I in turn would like the 787 to be at a FSL level of perfection. 🙂 OK, it doesn't cost as much, but please, make it work with the least quantity of bugs and misbehaviours possible. The cockpit lighting is a joke provided the real knobs for adjusting the level of lightness aren't being used, and this is something that can be fixed easily. VNAV and LNAV are so primitive too, a HOLD is impossible to perform correctly, RNAV procedures a mess, even Level Change won't work correctly unless you change the speeds so very slowly. These are a few things I recall, but there's plenty of stuff to be fixed or improved. Airplane has lots of potential, it's a good product but needs serious fixes.

Silly grown men looking for something to argue about..

I work for a small developer and am the texture artist,,,,I paint,,,someone else programs or does the flight model, and I know nothing about that or want to know what he does or how he does it. 

I think this dev needs a break here and we should look at the amount of work and  hours, weeks, years that have gone into this product and enjoy it for what it is.

Edited February 26, 20197 yr by warbirds

I have to say I LOVE the Quality Wings 787. It is an absolute blast to fly. I also added the now OLD PROP immersion package and for the price of the aircraft I think it is well worth it. I look forward to the -10 release. I have flown mostly the Carenado aircraft before this and find this a welcome addition to the hanger. 

Keep up the good work "Quality Wings" get a few updates out (PBR/ -10) and then start on another aircraft... My vote is for the new 777-X.

are the guages smooth in the 787? 

On 2/26/2019 at 1:55 PM, warbirds said:

Silly grown men looking for something to argue about..

I work for a small developer and am the texture artist,,,,I paint,,,someone else programs or does the flight model, and I know nothing about that or want to know what he does or how he does it. 

I think this dev needs a break here and we should look at the amount of work and  hours, weeks, years that have gone into this product and enjoy it for what it is.

Grown men name calling is what is silly...surely you know this.🧐

Results are what matter, not how long something took to accomplish. And the QW 787 results are not up to par with their own claims. This is not a silly requirement/argument/debate, just a pure unadulterated fact, that needs to be addressed. The QW feature list and the QW price of the 787 product, make this an important matter. 

Think clearly Paul. With your logic, just because a murderer or bank robber takes time to plan/complete their crimes we should enjoy what they have done? In other words, if we do not like what they have done (QW claim and what is/has been delivered), why should how long they took to do it matter at all? Time does not matter. The effort leading to failure is still failure no matter the time involved-- results matter!

When QW makes an announcement that PBR is on the way, it is a very fair question to ask: "what about the features that have been on the feature list, for years!?" - not silly, very rational, and good.

I hope you understand, but if you prefer a lower standard that is your choice. I think its better to call for a higher standard, because a higher standard suits more of a majority of the community. 👨‍⚖️

Just ask yourself, when you develop textures, do you do your best or does quality even matter? And what about the systems programmer of a airplane that you textured, would you rather the systems programmer do the job that fulfills the feature requirements, or not. If they asked for some advice or if you knew of a "idea/concept" that could help them, would you help them? you say 'no' now, but that would be silly...only hurting yourself. 👨‍🎓

The time it took/takes for QW to complete their products to their own specifications is QW's problem, not ours. 

13 hours ago, fakeflyer737 said:

are the guages smooth in the 787? 

Not sure what you mean by "smooth" Ron, could you elaborate..

14 hours ago, fakeflyer737 said:

are the guages smooth in the 787? 

Kind of, to me they are fine as they are. Not the superfast refresh rate, but at least I did never get the impression of laggy or non-smooth gauges.

6 minutes ago, AnkH said:

Kind of, to me they are fine as they are. Not the superfast refresh rate, but at least I did never get the impression of laggy or non-smooth gauges.

Same here.

On 3/2/2019 at 8:06 AM, pracines said:

Grown men name calling is what is silly...surely you know this.🧐

Results are what matter, not how long something took to accomplish. And the QW 787 results are not up to par with their own claims. This is not a silly requirement/argument/debate, just a pure unadulterated fact, that needs to be addressed. The QW feature list and the QW price of the 787 product, make this an important matter. 

Think clearly Paul. With your logic, just because a murderer or bank robber takes time to plan/complete their crimes we should enjoy what they have done? In other words, if we do not like what they have done (QW claim and what is/has been delivered), why should how long they took to do it matter at all? Time does not matter. The effort leading to failure is still failure no matter the time involved-- results matter!

When QW makes an announcement that PBR is on the way, it is a very fair question to ask: "what about the features that have been on the feature list, for years!?" - not silly, very rational, and good.

