June 12, 20169 yr I have both. UTX and Vector. I only use UTX roads only. Better VAS management. I hate all this airport disabling stuff. Not consumer friendly. Looking forward to USA LC by ORBX and a option to disable regions with one click please. Michael Moe Michael Moe
June 12, 20169 yr As far as I know those are the only two programs available - UTX would be the better choice but a bit of a pain to get up and running on P3D - personally I dont bother with either and will await the new Orbx lower US LC and leave it at that I dislike the two part installer as well, Rich, but it's self installing, and shows the dirt road in front of my Stinking Creek farmhouse... ...Orbx Vector can't touch that....bought it...dumped $50 in the toilet... ...I've got every SUPERB version of UTX...putting good LandClass on top of REAL; Roads Rail Coast lines Water ways Electrical grid...the list goes on and on.... UTX so vastly improves ANY FSx Based sim beyond belief that I refuse to fly without it....kinda like TrackIR. If I want fictitious frame-killingly pretty....I will invoke Orbx SCA, or Frame friendly, Magnificent New Zealand or SE Alaska....places where reality based UTXeye-candy gets beaten or does not yet exist. Just my curmudgeonly way of viewing the world... Cheers Chas My first sim flight simulator Take a ride to Stinking Creek! http://youtu.be/YP3fxFqkBXg Win10 Pro, GeForce GTX 1080TI/Rizen5 5600x OCd,32 GB RAM,3x1920 x 1080, 60Hz , 27" Dell TouchScreen,TM HOTAS Warthog,TrackIR5,Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals HP reverbG2,Quest2
June 12, 20169 yr I dislike the two part installer as well, Rich, but it's self installing, and shows the dirt road in front of my Stinking Creek farmhouse... ...Orbx Vector can't touch that....bought it...dumped $50 in the toilet... ...I've got every SUPERB version of UTX...putting good LandClass on top of REAL; Roads Rail Coast lines Water ways Electrical grid...the list goes on and on.... UTX so vastly improves ANY FSx Based sim beyond belief that I refuse to fly without it....kinda like TrackIR. If I want fictitious frame-killingly pretty....I will invoke Orbx SCA, or Frame friendly, Magnificent New Zealand or SE Alaska....places where reality based UTXeye-candy gets beaten or does not yet exist. Just my curmudgeonly way of viewing the world... Cheers Chas Why do people keep talking about a 2 part installer. There is no such thing, you click install after downloading it, and it installs. Is that complicated? One click, done!!!!
June 12, 20169 yr If you fly VFR you get the best accurateness with photo scenery, thus without vector. If you fly IFR, you do not care about vector either. I have been pondering this today, as I have been making photoscenery - what is the role of vector programs for photoscenery users? I think they do have some purpose: 1. If you're water masking your scenery, you need the water data - default misses some lakes. 2. I think - but i'm not sure - that you'll get more road traffic, as it follows the vector roads. At any rate, traffic should be better placed. 3. My scenery has power lines - I suspect they're coming from the vector data. Maybe some of the antennas as well, haven't tried turning off the vector program to see if it's placing them. Can't think of much else that vector data add to photoscenery. If anyone knows - let me know! I'm trying our Orbx Vector, after buying it in the recent sales - despite the general negativity around here to it. I normally use UTX, which I like. So far, Vector seems fine - not aware of it causing me any problems. I suspect long term I'll use it for areas not covered by UTX. Oz Sim Rig: MSI RTX3090 Suprim, an old, partly-melted Intel 9900K @ 5GHz+, Honeycomb Alpha, Thrustmaster TPR Rudder, Warthog HOTAS, Reverb G2, Prosim 737 cockpit. Currently flying: MSFS: PMDG 737-700, Fenix A320, Leonardo MD-82, MIlviz C310, Flysimware C414AW, DC Concorde, Carenado C337. Prepar3d v5: PMDG 737/747/777. "There are three simple rules for making a smooth landing. Unfortunately, no one knows what they are."
