New CRJ video series

[himmelhorse 1,276]

3 hours ago, WestAir said:

Woah.

That was really mean, in my opinion. It was just a harmless joke. I'm sorry.

A very good reply to a not so good post.  I feel you have nothing to feel sorry about.  

Tony

[CaptainNick 575]

A Business promote it's product? How dare they!! They should be walked through the streets like Cirsei Lannister on game of thrones...whilst the sim population shouts SHAME SHAME SHAME

Edited February 24, 2021 by CaptainNick

[blueshark747 1,843]

If the CRJ is performance optimized for VR I’m buying it!

[raymar 969]

I don’t remember VR being mentioned even once in the 114+ pages of the forum dedicated to the CRJ for MSFS.  Even so, due to the level of detail I would think we can at least expect the performance in VR to be better than average. We will know in days, rather than weeks, as the say.

Ray

[IAhawkeyeDDS 158]

Does the video show where the auto-throttle click spot is?

 

 

 

 

(wink)

[Chock 17,769]

5 minutes ago, IAhawkeyeDDS said:

Does the video show where the auto-throttle click spot is?

 

 

 

 

(wink)

It's next to the Flux Capacitor, just to the right of the Warp Drive's Engage Button.

[Ricardo41 5,949]

16 hours ago, bendead said:

It's some kind of paradox...

A 25$ 737, reusing tons of MSFS assets and turbosquid model gets praises and ovations, but a CRJ which probably be under 50$, with a lot of new features and beautiful, external - cockpit model, customs sounds and more is welcome here like it's the MC Donalds of food.

It's not a paradox at all. With the 737 you know exactly what you're getting or not getting. 

Not so with Aerosoft, their pre-release hype is always miles ahead of the actual product. 

Aersoft caters to the same folks who buy OMSI. Enough said. 

(It looks like the CRJ will have wing flex, that's definitely a step forward compared to the wings on their Airbusses, which are stiffer than a you know what after a triple dose of Viagra. And I'm sure everyone remembers "Wingflex-gate").

[GEKtheReaper 364]

10 hours ago, himmelhorse said:

The problem, as I see it, is the publicity bombardment prior to the release. The simming public has been inundated with pre-release publicity long before any release is forrthcoming.   Now, I believe that with all this hype, the simming public tends to build up an incredible (and probably largely unreasonable) expectation which leads to a sales splurge after the eventual release. This is great from the Devs point of view, but eventually leads to a lot of negativity from buyers because it may fall short of the buyers expectations. The logical extension of this is feverish forum activity, denouncing the Dev, his product and probably his ancestry and unmarried parents. 

Now I am specifically NOT denigrating an unreleased product. I have no real idea how good, or bad, it is simply because it is not here yet, but I would like to reference the build up, of over twelve months, that we endured before MSFS2020 was released.  Everyone was expecting perfection, and whilst it has proved to be, by far, the best default flight sim platform ever released, albeit with the expected bugs, and I suggest we take the time to reflect on the awful run of negativity that this platform endured. 

The point I am making is that all that hype and negativity post release, really made no significant difference in the final summation. We, the simming public, just had to endure all this largely unnecessary garbage associated with it and then buy it in bucket loads.  I think Aerosoft has learnt its lesson well and we have been/are being subjected to that same marketing ploy.  Rightly or wrongly, it has been well proven as successful and ,sadly, I do not think Aerosoft will be the last to follow this path.

A successful precedent has been set and I see no real alternative in the near future.  

Having said that, I did watch that tutorial and found it remarkably good ... clear, concise and very understandable. I actually look forward to the rest of this particular series and hope that other Devs do much the same with their future releases. However, whilst it is nice to get these videos, it would be even better to have something to practices these techniques on.

Again, MS and Asobo have set a pattern so can anyone really blame Aerosoft, or others, for following a successful plan.

Regards

Tony  

 

54 minutes ago, Ricardo41 said:

It's not a paradox at all. With the 737 you know exactly what you're getting or not getting. 

Not so with Aerosoft, their pre-release hype is always miles ahead of the actual product. 

Aersoft caters to the same folks who buy OMSI. Enough said. 

(It looks like the CRJ will have wing flex, that's definitely a step forward compared to the wings on their Airbusses, which are stiffer than a you know what after a triple dose of Viagra. And I'm sure everyone remembers "Wingflex-gate").

I do understand your point and exactly thats why DEVs no longer publish AIMED release dates.

I think you do realize how often MSFS pushes updates and fixes. And I think you do know that even the one publisher (PMDG) advertised the release of the 737 way before AS did and they are now aiming for what release date (2022?). 

A aimed release date is NOT a guarantee that it will come out that date. There might be some show stoppers later in the development that push that date further and further. AFAIK the first and ever AIMED release of the CRJ was end of 2020. So tehnically we face a delay of 8 weeks up till this date. Some more weeks will still add to this delay but again, what is the problem in advertizing a product that is in development??????

[Biggles2010 343]

1 hour ago, GEKtheReaper said:

A aimed release date is NOT a guarantee that it will come out that date. There might be some show stoppers later in the development that push that date further and further. AFAIK the first and ever AIMED release of the CRJ was end of 2020. So tehnically we face a delay of 8 weeks up till this date. Some more weeks will still add to this delay but again, what is the problem in advertizing a product that is in development??????

