13 minutes ago, B777ER said:

What will be interesting is the people coming to MSFS defense now if 2 months turns into 2 years and still no FSL, PMDG, etc... Be curious as to their opinion then. After all , this is supposed to be a flight sim, not an airport/scenery only sim.

Even if after 2 years. VFR like never before and GA IFR does not count as a flight sim in its own right then, Eric? It has to have FSL and PMDG to be classed as a sim? because flying a true VFR flight or a GA IFR is just a "airport/scenery only sim" Really!

Edited October 15, 20205 yr by Nyxx

VFR simulator ? Well then get your instrument ticket and enjoy! We have hawesome moders to fulfill our instrument flying needs! 🙂

 

Edited October 15, 20205 yr by sd_flyer

7 minutes ago, B777ER said:

What will be interesting is the people coming to MSFS defense now if 2 months turns into 2 years and still no FSL, PMDG, etc... Be curious as to their opinion then. After all , this is supposed to be a flight sim, not an airport/scenery only sim

This is exactly what I remember thinking about P3D some time ago ,  as of today 2020   I thought P3D will be by now the master in command out of the box IN All Departments  after all the money that has been dumped in to it . 

1 hour ago, jabloomf1230 said:

What I don't understand is why people feel obligated to respond to these types of threads. Just resist the temptation to respond and the thread will fall off the bottom of the first page.

Hmm, let's see. Why should we answer him ?  Maybe because a forum is a place to debate and because before drawing the T word we may credit the otherwise mistaken OP of some good faith ? Who knows ?

44 minutes ago, B777ER said:

After all , this is supposed to be a flight sim, not an airport/scenery only sim.

According to your logic:  Flight Sim

NOT a Flight Sim.   

OK.  Glad we cleared that up.

Edited October 15, 20205 yr by wthomas33065

1 hour ago, mickatmian said:

Oh and I have been building computers and flight simming since the 1970's so I thought I knew what I was doing.

Mick

Out of interest what computers were you building in the 1970's, same question with flight simulators?

54 minutes ago, HighTowers said:

Once again, these posts never compare apples to apples.   How was Prepar3D Version 1.0?  How long did it take to make progress? How about xplane version 10?   How was the progress timeline?    Now we have P3D ver 5 and XP11.   Took years to make progress.  Never understand why so many think all this is fixed with the flick of a switch.   

Because as time passes by people forget what things were like in the past, to the point of kidding themselves through rose tinted glasses. 

1 hour ago, B777ER said:

What will be interesting is the people coming to MSFS defense now if 2 months turns into 2 years and still no FSL, PMDG, etc... Be curious as to their opinion then. After all , this is supposed to be a flight sim, not an airport/scenery only sim. P3D has all the planes and MSFS has better scenery. The next few years will be interesting.

Wanna take a wild guess how long it took FSL and PMDG to release planes for P3D? (Hint, more than two years)  If that's your defining criteria then P3D wasn't a flight sim for years...

Edited October 15, 20205 yr by psolk

1 hour ago, B777ER said:

What will be interesting is the people coming to MSFS defense now if 2 months turns into 2 years and still no FSL, PMDG, etc... Be curious as to their opinion then. After all , this is supposed to be a flight sim, not an airport/scenery only sim. P3D has all the planes and MSFS has better scenery. The next few years will be interesting.

of course I will.  I have never owned FSL and won't.  PMDG I put up with only because I'm weak, and they (and y'all) effectively chase away anyone else who tries to do the same aircraft.  If someone would do an aerosoft/QW level 737/777/747, I will drop PMDG like yesterday's news.  Now, if I don't have suitable mid-complexity airliners and prop-liners in a year, I'll be disappointed, sure.  On this forum, your hardcore airliner demands might be catered to, but do not for a minute imagine that what absolutely everybody wants from this is intense study level airliners and nothing else.

5 hours ago, Armchair Pilot said:

2 months later and my 172 still looks like an a320, asobo fix please!

 

That's weird.

There's something odd about my C172 cockpit too. . .Asobo please fix too!.

 

6 hours ago, rksoftware said:

At this time for me, MSFS is only a "Cessna 172 VFR simulator" and a nice scenery tool to view the earth from above by setting dev camera on and using the XBOX controller to span around.

Hopefully, it will be a good flight simulator at some point in time, but it will take a long time, I am afraid.

Now, 2 months after its release, the "simulator" has not shown any real improvements or bug fixes.

MS/ASOBO's priority is probably to get it working and released for XBOX now, and not to do improvements and bug fixes.

Did you forget to say that you will go back to your "Cartoon Sims" ?

9 minutes ago, Will Fly For Cheese said:

That's weird.

There's something odd about my C172 cockpit too. . .Asobo please fix too!.

 

Never mind the cockpit, you're about to destroy that farm

Relax, we're on the ground. Handbrake's on. The "farm" is a corner of Gatwick Cargo area.

I still can't get used to how high the cockpit of the 747 feels.

 

Edited October 15, 20205 yr by Will Fly For Cheese

6 hours ago, rksoftware said:

Now, 2 months after its release, the "simulator" has not shown any real improvements or bug fixes.

This is demonstrably false. Why should we pay attention to you when you can't be honest?