scream! I will however be making it my boot disk and keep P3D & FSX on my 840 Pro. Any move to a SSD is huge. Even the low end ones do about 80,000 read 50,000 write IOPS, versus a spinning 7200 RPM drive is like an average of 80 IOPS. (There are of course many other factors that influence drive speed, such as transfer rates, sequential vs random, and even what humans are able to perceive.) I have this one installed: http://www.amazon.de/Samsung-SSD-SM951-256GB-MZHPV256HDGL-00000/dp/B00VELD92U/ref=sr_1_1?s=ce-de&ie=UTF8&qid=1446014200&sr=1-1&keywords=samsung+sm951 And it is really FAST. But in daily use you will not see a huge boost from a SATA SSD to the M.2 SSD. At least in my case. With CrystalMark I get around 2 GB/s reading and 1 GB/s writting :smile:
October 28, 201510 yr Hey All, I get it - SSD's are the way to GO! - However when I hear about 2 and 3 SSD's on a system where are You Physically Locating Them - Pci slots ?? - Externally Usb ?? - Buss Extender ?? - I would Love to Slap in an SSD - but My MB Slots are WAY Clogged up with all sorts of Abaolutely Necessarry :rolleyes: !! - Electro Junk - Just trying to see if I'm Missing Something - Any Help Appreciated - Thanks in Advance - Johnman B) As the other lads said re installation. Some PC enclosures now come with a mounting option behind the motherboard tray also. The SSD situation is a complex one. 2.5 inch SSD's were originally designed with the 2.5 form factor so they could be installed in laptops. In reality though, it was always known that the 2.5 form factor was bigger than it needed to be to house the chips. Open up an SSD and there's often tons of space inside. Enter M.2. With the advent of the M.2 slot, it was no longer necessary to house the SSD in a bigger 2.5 inch housing. Hence SSD chips on a small M.2 card became available. No more need for a SATA cable and power cable to be plugged into the drive. However... they were still limited by the speed of the SATA bus. Enter PCIe SSD's. These devices have recently been introduced. They also slot into an M.2 slot on the motherboard, just like M.2 SATA SSD's, but rather than leveraging the SATA bus, they make use of much faster PCIe lanes. Enter the U.2 form factor for the blisteringly fast Intel 750, even greater speed than PCIe M.2 SSD's. It's simply a case of attaching a U.2 adapter into the motherboards M.2 slot, you can then run a U.2 cable to the 2.5 inch form factor Intel 750. It doesn't stop there though. The Intel 750 is also available as a PCIe slot add in card. Same speed as the U.2 drive but just more convenient for some as a card. As you can see from the above, the introduction of M.2 and U.2 has been an utter shambles, with many tech experts regarding it as the most shambolic introduction of new storage technology ever! So don't be surprised if you're confused. I have this one installed: http://www.amazon.de/Samsung-SSD-SM951-256GB-MZHPV256HDGL-00000/dp/B00VELD92U/ref=sr_1_1?s=ce-de&ie=UTF8&qid=1446014200&sr=1-1&keywords=samsung+sm951 And it is really FAST. But in daily use you will not see a huge boost from a SATA SSD to the M.2 SSD. At least in my case. With CrystalMark I get around 2 GB/s reading and 1 GB/s writting :smile: Yes that's actually true. M.2 and U.2 won't provide a huge speed increase in every day use over a conventional SSD. Applications and games won't demonstrate much of an improvement. Awesome performance in targeted benchmarks yes. Demanding sequential transfers yes. I was going down the Intel 750 route for my new build, probably won't now after research.
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