Again, so much is how we want to present ourselves and form the community, there aren't really any right answers here (other than communities that become overly aggressive towards new users have a long track record of festering and eventually vanishing)

We are in a new era, "The king is dead, long live the king" once in a generation type stuff, this time round we are the old wise men......

18 hours ago, Pastaiolo said:

You can say what you want, doesn't make it particulary wise. It does make it 100% elitism, just like as of late we are used to on Avsim.

New people are always welcome, without new people this is all gonna end pretty soon. And we all started with nothing, no particular knowledge, no particular skills in aviation, perhaps even used to how planes behaved in movies (which aren't exactly a good representation, in general). If you don't want to deal with them, nobody is forcing you.

There is a difference between not knowing anything, but being smart about it and not knowing anything, but being dumb about it. This starts with a blatant disregard for basic othography, continues with utter inability to do even basic research on the subject before asking and culminates in the expressed expectation to receive a reply within hours.

 

18 hours ago, HighBypass said:

Just to clarify - would the be questions in the X-Plane forums, or just all the forums in general?

... from a redundant flight simmer who plays with planes in FSX:SE..

My attitude is rooted in having spent 12 years with FSX. Go figure.

 

9 hours ago, Janov said:

Asking questions is fine, but there is due diligince to be paid by the new users. I think it is rude to wade into any community, spam the most basic questions and expect to be spoonfed how things work instead of reading up and at least trying to figure out things.

...

In addition, and I may be a bit of a dinosaur in that regard, but if someone (language barrier considered) fails at the most basic levels of orthography or writing intelligible sentences...I can´t help but form a certain mental picture of that person 🤐

So much this.

 

17 hours ago, mSparks said:

Its the questions that were already answered 50 times in the thread, readme, documentation and about 5 minutes ago that sends him roaming the tinterweb pipes with a frying pan.

If I had moderator/admin rights on Discord, the channel would be a whole lot emptier.

 

6 hours ago, tonywob said:

Before you judge new users for asking a question, please think of how you'd feel entering a new community and wanting to be involved. Don't judge, it was you once. If the new user is simply trolling then that's normally fairly obvious.

Really wanting to get involved is usually done with questions that are a viable basis for a discussion and not ten seconds of furious typing and blindly hitting "Send".

On 2/3/2021 at 10:13 AM, Janov said:

I think it is important for X-Plane to wait until the novelty of MSFS has worn off a bit more so the community is receptive for news about other flightsimulators.

How is the novelty going to wear off when graphs are pointing up. They get about 20 new add-ons a week. Already up to 795 products available or in development right now. They release frequent patches and content updates. They keep users informed.  They have sold millions already and similar coming for xbox version. X Plane is taking a good old beating right now. And there's nothing but crickets!

Edited February 5, 20215 yr by Greazer

9 minutes ago, Greazer said:

They have sold millions already and similar coming for xbox version. X Plane is taking a good old beating right now. And there's nothing but crickets!

So than why are you here. This is an Xplane forum

Poh i bit

14 minutes ago, mjrhealth said:

So than why are you here. This is an Xplane forum

I am here because I am a paying customer of XP and own many awesome XP add-ons, payware and freeware. I will hold all devs accountable for their products, code and bugs.

42 minutes ago, Greazer said:

I will hold all devs accountable for their products, code and bugs.

In that case, I certainly hope you're holding Asobo accountable for the countless bugs in their product.

1 hour ago, GoranM said:

In that case, I certainly hope you're holding Asobo accountable for the countless bugs in their product.

That was certainly true on release but most have been fixed. I do not experience countless bugs? I suppose it really depends on what you define as a bug as opposed to an omission or simply something in need of improvement. Like the cockpit shadows in XP for example.

Edited February 5, 20215 yr by jarmstro

Here we go again.  You all just can't help yourselves.  Not even going to bother, because I have better things to do than engage in debates about CHOICE.

Edited February 5, 20215 yr by GoranM

4 hours ago, Greazer said:

How is the novelty going to wear off when graphs are pointing up. They get about 20 new add-ons a week. Already up to 795 products available or in development right now. They release frequent patches and content updates. They keep users informed.  They have sold millions already and similar coming for xbox version. X Plane is taking a good old beating right now. And there's nothing but crickets!

 

2 hours ago, jarmstro said:

That was certainly true on release but most have been fixed. I do not experience countless bugs? I suppose it really depends on what you define as a bug as opposed to an omission or simply something in need of improvement. Like the cockpit shadows in XP for example.

1 hour ago, GoranM said:

Here we go again.  You all just can't help yourselves.  Not even going to bother, because I have better things to do than engage in debates about CHOICE.

I'm gonna step in between your love hate triangle for a second, and try and be the voice of reason. 

To say, there is absolutely nothing wrong here, its truly fantastic, shadows, perf, flight model, scenery all verging on perfection.

This, besides performance needing (a good chunk of) work, absolutely breathtaking - truly wow material to leave any other simulator (including MSFS - at least for now) in the dust, I can never go back to 2D, If you have only ever seen 2D you cannot appreciate what I'm saying, because the best I can do is a screenshot, its like trying to explain the mono lisa to someone by showing them a picture of her left eye (identical settings to above)

This, on the other hand, is a steaming pile of words developers use to describe computers, its been an issue for like the entire duration of XP11, and we shouldn't dismiss it as OK (or mis represent it as a "cockpit shadows" problem) or stand back and forgive it as long as XP11 has life in it.

About the only way I can share how frustrating that is, is to share a video of a day in the life of an average Microsoft windows user

 

Edited February 5, 20215 yr by mSparks

4 hours ago, Greazer said:

I am here because I am a paying customer of XP and own many awesome XP add-ons, payware and freeware. I will hold all devs accountable for their products, code and bugs.

Well so am I. but I guess I am old, and actually understand that todays world loves to complain, seems to justify some peoples existence, We want it and we want it now.

6 hours ago, GoranM said:

In that case, I certainly hope you're holding Asobo accountable for the countless bugs in their product.

Good luck if you post any criticism....(The pitchfork mob will attack you)

6 hours ago, tonywob said:

Good luck if you post any criticism....(The pitchfork mob will attack you)

Nah.  They're waaaaaaay too predictable.  

 

Edited February 5, 20215 yr by GoranM

6 hours ago, tonywob said:

Good luck if you post any criticism....(The pitchfork mob will attack you)

Pitchforks? Puny weapons.  😀 If you criticise X-plane and fail to bow low to its Dear Leader may God have mercy on your soul.😂

Edited February 5, 20215 yr by jarmstro

23 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

Pitchforks? Puny weapons.  😀 If you criticise X-plane and fail to bow low to its Dear Leader may God have mercy on your soul.😂

Naah, X-Plane community is always aware of X-Plane shortcomings. It's just when trolls from MFS come here that they get rightfully spanked.

Edited February 5, 20215 yr by Murmur

Oh the gliders in MFS.... Oh what a T-R-A-S-H !

Maybe they'll do some sort of miracle to that FM, but, I seriously doubt... But it looks great, yaeah !... The Looks are Great... The feels.... Mehhhhh

 

 

 

Edited February 6, 20215 yr by jcomm