1 hour ago, GEKtheReaper said:

 

How can one already talk in a negative manner of a product that hasn't been released yet?

 

Because I've sunk more money into Aerosoft than into my 26-year old mistress, the one with the big bazookas. 😀

16 minutes ago, flyforever said:

the new simmers forget that , in the very early days, PMDG published real aircraft manuals.

Honestly, we need someone to publish 4 volume 350 page aircraft manuals. Maybe someone will start a manual development group for that purpose.

3 hours ago, Armchair Pilot said:

Its a rather sore point of conversation atm I guess, after all its been weekly teasers from them, at this point its just becoming more negative than positive publicity. I am sure most folks want a well polished release but I guess they went abit over on the marketing.

No clue what you’re talking about haha

Honestly I had no intention of going near this product, and after seeing these screenshots & video, man does it look like a cool airplane. If I can’t hold off for the PMDG long enough, I’ll probably pick this up. That’s saying something because I haven’t purchased one add-on since the sim came out.

19 minutes ago, WestAir said:

Maybe someone will start a manual development group for that purpose.

Do you know what PMDG means and what their first products were? (hint M means manuals) 🙂

PS: sorry for being off-topic.

Edited February 23, 20215 yr by RXP

2 hours ago, Adrian123 said:

Because they have been burned so many times. More often than not.

 

29 minutes ago, Ricardo41 said:

Because I've sunk more money into Aerosoft than into my 26-year old mistress, the one with the big bazookas. 😀

I boght the AS Busses and the CRJ plus a handfull of sceneries and didn't felt beeing burned at all. I think some might have different perceptions about what a product shal or shall not do. I do believe though that the launch of the first versions of the CRJ where a WIP (but so were many others releases those days). The CRJ developed a lot during the SP and patches and even the jump to the Proffessional line. The CRJ was the first (and I think the only) product that even had full PBR textures.....

Nobody pushes you to jump in at day one. Just take your time and watch what others have to report.

I only want to say that it's unfair to already judge things that aren't even released yet.

Imagine you were developing something and make an announcement about your plans and the only thing you get is scepticism and negativity. Wouldn't you ask yourselve whats wrong with those people?

2 hours ago, Adrian123 said:

Because they have been burned so many times. More often than not.

They can just wait for reviews. The complaining is more about the marketing / waiting time as it seems. Otherwise it would make no sense.

30 minutes ago, RXP said:

Do you know what PMDG means and what their first products were? (hint M means manuals) 🙂

PS: sorry for being off-topic.

😉

10 minutes ago, WestAir said:

😉

Precision Manuals Development Group.

PMDG - Bing

34 minutes ago, raymar said:

Precision Manuals Development Group.

PMDG - Bing

Guys. I know. That was literally the joke.

I winked and everything. 😄

53 minutes ago, WestAir said:

Guys. I know. That was literally the joke.

I winked and everything. 😄

Well, if you are that bored why don't you start your own thread, and then you could use your alter ego to answer you own dumb questions. 😁

25 minutes ago, raymar said:

Well, if you are that bored why don't you start your own thread, and then you could use your alter ego to answer you own dumb questions. 😁

Woah.

That was really mean, in my opinion. It was just a harmless joke. I'm sorry.

1 hour ago, WestAir said:

Guys. I know. That was literally the joke.

I winked and everything. 😄

Don't worry, I got it and thought it was funny, but evidently some people missed the fact that you basically named the company, thus rather obviously pointing out they started out doing manuals. 

Getting back to the original thread - does the video seem ok?

8 hours ago, GEKtheReaper said:

If you are unsure of the product then wait for it's release and read reviews until you are confident to buy it (or not).

The problem, as I see it, is the publicity bombardment prior to the release. The simming public has been inundated with pre-release publicity long before any release is forrthcoming.   Now, I believe that with all this hype, the simming public tends to build up an incredible (and probably largely unreasonable) expectation which leads to a sales splurge after the eventual release. This is great from the Devs point of view, but eventually leads to a lot of negativity from buyers because it may fall short of the buyers expectations. The logical extension of this is feverish forum activity, denouncing the Dev, his product and probably his ancestry and unmarried parents. 

Now I am specifically NOT denigrating an unreleased product. I have no real idea how good, or bad, it is simply because it is not here yet, but I would like to reference the build up, of over twelve months, that we endured before MSFS2020 was released.  Everyone was expecting perfection, and whilst it has proved to be, by far, the best default flight sim platform ever released, albeit with the expected bugs, and I suggest we take the time to reflect on the awful run of negativity that this platform endured. 

The point I am making is that all that hype and negativity post release, really made no significant difference in the final summation. We, the simming public, just had to endure all this largely unnecessary garbage associated with it and then buy it in bucket loads.  I think Aerosoft has learnt its lesson well and we have been/are being subjected to that same marketing ploy.  Rightly or wrongly, it has been well proven as successful and ,sadly, I do not think Aerosoft will be the last to follow this path.

A successful precedent has been set and I see no real alternative in the near future.  

Having said that, I did watch that tutorial and found it remarkably good ... clear, concise and very understandable. I actually look forward to the rest of this particular series and hope that other Devs do much the same with their future releases. However, whilst it is nice to get these videos, it would be even better to have something to practices these techniques on.

Again, MS and Asobo have set a pattern so can anyone really blame Aerosoft, or others, for following a successful plan.

Regards

Tony  

6 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

Because I've sunk more money into Aerosoft than into my 26-year old mistress, the one with the big bazookas. 😀

Not really a precise response to the question, and subjectively a very sexist reply as well.

Funny as h3ll mate. 

Tony