5 hours ago, eaim said:

Fair enough, but i'll only get it, if it is a genuine study level aircraft (or dam close to it). Then it will be worth it.

So study level at $75?  Pmdg is study level at twice that.  I'm not even sure what study level is.  I bought the Q400 pro on sale, watched a few YT vids, and asked a few Q's on these forums - I think I've got a good handle on it.  But I didn't study much hehe.

Not really sure why people are so up in arms about the price of the thing. The new CS 757 is about 55 quid when the price is converted to Sterling. Whilst not cheap, I think it does compare quite favourably with many other add-ons when we examine some of them, although it would seem likely to me at least, that people would want a Rolls Royce-engined variant of the 757 in their hangar, since that is the 'hot rod' amongst 757s in terms of power to weight ratio. But anyway, let's examine where it sits in the pricing structure of a few relatively recently released add-on airliners of comparable feature levels...

Quality Wings FSX 787 is about 57 quid.

PMDG B747-400 for P3D is about 99 quid.

PMDG 737-800/900 for P3D is about 65 quid.

iFly 747-400 for P3D is about 50 quid.

iFly 737 NG for P3D is about 65 quid.

Majestic Dash 8 Q400 for P3D (pro version) is about 60 quid.

FSL A320 for P3D is about 99 quid.

Some of the above end up costing more with taxes, variable exchange rates and stuff (for example, I got really stiffed when buying the FSL A320 and I think it ended up being nearer 120 quid when I bought it), but generally speaking the above is more or less what they will cost to buy.

So, the new CS 757 is, with the exception of the iFly 747-400, the cheapest of all of those quoted examples. But it is of course a beta release, so one assumes it might need some sorting out although we can assume that CS are at least reasonably convinced it is in a fairly complete condition if they are selling it, thus it's up to the buyer to decide whether they are happy with that contention. Personally I would think a beta release ought to be a bit cheaper than a final price given that one is effectively paying to test the thing for the developer, which should in my view warrant at least some kind of concession, for example, it might end up being the case with perhaps a discount for early adopters when buying an expansion or some such.

One does also have to factor in that some of those other aeroplanes I listed are more well-endowed packages than others, the most notable examples being the PMDG B747-400 and the iFly 737 NG, which both include a very large amount of variants. Most of the others listed will give you a few different engine variants, for example the FSL gives you two engine options, the iFly 747 gives you three engine choices and so on. It's probably also worth noting that some of the above examples will also include either further expansions in that price or some other kind of concession, for example the iFly 747-400 will eventually include a 747-8 variant when that is completed, for no extra cost, and owners of the QW 787 will be offered a discounted price for the P3D variant (allegedly 25 quid, and for a limited period) when that becomes available.

Based on past practices from CS, such discounts may appear to be an unlikely prospect with the CS 757, which at present is limited to one main engine choice, but as noted, you never know, they may offer a concession to beta purchasers as a reward for being early adopters for example. But let's assume we're going to have to pay perhaps 20 quid each for other engine variants and models as expansions of the base CS 757 package. This would take the price up a bit shy of the 100 quid mark if one added a couple of variants, so comparable to the price of the FSL A320, which is kind of getting on the steep side of things, but, if one is happy enough with a single engine variant of the 757 and the CS is as detailed and accurate as CS are touting it to be, then 55 quid is not actually too bad a price and this is especially the case given that if you want a shiny all-new 757, it is presently the only option you've got for P3D, which is not the case for a lot of other aeroplanes such as the 747 and A320, where you do have some choice in products available.

 

3 hours ago, Lenny777 said:

So far all systems are functioning. The first test was to program the FMC, start it up, APU, engine start, taxing, getting it up, capturing the flight path with CMD, LNAV/VNAV engaged, flying the flight path. In fact, I stupidly forgot to turn on my PACKS after I got it into the air and I had warnings about air and pressurization.

As I have started up PMDG's Boeings - 737,777, 747 I considered the same systems in terms of their operability , the HYD pumps, electrical systems, fuel pumps and found not a single variation in terms of their functioning which caused me to stop and take note. So at least from that standpoint you have a fully functioning system like any capable addon like PMDG. I could not state the same thing about IFly's 737 or 747 for example where I had several issues though they are for the most part dealt with I still have curious behaviours with those planes.

I'm waiting for a show stopper even as a beta plane and have yet to see it. But I'm only half way through my flight.

