October 3, 20196 yr Moderator 7 minutes ago, irrics said: What doesn’t bother you at all? My reply immediately followed yours, so I thought my meaning should have been clear. What you wrote just before my reply: Quote Honestly, it’d be easier (forum wide) to stick to that if anybody actually read anything past one page. It’s unbelievably frustrating how much stuff is already addressed or discussed, but too many users generally don’t go read any of the previous pages of information. Fr. Bill AOPA Member: 07141481 AARP Member: 3209010556 Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
October 3, 20196 yr I think the 10 users who actually own a VR can wait and the dev time can be dedicated to more important stuff Lukas Dalton
October 3, 20196 yr 13 hours ago, Superdelphinus said: Yeah I like VR and want it to succeed, but even I am starting to hate it now with all the ultimatums and thread flooding. I've seen only one thread being flooded, and it was from people not wanting vr. You would have to point out the same coming from the pro vr side. I would be interested as I have not seen it yet. 13 hours ago, rjfry said: I am not a conspiracy theorist but I would be interested in if we have just gained a lot of new members VR was going nowhere then bang. Poll not going as ordained? Must be time to repudiate it, then....... We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically. Devons rig Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB / 1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe / 1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
October 3, 20196 yr 17 minutes ago, HiFlyer said: I've seen only one thread being flooded, and it was from people not wanting vr. You would have to point out the same coming from the pro vr side. I would be interested as I have not seen it yet. Poll not going as ordained? Must be time to repudiate it, then....... Thank you. I wish all saw that
October 3, 20196 yr 6 hours ago, EFConrad said: I'd love to try it, but without a solid sim in the first place, VR is just eye-candy and gamelike. How can you put those two statements in the same sentence? Edited October 3, 20196 yr by Ron Attwood The World is divided into two groups. Those who say "Give me a link" and those that provide the link. WWG1WGA
October 3, 20196 yr 15 minutes ago, Ron Attwood said: How can you put those two statements in the same sentence? Yeah, I agree, that makes no sense? So... he'll buy flight sim because of its reality, but in VR it's a game? I dont get it. But then again, I'm slow, I'm polish lol
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October 3, 20196 yr 4 minutes ago, w6kd said: I want IR, darn it. Ichthyological Reality Yeah. The World is divided into two groups. Those who say "Give me a link" and those that provide the link. WWG1WGA
October 3, 20196 yr VR and ATC. Those are not only essential functions, but much needed for VR. Without ATC it’s a crippled flight simulator in the eyes of the core simmers. Without VR it’s a crippled and dated game in the eyes of the general public.
October 4, 20196 yr 56 minutes ago, yanfeng12342000 said: Without VR it’s a crippled and dated game in the eyes of the general public. I don't think the 'General Public' give a toss about flight simming. The World is divided into two groups. Those who say "Give me a link" and those that provide the link. WWG1WGA
October 4, 20196 yr 49 minutes ago, Ron Attwood said: I don't think the 'General Public' give a toss about flight simming. It could be, but in my view it was the much maligned general public that got FSX and its predecessors above a million units sold in the first place. The general public are the people having great fun with FSX even now on Steam, even as "serious simmers" migrated to X-plane and P3D The general public I suspect will turn up for this sim as well, provided Microsoft has learned the lessons of history and doesn't let it get it turned primarily or exclusively into some sort of niche elitist thing. I keep firmly in mind that its the general public that visits the air space museum and air shows etc in droves. I believe the interest has always been there, just not in the dry, technical button-pressing variety of sim that tends to be the bread and butter of some dedicated enthusiasts. We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically. Devons rig Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB / 1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe / 1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
October 4, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, Ron Attwood said: I don't think the 'General Public' give a toss about flight simming. The general publlic has strong interest in flight simulation. They are just afraid of the complex controls. You only need to convince them it's easy to get into it even though there is a long way for perfection. That's exactly what Microsoft has been promoting their flight simulator series. But the general public's opinion is quite different this time. They show WILD interest in the new MSFS! I know this as I have observed public opinions from the net. I think Microsoft is aware of this, and it's exactly the reason why they reboot this series. So, for the sake of PR, it really should have VR in the first place.
October 4, 20196 yr Unfortunately I am stereo-blind and I doubt that VR works for me, same reason that 3D glasses won't work for me. Having Seasons is very important and I would personally put the most importance on Seasons for the variety of scenery.
October 4, 20196 yr 5 hours ago, yanfeng12342000 said: The general publlic has strong interest in flight simulation. They are just afraid of the complex controls. You only need to convince them it's easy to get into it even though there is a long way for perfection. That's exactly what Microsoft has been promoting their flight simulator series. But the general public's opinion is quite different this time. They show WILD interest in the new MSFS! I know this as I have observed public opinions from the net. I think Microsoft is aware of this, and it's exactly the reason why they reboot this series. So, for the sake of PR, it really should have VR in the first place. Speaking in the name of the general public is in the best case a bold assumption, more generally a way to reinforce cheaply what you want to demonstrate. Dominique Simming since 1981 - [email protected] GHz with 16 GB of RAM and a 1080 with 8 GB VRAM running a 27" @ 2560*1440 - Windows 10 - Warthog HOTAS - MFG pedals - MSFS Standard version with Steam
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