To get an idea how this "could" end....sooner as expected......read my post overhere. 

I will not support this anymore. Please do note that I am having almost all other products from REX, but none of them got updated for months anymore (on another plattform). 

This one is not compiled by the MSFS SDK! So I have my doubts how this will "enhance" my sim in the next months/years "on top of what MSFS offers (after they got sorted their bugs out regarding the weather).

@rstough: Why? Please answer the two following questions:

• What EXACTLY is the benefit of your new weather force product in ADDITION to what MSFS offers out of the box (considered fully working after bugs will get sorted out)
• Is it true that this product does NOT  fully use the MSFS SDK as there is simply no SDK wich you SHOULD have used for a proper "supported" product? Simply answer the question with YES or NO

And please do not try to gt this away from AVSIM to Discord or some other place. Here plays the "sound of music" and here "we share" our information we need to get answers to our questions.

 

Marcus

Edited September 27, 20205 yr by mpo910

simple  solution is  not  to purchase  it  or  wait  till hifi  comes  out  or  stick  what msfs  has  to offer

2 hours ago, Richard Sennett said:

Hi Buddy:

Well I cant compare it to well to HIFI even though I had it in the past I always went back to REX 

I can tell you for MSFS2020 I am impressed with what REX folks have done here - way better now looks amazing its injecting proper looking weather

I tested it against stock live weather no comparison - basically I luv this program it brings what Asobo has done to new level - and the price wow couldnt believe it actually

Hope they release world wide generic airport updates that would be awesome - hopefully add some lights to them as there is none now 😞

Tim - Reed amazing job - I know they pour their hearts into this and deserve as much respect as they have for us 

I hope you stay amazed AFTER every MSFS Patch wich can "influence" REX Weather Force in a bad way as they did NOT use a MSFS SDK by finding a workaround and forcing it somehow to work. So no MSFS support on this one. And MSFS will patch every x weeks.........

Interesting approach wich did not work an other plattform.

Marcus

Edited September 27, 20205 yr by mpo910

5 hours ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

The MSFS SDK is far far far from complete, much more can accomplished in other platforms.  REX are working within the confines of the SDK, I think a more productive route (rather than bashing REX) would be to take up the SDK limits with Asobo.  
 

Many developers have issues with the current state of the MSFS SDK from PMDG to REX to many other DLC providers.
 

Good luck in getting Asobo to shift priorities.  Wait and hope the SDK gets better is the only current option.  If folks want to apply pressure and bash, the send that message to Asobo, not DLC providers.

I know many of you think it’s taboo to suggest anything negative about MSFS, but reality differs ... send the message to Asobo.

Cheers, Rob

I mostly agree on you Rob.

But REX could have waited, like HiFi, PMDG, FSLABS and probably others do, with releasing a product "without" a proper needed SDK wich does support what they need.

Instead of releasing they could have focussed on existing customers (other plattform) and make their existing products compatble with the current P3D productline overthere.

And exactly this is what I am concerned and very irritated about. Promisses came from REX and not from Asobo. Asobo did make a statement (indirect readable from Damians statement from HiFi) about these kind of products (weather = Asobo and out of the Box). A lot of customers, wich includes myself, see a strong benefit of an out of the box weather implementation, when it works as intended.

So I would like to discus this with REX and not with Asobo as REX is responsible for their products, like PMDG, FSLabs, Aerosoft, HiFi took their repsonsibillity to hold back for a while and wait till they get what they need.

REX choose tje "confusing" way as I see it.

It is not about bashing, it is about expectations wich REX raises every single time again and then let the customers back on track, instead of choosing a long term relationship.

And of course you might have other background information wich I don´t have. But this is my "bad taste" wich REX gave me over the years.....not P3D and not MSFS or Asobo.

Marcus

Edited September 27, 20205 yr by mpo910
The focus should be on who is responsible for products, wich is NOT Asobo/MSFS in this case like Rob Ainscough stated earlier in this topic

Marcus, your last sentence gives you away. Visitors like me are looking for an appraisal of the product itself, not a diatribe from a disenchanted Rex customer who does not even own the product. If you don't like Rex Simulations, please go away and tell them.

 

28 minutes ago, Reader said:

Marcus, your last sentence gives you away. Visitors like me are looking for an appraisal of the product itself, not a diatribe from a disenchanted Rex customer who does not even own the product. If you don't like Rex Simulations, please go away and tell them.

 

Well. I did use some opinion in my post, that is right. And that should be possible and I did not hide it, instead I did mention it.

You may, or may not, have another opinion. 

To an "appraising" I think also counts the support. because for products wich you pay for, a support is necessary. 

Probably other users, so others like you, and they exists, are looking for some more information about products and their long term usage, maybe some technical background, as it CAN give them a 360 degree view on the products.

I don´t have to leave a forum(ore Topic just because I posted my opinion wich is not (yet) as positive as you probably would like it to see. Or do the moderators have the same opinion like you?

But thanks for sharing your thoughts.

By imagine the following case: How could a user make a picture about a new product wich he/she does probably not own (because it has just entered the market) if other users, who bought it or bought previous ones, may not state their opinion here?

Isn´t exactly that one of the benefits on a forum like AVSIM?

I did communicate with REX, believe me. But I want others to read about experiences some customers already have made with REX products. Positive and negative ones.

And if you don´t like that kind of information, just don´t read it, jump over it but don´t ban a user like me just for having thoughts and sharing information overhere. 

Marcus

 

 

Edited September 27, 20205 yr by mpo910

Gents, clearly this product has caused a lot of debate. Can I ask that you be as objective as possible in your posts and refrain from making statements that you cannot backup with evidence. Thanks.