June 12, 20169 yr Why do people keep talking about a 2 part installer. There is no such thing, you click install after downloading it, and it installs. Is that complicated? One click, done!!!! Maybe now but when it first came out there was different installers as P3D progressed - thats the truth I dislike the two part installer as well, Rich, but it's self installing, and shows the dirt road in front of my Stinking Creek farmhouse... 1+ Rich Sennett
June 12, 20169 yr Maybe now but when it first came out there was different installers as P3D progressed - thats the truth 1+ Well it's been updated since it first came out.
June 12, 20169 yr Moderator Well it's been updated since it first came out. You are both right. Initially, the users of the ORIGINAL FSX versions had to do a two part dance to get UTX updated properly in P3D. Since then they have updated their installers and it's a fast, one step operation. Vic RIG#1 - I9 14900K MSI Pro z790 RTX 5070Ti 40" 4K Monitor 3840x2160
June 12, 20169 yr You are both right. Initially, the users of the ORIGINAL FSX versions had to do a two part dance to get UTX updated properly in P3D. Since then they have updated their installers and it's a fast, one step operation. Vic Exactly but seems Bob doesnt believe me Rich Sennett
June 13, 20169 yr Author Why do people keep talking about a 2 part installer. There is no such thing, you click install after downloading it, and it installs. Is that complicated? One click, done!!!! I must have missed a download, but for P3Dv3.3, I had to run one executable, install a patch and then run the two part installer. And that is after going through the infernal Flight1 authentication process. I did this today as i installed everything fresh. Jeff Callender
June 13, 20169 yr You Guys must not have been in the loop when developer was making it work in P3D - Flight1 Forums is an excellent place to visit - lots to learn there Rich Sennett
June 13, 20169 yr I have not had any problems with Vector since I bought it several weeks ago. Granted I don't fly the PMDG 777 with legacy scenery addons and maxed AI traffic, either. And it's global versus UTX's North America/Tropics/Europe. Note that I'm not in any way putting down UTX products, I have them too and like them a lot, I just don't get where all the complaints about Vector come from. It has also been updated significantly since it first released, and also is about to get another major update (1.40.) OrbX OpenLC + Vector is a jaw dropping combination IMHO.
June 13, 20169 yr +1 I do not want to upset somebody or be off-topic, but at Avsim you can give reputation points (green arrow) if you agree with an other poster instead of using +1. It makes threads not too lengthy with non-relevant information or content. I am just saying this because the reputation system appears not to be used often. Regards, Chris -- PC: Intel 13900K, Gigabyte Geforce RTX 4090, 64GB Fury Beast DDR5 RAM; Display: Varjo Aero VR
June 13, 20169 yr And it's global versus UTX's North America/Tropics/Europe. if it doesn't show the dirt road in front of my farmhouse...as UTX does, and the train tracks 5miles away ...as UTX does...and the power company right-of-way 3 miles away and the accurate lake shoreline In west KNOX county near Corbin, KY, ..as UTX depicts... FTX Global Vector may claim to be global...But if Vector's details around these parts were BLACK, i would be living in a HOLE. FTXGV resembles a pervericating 5-year-old armed with a water color filled squirt-gun and 1/2 empty magic markers promising to paint inside the numbers on a canvas which is missing the first fifty digits. At least that's the way it looks from my front porch and 5000 feet above it. Top-down Screenshot comparisons don't lie. I'd be happy to be proven that I didn't flush half-a-hunnert-BUX down the privey with my download. Cheers, Chas My first sim flight simulator Take a ride to Stinking Creek! http://youtu.be/YP3fxFqkBXg Win10 Pro, GeForce GTX 1080TI/Rizen5 5600x OCd,32 GB RAM,3x1920 x 1080, 60Hz , 27" Dell TouchScreen,TM HOTAS Warthog,TrackIR5,Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals HP reverbG2,Quest2
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