I think it won't be a true "sim" until there are some decent 3rd party planes available.

I'm just flying the Robin DR400 and the Zlin Savage Cub (both "steam gauges") and it's a great VFR experience, amazing actually 👍

Edited August 22, 20205 yr by MatthewS
changed VR to VFR

 

2 hours ago, GCBraun said:

Why FSX? Just grab FS2004. It is for sure smoother on the frames as well...

FS2004 (FS9) is just for people that like eye candy like those new clouds and silly autogen updates. The better simulator is FS2002 (FS8). FS8 allows me to run it on a Pentium 2 with Windows Millennium. FS2004 requires Windows XP and a Pentium 3.   /s

2 hours ago, iCann said:

 It appears their marketing is attracting gamers which make sense for new prospectives!

 

 

Props to Microsoft for getting a cute girl involved in flight simming, VATSIM is a complete sausage fest....

15 minutes ago, MatthewS said:

I'm just flying the Robin DR400 and the Zlin Savage Cub (both "steam gauges") and it's a great VR experience, amazing actually 👍

Are you 4 months ahead of us with VR?

2 hours ago, ahsmatt7 said:

If you want as real as it gets, get your butt out of your chair and go fly a real airplane. Problem solved. 

Stick with your 15 year old platform, or go back to fs9, or fs2002 or fs2000. Either way no one cares dude. 

 

Agreed we know this is going to get better and there are so elements that are not realistic as there are in other sims, is this a bit gamey yes but it also has some brilliant elements, good advice if it's not for you go away and leave us alone

User error

ROFL.  I'm looking for objective adjectives to describe trying to compare FSX default aircraft positively to MSFS default aircraft.  I'm having a real hard time.

so, I guess I would say that the flight dynamics are wrong differently?

the rest of it, avionics, looks, sound, performance, systems and even autopilot behavior, all advantage MSFS.  Those FSX default birds were craptacular.

seriously, get out of here with this nonsense.

2 minutes ago, ShawnG said:

Those FSX default birds were craptacular.

Lol, ‘craptacular’.

You got your objective adjective in the end, then😄

19 minutes ago, Slides said:

Are you 4 months ahead of us with VR?

Haha, I wish. No I mean VFR. 

But those upcoming HP Reverb G2 seem to be affordable "next level" for VR.

https://www.youtube.com/c/mixedrealityTV/videos

No complaints with the default AC in MSFS currently and have hopes they will only get better!

The only issue I’m having has been around since FSX and P3D with the extremely aggressive throttle setting just to get the AC moving from a standstill when taxiing!  

Sometimes I think, many new users join Avsim to troll us. Are we not tired of this topic of sim VS game? I think really at some point moderators should stop these kind of topics from poping up, is getting tired to discuss this all over again almost every few days. 

3 hours ago, IgorBR said:

If I compare default planes from FSX to default planes in MSFS2020, I have to say that FSX wins it. I do not feel like I am flying a simulator, but rather playing a game like GTA V. 

Quite an astonishing number of self-declared 'simmers' on these hallowed pages who can't wait to declare that flying in FS2020 is analogous to flying in GTA V. 

I can't eyeroll heavily enough, frankly.

For goodness' sake. Just... good GRIEF.

It's undeniably a bit more twitchy and unstable than it should be, but it's still a very good flight sim and I daresay they'll sort that issue out.

In the meantime, just back your flight controller sensitivities off a bit and enjoy it. For 60 quid, or 1 quid if you are gamepassing it, or 109 quid if you bought the super-duper version, it's undeniably one of the most fun things to have happened in Flight Simming since 2006.

Whos to say ,FSX default aircraft were "Dumbed down" to make them easier for inexperienced aviators?

1 hour ago, MatthewS said:

I think it won't be a true "sim" until there are some decent 3rd party planes available.

I'm just flying the Robin DR400 and the Zlin Savage Cub (both "steam gauges") and it's a great VFR experience, amazing actually 👍

I agree, I don't think the default planes have ever been that great in any version.  They just all have different issues in each version.  It's always been the payware planes and some really good freeware ones that really made the sim shine IMHO.  I have no problem using and enjoying the default planes when I just want to go sightseeing, but then I know I can (or eventually in this case since it's new) go fire up a high end PMDG or something when I want a serious aircraft sim experience.