UPDATING my own post. So the flight was from LDDU to ESSA.  TOD worked like a charm. Appears the vertical profile was right on. Came in on the numbers with an ILS approach as good as any of the best addons. Very pleased with the entire flight and this plane. One of the better purchases I've made the last few years.

 

Next flight when I get a chance is to pay even closer attention to the systems but from my perspective I did not find any problems so far.   Can't wait for more liveries. 

12 minutes ago, ryanbatcund said:

I'm not even sure what study level is.  I bought the Q400 pro on sale, watched a few YT vids, and asked a few Q's on these forums - I think I've got a good handle on it.  But I didn't study much hehe.

Very true, the only flightsim addons I've really had to study for and practice with are DCS aircraft which can be exceptionally complicated to fly (usually it's the shooting part that makes them very complicated).

5 minutes ago, Chock said:

Not really sure why people are so up in arms about the price of the thing...

Well said and rational Chock.

@Chock whilst I take your point the CS757v2 is not expensive relative to most other airliners I note you have only stated P3D prices, if you were to quote the FSX prices too I don't think the picture looks favourable on any of them! Although I suspect that particular discussion has probably been had ad nauseum by now and I'll just have to lump it :( The only P3D airliner I have is the Majestic Q400 Pilot edition, because it's the only one that I consider sensibly priced.

I think people are "up in arms about the price " because they're thinking of the price relative to typical CS system simulation depth, rather than this specific product which seems to go rather deeper.

 

12 minutes ago, Chock said:

Not really sure why people are so up in arms about the price of the thing.

 

I agree with Chock and regis9, and furthermore, IMHO, if paying more keeps these developers in business and producing the kinds of payware we're seeing lately, I'm in.

1 hour ago, jalbino59 said:

A question about systems, do the control surfaces move without hydraulics activated like the FSX version did?

The flight controls do not move until hydraulics are added. 

12 minutes ago, ckyliu said:

@Chock whilst I take your point the CS757v2 is not that expensive compared to most other airliners I notice you have quoted only quoted P3D prices, if you were to quote the FSX prices too I don't think the picture looks favourable on any of them!

Well, aside from the fact that this is the P3D forum, so I was attempting to keep it reasonably relevant, there actually is an FSX price in that list, that being the QW 787, which I stuck in there because it garnered a lot of interest for P3D users when it came out since we know there's a P3D version currently in beta testing and it is one which will be cheap for P3D users who've bought the FSX version (almost identical in price to the CS 757 in fact, if one buys the P3D version with the loyalty discount, but of course with the buyer ending up with the thing for two different sim platforms, or, cheaper than the CS 757 if one buys it for P3D alone). We do also have to bear in mind licensing prices for developers are more expensive in P3D than they are in FSX, although I note that the CS 757 is not (as far as I can determine) an officially licensed Boeing product.

I don't mind paying 75 dollars once out of beta. 

Could  any of you who own the 757 post some  screenshots of the vc please? Thanks! 

Is there any glass cockpit version or is it just the standard cockpit?

Glass cockpit: 

(not my photo)

3 minutes ago, Milton Waddams said:

Is there any glass cockpit version or is it just the standard cockpit?

Glass cockpit: 

(not my photo)

Just standard. No word if they plan a glass upgrade. 

3 minutes ago, Wise87 said:

Just standard. No word if they plan a glass upgrade. 

I guess time will tell!

6 hours ago, Alcides Segovia said:

This thing is awesome. I finally had a chance to install and fly it. The systems are really good depth. The quality of the switches and the buttons is really good. Has kind of a TFDI/PMDG feel. 

The screens are great quality. System depth is good for a soft release. 

Aircraft is completely flysble. Doing a transcontinental right now. 

Things to improve 

1. Aircraft fuel and payload editor on a tablet,or FMC (Suggestion has been opened on their forum reply if you own so they add his feature) 

2. Engine spool up has to be modified. 

3. Tracking has to be tweaked. On the SKOOR3 out of JFK LNAV at times was chasing the course. Other than that it’s a really great aircraft and I am really happy with it. 

Finally a 757 of the likes of Flight Factor in P3D!

Are you a pilot or mechanic? How do you make system depth and pmdg feel claims?

4 hours ago, ryanbatcund said:

So study level at $75?  Pmdg is study level at twice that.  I'm not even sure what study level is.  I bought the Q400 pro on sale, watched a few YT vids, and asked a few Q's on these forums - I think I've got a good handle on it.  But I didn't study much hehe.

The PMDG 737 package is around that 75 dollar price point.