I hope you understand, but if you prefer a lower standard that is your choice. I think its better to call for a higher standard, because a higher standard suits more of a majority of the community. 👨‍⚖️

Just ask yourself, when you develop textures, do you do your best or does quality even matter? And what about the systems programmer of a airplane that you textured, would you rather the systems programmer do the job that fulfills the feature requirements, or not. If they asked for some advice or if you knew of a "idea/concept" that could help them, would you help them? you say 'no' now, but that would be silly...only hurting yourself. 👨‍🎓

The time it took/takes for QW to complete their products to their own specifications is QW's problem, not ours. 

I'm not seeing any LNAV issues (never had a complaint with it). Just flew from KDEN to KIAD and it handled perfectly. It might have improved by patch since you have flown it? Yes VNAV there are still some issues that seem to be related to STAR altitude restrictions. I'm sure they will fix it in this next update.

I do agree the wind forecast doesn't work/is broken and should be a top priority for this kind of plane. But I think this is a good product with a few rough edges.

55 minutes ago, JasonPC said:

I'm not seeing any LNAV issues (never had a complaint with it). Just flew from KDEN to KIAD and it handled perfectly. It might have improved by patch since you have flown it? Yes VNAV there are still some issues that seem to be related to STAR altitude restrictions. I'm sure they will fix it in this next update.

I do agree the wind forecast doesn't work/is broken and should be a top priority for this kind of plane. But I think this is a good product with a few rough edges.

FWIW, I just thought you should be aware... pracines doesn't even own the QW787...

I thought it was important to let people, who might not otherwise be aware of it, know that..

Edited March 3, 20197 yr by SunDevil56

I did a flight last night (3/02/19) - QW787-9 Qantas skin... YBBN to NZAA.. Departed using AIRAC 1901 SIDS and Approach STAR  Started the flight at around 1700 local Brisbane time,  as the sun was sinking - REX Clouds, ACTIVE SKY weather.. ORBX Aus and NZ and ORBX YBBN. Calculated around 33,000 lbs fuel from memory. Full passenger load (2 seats empty).

Flight was faultless.

Came into Auckland around 2245  - city lights below, 23L approach BASIN1 approach , hit the right heights .. Used APP only, not LOC and it picked up and after a slight over swing, centred correctly on the ILS. Flaps progression, gear down at 15 flaps, and smooth landing with 25 flaps and reverse thrust.

Very enjoyable and it will remain on my system and not be hangered. ( like many others I have bought in the past).

I like the interface and the included SIDS and STARS on the Pilots pad - makes for an easy selection of the correct SID or STARS.

Overall - a big thumbs up for the QW team - Looking forward to the upcoming fixes the PBR textures and the 787-10. Thanks Guys!!

Edited March 4, 20197 yr by ray hughes

Am on v1.1.2 and suffer occasional glitches.

Sometimes with no warning:

- LNAV will fail and then heading select won't work either.

- Autothrottle will spool the engines up or down very, very slowly.

- Autopilot and / or autothrottle will be stuck in the last selected mode and won't disengage.

- If P3D crashes, I can never re-start a 787 flight from the previous point mid-air - I get the nosedive problem.

When it works (about 85% of the time), there's a lot to enjoy about it. However, it's still a bit flimsy and I can't trust that it will complete a flight. Fix these problems and I'll give it the praise it would deserve.

The only major glitch I've encountered only happened once. Both engines shut down on landing when I applied reverse thrust. No, I wasn't out of fuel. 😉 I half-jokingly asked over on their forums if they modeled that on purpose, since some RW 787s have encountered that problem, but they didn't.

I don't know what caused it, and it's never happened since. But I've completed a good number of trips in it without difficulty. Yes, sometimes I have to override what the autopilot wants to do in vnav, and yes it will be nice when that is fixed but until then -- hey, this is the failure-mode simulation that people wish they'd model anyway. Fly the plane.

I suppose what made me respond (don't worry, I'm not going to yakk at him again, at least until he, you know, buys the thing and has something to actually complain about) so many times is that I've got a lot of payware in my hangar, from Carenado to PMDG and Leonardo. No, the 787 isn't as good as those last two, but it blows Carenado out of the water. It's an upper-mid-tier product at upper-mid-tier prices.

I'd definitely be considerably more annoyed at bugs like this if they were charging PMDG prices, but they aren't. I paid less than half of what you pay for a P3D PMDG release, and I got a plane that's more than 50% as good as PMDG. That's OK in my book.

 

Edited March 4, 20197 yr by eslader

On 3/1/2019 at 5:06 PM, fakeflyer737 said:

are the guages smooth in the 787? 

I cant actually check right now as I have been busy building a new system in the little spare time I can find. But I do not remember any delays, certainly not anything noticeable. FPS could use a slight improvement as I get a little better frame rate with the iFLY747, but no deal breaker. I cant wait for the -10 release.

The HUD is unusable because the refresh rate is so bad. The displays aren’t much better.