5 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Gents, clearly this product has caused a lot of debate. Can I ask that you be as objective as possible in your posts and refrain from making statements that you cannot backup with evidence. Thanks.

You ae right Ray, maybe I left the redline to much. Thanks for letting me share my thoughts because I think it is also needed Info for makiing "up your mind" if you are playing with the thoughts of buying a product.

what I do not like overhere in the MSFS part of AVSIM is the fact that "you get shot" if you just post not something positive. That might be placebo, I don´t really know.

But back on Topic again!

Marcus 

Edited September 27, 20205 yr by mpo910

5 hours ago, Mengy said:

I'm not understanding something so can someone please answer one simple question for me:

What does this REX weather add of value to MSFS?

I'm not trying to be snarky, it's an honest question.  I mean, default MSFS weather models weather cells around the area which can be seen and avoided and flown through, and to be honest I'm very happy with how the weather is depicted in stock MSFS.  From what I've read in this thread the REX addon instead models the weather at the point of the plane but then extends that same weather across the world?  Is this correct? 

This is how I understand it; I think rstough has finally confirmed that.

I am not blaming REX for that. Apparently it is a limitiation of MSFS outside their default live weather system. Also the weather presets in MSFS can only be set worldwide. And the default live weather system apparently cannot be accessed by 3PD due to a lack of SDK features. That probably is the reason why HIFI hasn't come up with a product so far - I guess their philosophy prevents them from releasing a product with a drawback like this.

 

So what does REX add of value to MSFS?

Firstly as far as I understand It provides weather that exactly matches the METAR at your local airport which the live weather system of MSFS only comes close to - sometimes more, sometimes less, because it is based on weather prediction models not the current METARs. So if that is more important to you than seeing different weather patterns around you, you can use Weather Force for that.

Secondly Weather Force provides dynamic weather presets. So if you don't want to use the live weather - maybe it's too bad for flying - this is a nice alternative to the default weather presets. Both the default and the REX weather presets only work worldwide but the REX weather presets at least change over time so are not so boring like the default presets.

Finally - and that would be the main attraction vor me - REX have announced that they will introduce historic weather soon. That is something completely missing from the default weather so I might be willing to take the drawback of the same weather worldwide just to get accurate historic weather for any given time and date.

 

9 hours ago, Kaan KASIM said:

because?

Because the rainbows look stupid.

Edited September 27, 20205 yr by OHN767

6 hours ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

Good luck in getting Asobo to shift priorities

Didn't they write in the last update (24th Sept. 2020) that they had moved more staff to the SDK development? cf. "The SDK team has been expanded to improve and expand the SDK functionality more quickly and to provide more thorough documentation"

 

I'm at a loss to understand why having a depiction of the realtime weather is so important to some people. I suppose each to their own, but having "it must be real" as a criterion and standard seems a bit odd as you sit in front of your computer making pretend that you're flying a plane. It seems like arguing about angels on the head of a pin to me.

17 minutes ago, Bottle said:

I'm at a loss to understand why having a depiction of the realtime weather is so important to some people. I suppose each to their own, but having "it must be real" as a criterion and standard seems a bit odd as you sit in front of your computer making pretend that you're flying a plane. It seems like arguing about angels on the head of a pin to me.

Flying on an online network like VATSIM is a good reason.  

I guess also, that if the tech exists to give you real weather depiction, why would you not want to use it.  But as, you say, to each their own.  We all use sims in different ways.  I'm in the real weather camp.  Haven't used themed weather in years

Edited September 27, 20205 yr by ErichB

Bottle, 

I think most people are aware of this, however, we do not know what areas of the SDK that they are working on.  I have no evidence of this but their priorities do not appear to be in the Utilities area at this time.

I for one, dearly want someone like Mindstar or RXP/Flight1 to step up and give us a reasonable G1000/3000/5000 or GTN750 to cure the existing woes once and for all.  The Devs mentioned are not particularly vocal about ANY progress for MSFS. I can only draw one conclusion from this and it tracks back to the SDK.  I really hope I am wrong.  

To my mind, REX, whether or not they have used the SDK they have come up with somewhat of a solution. It may please some and not please others, but at least, it is an attempt to make MSFS better.

The same applies to all the sceneries, both freeware and payware.  They are all attempting to make this sim better and some are making money from it. That may or may not be justified, depending on personal taste.

Regardless, I think people can express an opinion on the value or otherwise of a product without getting personal about other points of view, and without bashing the Developer. 

None of us really need extreme views for or against.

Regards

Tony

1 hour ago, mpo910 said:

But REX could have

I could have married Gisele Buendchen when I had the chance....I could have saved more money, and I would be living in a big mansion. Coulda whoulda shoulda....

Do you actually own Rex Weather Force and can give me an informed opinion about its merits?

________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Back to the topic at hand that constantly gets derailed, and this is directed at REX Simulations, or at anyone else who owns the product. 

1. A lot of addons are solutions in search of problems. What specific issue/problem is REX Weather Force addressing or solving?

2. I expect a weather engine to, at minimum, do the following: If I take of from airport A, I expect to see the weather accurately depicted in the sim. If the weather changes enroute, I expect that to be reflected in the sim, preferably with smooth transitions. As I'm approaching my destination airport, I expect to see accurate weather. For me, the default MSFS weather engine does this quite accurately. How does REX Weather Force improve on this?

3. My two biggest issues with the way weather is depicted in the sim are: a. at an airport the cloud ceiling seems to be very low. It's almost as if I could stand up and my head would be in the clouds. b. I suspect this is why the sim is always extremely dark when there is a thick clould cover. Does REX Weather Force solve/address these issues?

Thanks!