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New MS Flight Sim shown at E3 - Updated Information

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ASOBO?   AS-MGS... maybe that's what the AS stands for.

Hook

Larry Hookins

 

Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;

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what if the new fs2020 is to showcase the upcoming project scarlett 2020 and trow in a dedicated vr headset to boot...😵

10 minutes ago, nonflyingdutchman said:

what if the new fs2020 is to showcase the upcoming project scarlett 2020 and trow in a dedicated vr headset to boot...😵

From Asobo's website:

As the first independent studio involved in the Microsoft HoloLens program, Asobo is now a world leader of the holographic entertainment.

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I just checked out the ASOBO site.  All I can say is, "Wow."

Larry Hookins

 

Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;

Little late to the party on this news, but it sure is refreshing and encouraging after reading the other thread become a novel on speculation regarding the points they just confirmed.  To have 'the horses mouth' confirm there is an SDK, eat some humble pie from the past mistakes, and a commitment to listen to the community, all bodes well for the road ahead.   I think the members on the team who are passionate and also fly, must be giving alot of input of what our community really wants out of this.  

As for the cost of moving over, well thats the price you pay in any hobby.  It will be a hard swallow, but sometimes thats the only way to move forward. It happens with PC hardware as an example. Sometimes the new GPUs, ram , or something else will need a whole new MB, then you need a new power supply to keep up with the power demand, and so on.  I can think of many hobbies that have the same relevance if you want to progress with technology.  Thankfully if this works out, it will be just as gradual as FS9-FSX as FSX-P3D was for addons to catch up. 

Looking forward to August!

CYVR LSZH 

I7-14700k 64gb 6000Mhz DDR5 ASUS  z690 ROG STRIX Gaming  RTX 4080 Super, 

Interesting if it supports VR out of the box as X-Plane does. VR in P3D leaves a lot to be desired with 3rd party product currently needed for "hands".

 

Jude Bradley
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X-Plane 12 and MSFS2020  🙂

System specs: Windows 11  Pro 64-bit, Ubuntu Linux 20.04 i7-13700KF  Gigabyte Z790 RTX-4060-Ti , 32GB RAM  1X 2TB M2 for X-Plane 12,  1x256GB SSD for OS. 1TB drive MSFS2020

Hello everyone,

I’ve got to admit I’m rather excited about this new sim. I’ve been excited since the news broke and after today’s good news I’m even more thrilled. It feels very similar to back in 2006 before FSX was released. I really hope this is going to be a true state-of-the-art flight sim with enough depth to please hard-core simmers and at the same time with the user friendliness that is needed to attract a broader audience.  

I’m wondering how they plan to appeal to a wider audience, though. Simply make the sim prettier, smoother and more user-friendly won’t do the trick, I guess. How can they attract new simmers in the long run? I guess they’ll have to implement some “game” features. But what could they be like? Here’re some ideas (or rather a wish list):

1. For the airline pilots and manager games fans: You start with one airliner and have to build up your business. Maybe you start out with some charter flights. You pay for personnel costs, airport taxes, fuel, maintenance etc. and you can then reinvest your gains in personnel, onboard services, route licences, additional aircrafts etc. Good service means higher ticket prices and a better reputation; however, it also means higher costs. A crash could bring your airline to the brink of ruin.

As soon as you have more than one airplane you don’t have to fly your planes by yourself anymore (but you still can of course). You are now able to let “other pilots” do the flying and just have to manage your flights via an in-game manager app. It’d be rather cool if the flights you’re not doing yourself would be taken over by AI planes and you could see your planes flying their assigned routes in the sim. And why not have the option to install this manager on your smart phones and tablets so you’d be able to manage your fleet at any time without actually being in the game?

To make it a bit more varied there could be some temporary additional charter missions to choose from, e.g. holiday charter flights, charter flights for a rock band on tour, flying home a seriously ill tourist without delay (to name but a few ideas). While making your experience more varied such missions would also take you to destinations you normally wouldn’t bother to fly to.   

We already had something similar with FS passenger but I’d like it to be more user-friendly, better looking, more complex and more of a real manager game.

