42 minutes ago, NBurgess said:

Whilst I have a great deal of sympathy with the OP's point of view, the last thing we need is yet another thread saying the same thing as countless others.

What I don't understand is why people feel obligated to respond to these types of threads. Just resist the temptation to respond and the thread will fall off the bottom of the first page.

Edited October 15, 20205 yr by jabloomf1230

Fundamentally, the sim is still roughly in the same ballpark as it was upon release.

ASOBO have added 'stuff' since then, but they haven't really addressed function.  So, find what the sim does best at the moment (GA VFR) and enjoy that for what it is because there is alot to enjoy there.  

A good acid test of progress will be when the first complex 3rd party aircraft drops in and that won't happen until the SDK is in a suitable enough state.

 

2 hours ago, Dominique_K said:

Can't you  fly from VOR to VOR and land with an ILS ? Or do an RNAV approach ? Manually and on autopilot ?

Traditional nav is fine.  RNAV (GPS or FMS) flight isn't great.  Some approaches are non existent, some IAFs are non existent.  And using direct to or activate leg is iffy at best

6 minutes ago, jabloomf1230 said:

What I don't understand is why people feel obligated to respond to these types of threads. Just resist the temptation to respond and the thread will fall off the bottom of the first page.

You realize the irony of you post...right? It’s similar to the poster who complains about complaining.  

Edited October 15, 20205 yr by kingm56

42 minutes ago, DavidP said:

You should have known anything other than glowing praise is forbidden 😁

This is not about praising or loathing, David. Heavens know that I am a staunch supporter of the freedom of speech on this forum including for the naysayers and  the OP is welcome to tell his frustration but the truth is that he or she is wrong when saying that it is  an one-plane only and VFR-only sim. Many things can be said about  MSF insufficiencies or flaws but not that. A word or two of explanation would have been nice.

In any case, I suspect that everybody throws the word VRF or IFR  without even understanding what they mean.

25 minutes ago, mickatmian said:

I have MS store version since day one running fine on similar hardware to you, up until this latest  update that is. Now 2 days later and after half a dozen goes at the update, a complete uninstall, a reinstall of a windows backup from a month ago, and several attempts at reinstall, I am finally 6hrs into a reinstall.

Oh and I have been building computers and flight simming since the 1970's so I thought I knew what I was doing.

As of now, much I like the sim, I am not the best person to give Asobo/Microsft a referance.

To others on this thread. Be a bit more tolerant of people who don't see the sim the same way you do. It is getting so people on this forum are jumped on by some of you the moment  a negative comment is posted.

Mick

Sorry to hear of your problems. Do you have the sim installed in the default location, or did you do a custom install? From reading numerous posts on numerous forums, I have come to the conclusion (I may be totally wrong) that the most problem free installations are those from the MS Store into the default location. Also, I am very reluctant to modify any of the program files right now, as I believe this just causes further instability with the sim.

Personally, I would have done a complete fresh install of the sim rather than re-installing a back up. I know it takes a long time, but at least you would know that you were starting afresh.

Just my 2 cents!

These 'everything is terrible' versus 'everything is great' threads...
 

32 minutes ago, stubbornswiss said:

Personally, I would have done a complete fresh install of the sim rather than re-installing a back up. I know it takes a long time, but at least you would know that you were starting afresh.

Yes so would I but it would not even allow a new install from scratch. 

(It was not a backup of the sim rather windows)

It was just an update to a sim that had worked from day one and there was nothing in the community folder to interfere.

There are lots of people with the same or similar problems on various forums not least on Microsoft simulator forum, but so far it has not been acknowledge by the mods on there despite this happening to a fair amount of people on this and previous updates to be a concern.

I did eventually find assistance here:  https://flightsimulator.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360016844080-Download-stuck-on-packages-Install-loop and it has been downloading for 7.5hrs and is at 55.6Gb so hopefully it will complete. But it is disappointing that the link was not provide to those of us having the problem and posting on the  Microsoft simulator forum.

Mick

Edited October 15, 20205 yr by mickatmian
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The game has its good days and its bad...

There have been and continue to be many frustrations - the 747 pitching and yawing like a drunken porpoise - offset by moments of delight, nailing a perfect approach into Nairobi with the A320 the other night for example.

However I never fail (yet) to be astonished by the sheer scale of the thing, oh I fancy seeing what xxx or yyy looks like and within a few minutes it's on your screen almost lifelike.

Two Months in....

MSFS has a good foundation and it is apparent that Asobo is committed to engaging with the the community, keeping a tracking list of issues, and releasing patches / enhancements on a regular basis. Eventually, the issues will be resolved.

Come on guys, do we really need to defend the sim at this point?

 

Edited October 15, 20205 yr by FlyBaby

Once again, these posts never compare apples to apples.   How was Prepar3D Version 1.0?  How long did it take to make progress? How about xplane version 10?   How was the progress timeline?    Now we have P3D ver 5 and XP11.   Took years to make progress.  Never understand why so many think all this is fixed with the flick of a switch.   

2 hours ago, Chock said:

So what was all that additional 1.5Gb's of Japan scenery then if that wasn't an improvement?

We all know that MSFS needs some fixes and needs a solid SDK, but we also know these are coming. The forum language filter won't let me write what your original thread post is, but I can tell you that it rhymes with Frolics.

While the post seems like a typical troll post, he's not entirely wrong. The "simulation" aspect hasn't seen any real improvement since release. Some bug fixes, but hardly anything you'd call a new feature.

Hoping for the sim-update in November to change my mind.

3 hours ago, rksoftware said:

At this time for me, MSFS is only a "Cessna 172 VFR simulator" and a nice scenery tool to view the earth from above by setting dev camera on and using the XBOX controller to span around.

Hopefully, it will be a good flight simulator at some point in time, but it will take a long time, I am afraid.

Now, 2 months after its release, the "simulator" has not shown any real improvements or bug fixes.

MS/ASOBO's priority is probably to get it working and released for XBOX now, and not to do improvements and bug fixes.

Yes, but you have all these new Orbx, Aerosoft and FSDT airports asking others to fly your Cessna into and out of and post really pretty screenshots and if you're  social media influencer, great backdrop scenery for your "content".  I mean who could possibility want for more than flying 172's into KORD? 

2 hours ago, overspeed3 said:

I guess if you just call anyone with any negative comments a "troll" and the'll just go away nicely and hide in shame,,,

What will be interesting is the people coming to MSFS defense now if 2 months turns into 2 years and still no FSL, PMDG, etc... Be curious as to their opinion then. After all , this is supposed to be a flight sim, not an airport/scenery only sim. P3D has all the planes and MSFS has better scenery. The next few years will be interesting.

Edited October 15, 20205 yr by B777ER

4 minutes ago, B777ER said:

After all , this is supposed to be a flight sim, not an airport/scenery only sim.

Do you even have MSFS?