October 21, 20205 yr Commercial Member 9 minutes ago, scotchegg said: I mean, if MS truly wanted to strangle P3D in the commercial market they’d just insist on eula enforcement or enact some other clause their contract is bound to have to repossess the commercial market. That would be a fight against LM.. good luck with that 😂 I stopped wondering about the motives, I ran out of energy.. but end results are undeniable.. S. Oficial Website: https://www.FSReborn.com Discord Channel: https://discord.gg/XC82TqvKQ3
October 21, 20205 yr The corporate history of Microsoft is full of predatory and monopolistic behaviour and tax avoidance so it's hardly a big stretch to think they would not behave ethically.
October 21, 20205 yr Microsoft don't want us the simmers. So... 13600KF - 32GB DDR4 - RTX4070 - UW1440p GSync - USB DAC/Amp - 2TB NVMe+2TB SSD - Windows 11 - Gladiator NXT EVO - 1 Gbps Fiber - MSFS 2024
October 21, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, Juliet Alpha said: Microsoft don't want us the simmers. So... They want us too $$$ - but don't mind if we jump out of the boat. They go for the majority OS=WIN11 Home, Sim=P3D5 5.3 (P3D4 and FSX for install reasons) Addons=ORBX, ASCA, AS, TOGA and tons of sceneries, aircraft MB=Gigabyte AORUS Z790 Elite AX, CPU=i13900K, Cooling=Be quiet! Pure Loop II FX GPU=KFA2 RTX3090 24 GB, RAM=64 GB DDR5-5600, HOTAS=Logitech G Saitek X52 Pro Visit my website for fixes and addons: https://sites.google.com/view/dans-p3d-mods
October 21, 20205 yr 11 minutes ago, Juliet Alpha said: Microsoft don't want us the simmers. So. This is hard to deny. It is also hard to imagine that they got their strategy so wrong, that they have limited their sales to over 1 million in less than a month. I just wish I could get things so wrong occasionally. I think their target is the xbox genre and they have sucked in so many simmers, who incidently are quite happy with what they have so far. Think potential, potential, potential. The lack of future 3PDs in MSFS may well inhibit their sales to less than 2 million and I can only guess what a financial calamity that would be. I still prefer P3D for overall excellence but, we have to face the fact that, MSFS is well ahead of the game when it comes tp scenery (accurate or not) P3D and Xplane have not, and will not, just roll over and die ... they have a development plan which may not be transparent, but it is there. Just imagine what P3D would be like with Google Earth scenery streamed, and the same applies to XPlane. My money is on both these platforms to survive and to compete with MSFS in the near future. The good thing is that the simming community will ultimately be the winners and we have a lot to look forward to in the future. Regards Tony Tony Chilcott. My System. Motherboard. ASRock Taichi X570 CPU Ryzen 9 3900x (not yet overclocked). RAM 32gb Corsair Vengeance (2x16) 3200mhz. 1 x Gigabyte Aorus GTX1080ti Extreme and a 1200watt PSU. 1 x 1tb SSD 3 x 240BG SSD and 4 x 2TB HDD OS Win 10 Pro 64bit. Simulators ... FS2004/P3Dv4.5/Xplane.DCS/Aeroflyfs2...MSFS to come for sure.
October 21, 20205 yr I have no doubt that Microsoft would "starve" some third party developers if the alternative (otherwise known as the XBox market) would be more lucrative. Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
October 21, 20205 yr Just now, Christopher Low said: I have no doubt that Microsoft would "starve" some third party developers if the alternative (otherwise known as the XBox market) would be more lucrative. The most surprising thing to me is that they haven't used the software to deny 3rd party installation and instead forced all addons thru the marketplace so they get their cut 5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW and 2 22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU, 360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next
October 21, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, simfan1983 said: it's hardly a big stretch to think they would not behave ethically. As opposed to an actual manufacturer of weapons of mass destruction...? i910900k, RTX 3090, 32GB DDR4 RAM, AW3423DW, Ruddy girt big mug of Yorkshire Tea
October 21, 20205 yr 38 minutes ago, micstatic said: The most surprising thing to me is that they haven't used the software to deny 3rd party installation and instead forced all addons thru the marketplace so they get their cut Not yet, but that may come. They can easily explain that with "compatibility reasons" and its also make sense that the SDK developement may also stagnate soon They go for mass market, mark my words. And when someday the market is saturated and its going to not get any money out they can easily pull the plug. "Bye bye streamed scenery". Edited October 21, 20205 yr by JoeFackel System: i9 [email protected] - 32 GB RAM - Aorus 1080ti --- Sim/Addons: P3D v5 + ProSim737
October 21, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, scotchegg said: As opposed to an actual manufacturer of weapons of mass destruction...? I'm not a pacifist so yes.
October 21, 20205 yr 11 minutes ago, scotchegg said: As opposed to an actual manufacturer of weapons of mass destruction...? To which MS has willingly sold its OS, office software etc. System: i9 [email protected] - 32 GB RAM - Aorus 1080ti --- Sim/Addons: P3D v5 + ProSim737
October 21, 20205 yr 53 minutes ago, scotchegg said: As opposed to an actual manufacturer of weapons of mass destruction...? 40 minutes ago, JoeFackel said: To which MS has willingly sold its OS, office software etc. Not the only one either: Quote Nonetheless, BAE Systems subsidiary Insyte, the UK's sole provider of warship command systems, has decided to standardise on Win2k (this was during the company's former incarnation as AMS). The Type 45 destroyers now being launched will run Windows for Warships: and that's not all. The attack submarine Torbay has been retrofitted with Microsoft-based command systems, and as time goes by the rest of the British submarine fleet will get the same treatment, including the Vanguard class (V class). https://www.theregister.com/2007/02/26/windows_boxes_at_sea/ Quote Much of the Royal Navy fleet uses a specialized, hardened version of Windows 2000, dubbed 'Windows for Warships' https://www.neowin.net/news/despite-what-you-may-have-read-the-royal-navys-new-flagship-doesnt-run-windows-xp/ AMD Ryzen 5800X3D; MSI RTX 3080 Ti ; 32GB Corsair 3200 MHz; ASUS VG35VQ 35" (3440 x 1440) Fulcrum One yoke; Thrustmaster TCA Captain Pack Airbus edition; MFG Crosswind rudder pedals; miniCockpit FCU; CPFlight MCP 737; Logitech FIP x3; TrackIR MSFS; Fenix A320; A2A PA-24; HPG H145; PMDG 737-600; AIG; RealTraffic; PSXTraffic; FSiPanel; REX AccuSeason Adv; FSDT GSX Pro; FS2Crew RAAS Pro; FS-ATC Chatter
October 21, 20205 yr At least the Minuteman III are not on Microsoft OS 😉https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2019/10/19/us-military-to-replace-1970s-floppy-disks-controlling-nuclear-missiles/#59ee7da6d81b System: i9 [email protected] - 32 GB RAM - Aorus 1080ti --- Sim/Addons: P3D v5 + ProSim737
October 21, 20205 yr Windows for Warships I can just see some guy at his station on board a Type 45 destroyer, bashing the keyboard in frustration as Windows Update KB123BETATestEarlyAccess word not allowed up his radar system Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
October 21, 20205 yr 3 hours ago, scotchegg said: As opposed to an actual manufacturer of weapons of mass destruction...? It really seems hard for you to respond in a normal way to what others write .... This kind of nonsense you may keep to yourself. Edited October 21, 20205 yr by GSalden 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
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