2 hours ago, Kaiii3 said:

we do our best 😉 progress with models and fde is slow, but there is some....^^

Thanks a lot Kai for your dedication! A question, did you have the chance to contact Jörg the head of MSFS in regards to AI related SDK requests? (As he encourages third party and modders to contact him just like FBW and WT)   

21 minutes ago, omarsmak30 said:

Thanks a lot Kai for your dedication! A question, did you have the chance to contact Jörg the head of MSFS in regards to AI related SDK requests? (As he encourages third party and modders to contact him just like FBW and WT)   

we did early in the development of MSFS (ALPHA/BETA) but never got any response.... When I have some more time I will try again, does he has any special mail adress or just the one posted some moths ago via twitter?

3 minutes ago, Kaiii3 said:

we did early in the development of MSFS (ALPHA/BETA) but never got any response.... When I have some more time I will try again, does he has any special mail adress or just the one posted some moths ago via twitter?

Yeah ignore that request at the beginning, he has a new email only for third parties and modders to contact him and it seems working as we saw with WT and FBW. The new email address: [email protected]. 

I think he would help as himself is also frustrated by the livery topic since it is very hard to get the permissions from airliners, especially these times as you already know (corona). 

 

Also another question for you, in the latest Dev Q&A, they have mentioned that they have already fixed several issues with flightaware, this fix will be available in sim update 3 next month (I think) and hence would it make sense to at least only offer a model and livery matching with flightaware as intermediate solution until you can sort out the offline flight plans issues due the SDK? of course given the model conversions is completed.

 

Thanks

3 hours ago, omarsmak30 said:

they have mentioned that they have already fixed several issues with flightaware

Thats great that were gonna have more live AI but the big issue is that we need to be able to edit the attributes to the AI because their roll out after landing is WAY to short and slow causing MANY go-arounds.

3 hours ago, omarsmak30 said:

I think he would help as himself is also frustrated by the livery topic since it is very hard to get the permissions from airliners, especially these times as you already know (corona). 

I thought about this and I'm curious as to what is so hard. My assumption here is that all it takes is an e-mail to marketing folks for each airline with the question. If he's not getting answers, maybe we should help him by tweeting at the airlines to gain some traction 🙂
Jorg, give me this job and I'll get you the permission! 😉

25 minutes ago, Brandon01110 said:

Thats great that were gonna have more live AI but the big issue is that we need to be able to edit the attributes to the AI because their roll out after landing is WAY to short and slow causing MANY go-arounds.

Some guys are testing there some stuff 😉

As long as people couldn't crash the planes into spectacular fireballs in videos that end up on youtube (which obviously they can't in MSFS), then as long as the quality control was there on the logos etc. so they don't look amateurish, then you think they would want the free advertising.  

If I was head of marketing for an airline and saw my rivals colours in there, I would want mine in there as well!

2 hours ago, Drumcode said:

I thought about this and I'm curious as to what is so hard. My assumption here is that all it takes is an e-mail to marketing folks for each airline with the question. If he's not getting answers, maybe we should help him by tweeting at the airlines to gain some traction 🙂
Jorg, give me this job and I'll get you the permission! 😉

I really don't think at these times airlines care about MSFS for real, I mean now every airliner is just trying to survive and I know that from friends working in Lufthansa, things don't look good.

Edited January 28, 20215 yr by omarsmak30

I don't understand what the big deal is for Airline companies to just say yes and allow MSFS to use  their liveries, it's basically just a cosmetic skin for the body of an aircraft? Why are they making it so word not allowed complicated.

2 hours ago, Kaiii3 said:

Some guys are testing there some stuff 😉

Thank goodness for that. Jorg didnt seem to react to the concern of the problem about the speed of AI so I took that the problem would not be worked on for quite a while. 

3 hours ago, bobcat999 said:

If I was head of marketing for an airline and saw my rivals colours in there, I would want mine in there as well!

Sometimes the head of marketing runs into the head of legal though unfortunately 🙂

1 hour ago, captain420 said:

I don't understand what the big deal is for Airline companies to just say yes and allow MSFS to use  their liveries, it's basically just a cosmetic skin for the body of an aircraft? Why are they making it so word not allowed complicated.

This is not only about "yes", this is also involves the legal department and paperwork and especially if airliners are public, I know this for sure since I am sort of working in similar corporate environment, even to just allow external partners to use the company's logo, there is a lengthy documented legal process for that. Hence I can foresee that many airliners just don't have the capacity to deal with this and this is the least thing they worry about as many suffering with this situation.  

Edited January 28, 20215 yr by omarsmak30

Why are liveries the holdup? Fix air traffic and have them all white or no liveries or fake liveries.Once you get the OK from lets say DELTA add in the livery and so on.

Edited January 28, 20215 yr by Bigsby

Could the liveries not be changed slightly so as not to breach copyright?  A blue and white Lyingair 737 and an orange Sleazyjet A320?  You would hardly notice.  The airlines would soon be asking for their liveries to be displayed properly 🙂

Since everyone is talking about using someone’s airline brand for AI aircraft, how come this issue never become apparent legal issue in the P3D and earlier MSFS ecosystems? Can someone clarify? Thnx 

Edited January 29, 20215 yr by Johnny19