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Freeware volumetric clouds experimental release

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It's pure speculation and unlikely, but maybe X-Enviro hasn't been updated because Laminar has acquired them to build the new weather engine for X-Plane. That would probably the best case scenario for all of us.

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1 hour ago, Colonel X said:

It's pure speculation and unlikely, but maybe X-Enviro hasn't been updated because Laminar has acquired them to build the new weather engine for X-Plane. That would probably the best case scenario for all of us.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I would say there is more chance of Microsoft hiring Austin to fix the arcade style flight model in their new sim than there is of Austin hiring a windows only developer to build stuff for his new Apple cheese grater and iPad Pro.

Edited by mSparks

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On 7/28/2020 at 5:00 PM, Colonel X said:

 They're just all pretty bad, and I am really tired of this (after having easily spent $100+ on sky add-ons alone). You now see dozens of games with better cloud/weather depiction, and you don't even fly in these games. In X-Plane, the sky is the main environment you're in for most of the time. I just can't put up with it anymore. Nobody can fix this except for Laminar. It's ok to have freeware hobby projects, but none of these will ever cut it, as the "marriage" of terrain and sky at the horizon will never look right with X-Plane's current (current since early 2000s) band-aid sky box technology. That's also where the most promising of all, X-Enviro, fails, and it's only Laminar to blame for not providing a framework where the sky can be integrated seamlessly. I know I shouldn't be criticising freeware, nobody should. But in the context of the overall state here, I do think it's relevant and quite a few folks may feel the same.  

Exactly. I have given up as well. Just going to wait until msfs comes out and fly in that when I want realistic weather and xplane when I miss the zibo.

In the 3 years I have been on xplane I have looked everywhere for a realistic weather environment but its still behind even FSX from 2006.

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13 minutes ago, sanh said:

Exactly. I have given up as well. Just going to wait until msfs comes out and fly in that when I want realistic weather and xplane when I miss the zibo.

In the 3 years I have been on xplane I have looked everywhere for a realistic weather environment but its still behind even FSX from 2006.

Its a flight sim, teh weather will never be real, closest you may get is a fan in your face and a shower  head over your monitor.

1 hour ago, Colonel X said:

It's pure speculation and unlikely, but maybe X-Enviro hasn't been updated because Laminar has acquired them to build the new weather engine for X-Plane. That would probably the best case scenario for all of us.

You guys saved me $70US+, by buying xEnviro, describing how it worked and suffering through the most prolonged growing pains of any XP11 add-on. I stuck with SkyMaxx Pro, despite its shortcomings, but at least it was passable and was updated to fix bugs.

SMP with latest ASXP is a great combo, however with this latest ASXP it seems that finally can depict lower layer default clouds better than before. 

Alexander Colka

On 7/28/2020 at 6:00 PM, Colonel X said:

Yeah I am fully aware of the fact that my comment was unhelpful and superfluous. But then again, I am just speaking my mind. It's a culmination of the emotions I have towards X-Plane's various cloud add-ons. They're just all pretty bad, and I am really tired of this (after having easily spent $100+ on sky add-ons alone). You now see dozens of games with better cloud/weather depiction, and you don't even fly in these games. In X-Plane, the sky is the main environment you're in for most of the time. I just can't put up with it anymore. Nobody can fix this except for Laminar. It's ok to have freeware hobby projects, but none of these will ever cut it, as the "marriage" of terrain and sky at the horizon will never look right with X-Plane's current (current since early 2000s) band-aid sky box technology. That's also where the most promising of all, X-Enviro, fails, and it's only Laminar to blame for not providing a framework where the sky can be integrated seamlessly. I know I shouldn't be criticising freeware, nobody should. But in the context of the overall state here, I do think it's relevant and quite a few folks may feel the same.  

If X-Plane doesn't cut it for you, you might as well stop using it. And before you invest the next bunch of money into add-ons that will not make you happy, consider getting some actual, real world flying time instead because that's as real as it gets.

 

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Latest video using today's release. I am loving it. Can't believe it is only Alpha

 

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What can you say. It looks really bad. 

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2 hours ago, Colonel X said:

What can you say. It looks really bad. 

If you think you can do better its LGPL, so the only person you have to blame for that is yourself.

I absolutely agree you didnt do a good enough job yet. But if you try a bit harder Im sure everyone will be overjoyed.

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Such a well thought out, well presented review, @Colonel X.  You should do this professionally.

Edited by GoranM

3 hours ago, Colonel X said:

What can you say. It looks really bad. 

Have you tried it ? 

using it more often , should be a positive response for  someone who is doing this for free and that too a biology student,  not considering the limitations posed by LR.

Edited by HumptyDumpty

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3 hours ago, Colonel X said:

What can you say. It looks really bad. 

Hard to disagree, looks terrible. 

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Well sorry for just stating the obvious here. I am not doing it to insult the developer. Not at all. It's just a plain reaction to what I saw in the video. It must be possible to voice an opinion in a forum.

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