2. For GA and chopper pilots (if we get helicopters): Fly for a small GA or heli company that does rescue flights (climbers, hikers, cows?), tourist flights (scenic flights, heli skiing) or transport flights (supplying mountain cabins with food, building materials) in a specific area. I’d love to do such missions, especially in the Alps (although I usually only fly tubeliners). Again, we already had this to some extent but those FSX missions just weren’t that gripping. As the E3 trailer suggests, there will be animated animals and people in MSFS2020, so maybe they could also animate passengers, emergency doctors or injured climbers.

3. For the more action oriented pilots and arcade gamers: participate in aerobatics contests or something like a RB Air Race championship. You could already do this in FSX if I’m not mistaken but it’d be cool to have a proper career mode for this with training, qualification, world tour etc. – something that’s a bit more motivating in the long term, where you really have a sense of achievement. 

 

Sorry for this long post but as you can see I’m quite ecstatic at the moment.

I for myself actually don’t need any of this (all I want is a proper modern sim) but such gimmicks could make the sim attractive to a new audience which apparently is what Microsoft want to achieve with this simulator.

Cheers,

Shack95

i9-11900K, RTX 4090, 32 GB ram, Honeycomb Alpha and Bravo, TCA Airbus sidestick and quadrant, Reverb G2

3 minutes ago, Superdelphinus said:

Checkout the first bullet point on a ‘vehicle artist’ job they’re advertising..

http://www.asobostudio.com/careers/vehicle-artists-84

"Working from concept models and images and turning them into fully functioning and flyable works of art – the work is both on exteriors and interiors"

Flyable.  I would have expected a different word here, driveable maybe.  The word flyable is exclusive to aircraft.

Given the kind of work ASOBO does, what we saw in the video might be just a tiny part of what will be available in the sim.  No way to know yet, but no one expected the level of detail available in Flight's Hawaii.

I figured the new sim would be a paradigm shift, but it might be even more than we realize.

Hook

Larry Hookins

 

Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;

1 minute ago, LHookins said:

I figured the new sim would be a paradigm shift, but it might be even more than we realize.

Hook

I hope that will be the case.  I'm ready for that.  P3D and XP will still be there for those who don't want to make the shift.  But, if this is not a radical shift in many ways, I'll be disappointed.

Rick Abshier

5900X | RTX 5070 Ti  OC| 64 GB@3600 | India Pale Ale

 

 

4 minutes ago, LHookins said:

"Working from concept models and images and turning them into fully functioning and flyable works of art – the work is both on exteriors and interiors"

Flyable.  I would have expected a different word here, driveable maybe.  The word flyable is exclusive to aircraft.

Given the kind of work ASOBO does, what we saw in the video might be just a tiny part of what will be available in the sim.  No way to know yet, but no one expected the level of detail available in Flight's Hawaii.

I figured the new sim would be a paradigm shift, but it might be even more than we realize.

Hook

I agree, though there is a chance it’s a translation issue. There are various other jobs in that list that require experience with azure so it seems a pretty safe bet that these guys are involved, when you put it all together. 

10 minutes ago, LHookins said:

I figured the new sim would be a paradigm shift, but it might be even more than we realize.

Hook

I guess Microsoft is bringing some "big guns" to the Flight Simulator world.

I was tempted to buy "A Plague Tale" a couple days ago, after seeing ASOBO's page I  bought it.

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Ramón.
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3 hours ago, Wobbie said:

LOl, It's like calling Windows 10 the new Windows XP,  

Because it's not? Why should we? Microsoft certainly does not recognise it as such.

Sorry, but Windows 10  IS  the new Windows XP..  :smile:

Bert

1 hour ago, Shack95 said:

Hello everyone,

I’ve got to admit I’m rather excited about this new sim...

Hi Shack,

Welcome to AVSIM and thank you for your original and interesting ideas. I am also excited (and confident) about the possibilities and potentials for the future of MS Flight Simulation. 

:smile:

Kindest regards,

Spirit Flyer

Stephen

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1 hour ago, Jude Bradley said:

Interesting if it supports VR out of the box as X-Plane does. VR in P3D leaves a lot to be desired with 3rd party product currently needed for "hands".

 

VR is the future and sims like DCS are already making incredible use of it. 

I'd be shocked if VR support isn't a part of MSFS. 

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