This is Aerosoft, and a CRJ. The previous version started as a high end simulation for enthusiasts and cockpit builders, but development was slower than expected, so it was continually overtaken by new simulator versions with changes to graphics and design techniques. The version eventually launched by Aerosoft, seven years later, was rather less than the original promotion. To be fair, it has been further developed, but it has taken a long time.

However, I like the idea of proper training videos by a qualified pilot, rather than someone saying ''I think it should work like this'', and I see nothing wrong with having those videos before product launch. It's much more informative than the usual promotional video.

 

[vcarlo 529]

Time for a PRE FLIGHT WALKAROUND . Can't wait to hear some new comments on how Aerosoft disappoints their customers 😉 

 

 

[cmorg 124]

8 hours ago, IAhawkeyeDDS said:

Does the video show where the auto-throttle click spot is?

 

 

 

 

(wink)

I just had a major flashback to the X-Crafts ERJs for X-Plane.  I had completely forgotten about that and all the other little easter eggs they dropped in.

[Chock 17,769]

1 hour ago, vcarlo said:

Time for a PRE FLIGHT WALKAROUND . Can't wait to hear some new comments on how Aerosoft disappoints their customers 😉 

It's a really nice model, looks great on that video, even standing up well to close inspection. If I was going to be really picky there are a couple of things on it which aren't absolutely 100 percent correct, but you'd have to be really familiar with the exterior of the CRJ to notice them and they hardly matter, so I won't even bother to say what they are, and one of those we could actually fix ourselves with a repaint. 🙂

What will now be apparent to people unfamiliar with being that close to a CRJ however, is a problem with this thing in MSFS, and that is pushback. You can see how low down a CRJ is (you actually have to pretty much crawl on the ground to get the chock in on the mains on these things), so because of that low down fueselage, the real things use a very small towbar which has spring loaded lugs that attach either side of the nose wheel into recesses in the centre of the wheels (it's sometimes a bit of a ballache to attach it because it has to be dead-on square to have those lugs line up). That towbar extends out under the front of the nose far enough so that you can attach a conventional tug to the bar, and this is necessary because the lift-types of tugs depicted in MSFS would not clear the fuselage of the CRJ in a pushback turn, so they'll either have to add a conventional tug and bar model for pushbacks, or it's going to look completely wrong when pushing back in a turn. 🙄

That's not really too much of an issue to be honest though, because they don't get this completely right in MSFS even on the aeroplanes which do use a lift tug, with even those things crashing into the model when connecting in the sim. I am hoping add-ons such as Pushback Express will tackle this issue at some point, with the addition of conventional tug and bar models. You can see why Asobo chose the lift tugs in the sim of course, since these only need one pivot point modeled for the aeroplane connection, whereas a tug and bar pivots at the tug and with the nose gear. But hopefully this more complex, but certainly more common pushback method will be added in the sim.

You can see why you need a specific belt loader with fully retractable rails for one of these things too when you watch this video, because the belt's safety rails get very close to the port engine when you raise it up. At most service agents there's a separate sign off procedure before they'll even let you put a belt on the CRJ and the EMB-145 because of that proximity to the engine. Incidentally, we would sometimes get some engineer's steps or some such to enable look into the front of the engines on the walkaround, since you can't otherwise check the fan blades for dents from FOD ingestion. Never actually found any on a CRJ, but it could happen from a bird strike.

He's right about it being loud up at the @rse end of the CRJ when the APU is running. That's why you are supposed to wear ear defenders on the ramp lol and in fact you'd probably get a bollocking off a marshal if they saw you weren't doing so. So yeah, that model looks great. Looking forward to playing around with it. 🙂

Incidentally, for the nerds among you who like realism, you might be wondering why there are two holds, the big one at the rear and the smaller one in the belly. That's because the main bags which arrive by baggage cart typically go in the rear hold, whereas the little ones people go out to the plane with usually go in the belly hold and are delivered on the ramp to disembarking passengers instead of going onto the carousel. It's also for another reason; you can't normally carry weapons and their ammunition in the same hold of an airliner, for obvious reasons, so you would typically put the weapon in the big rear hold and the ammo in the smaller belly hold.

Because of the fact that regionals often have a lot of small carry-ons going in the belly hold, but not many big bags for the rear hold, you quite often find that CRJs actually have to carry ballast bags in the rear hold; these are sacks with 20 kgs of lead shot or similar in them, and you might need three or four of them in the back hold if there's lots of carry on luggage but not much in the rear hold.

Edited February 24, 2021 by Chock

[vcarlo 529]

Excellent points Chock !

With the exposure the CRJ is getting mainly due to thousands of new simmers to MSFS, I feel certain Bryan York will consider addressing your points with his Pushback Express.  Also something for Virtuali to look at during the new GSX development.

[Twenty6 692]

21 hours ago, GEKtheReaper said:

I only want to say that it's unfair to already judge things that aren't even released yet.

How else is it possible to judge someone other than what they've done in the past. Believe the marketing on their new product? How did that work out on the three iterations of the Airbus 320 family? I was around for the last two and don't remember their release going that well.

Why are so many people waiting for (wanting) PMDG to release anything for MSFS2020? They have as yet nothing for this new sim yet people have already judged that whatever they release will be worth it. If I had to buy one product sight unseen from either PMDG or Aerosoft I would choose PMDG without hesitation. IMO they've earned their reputation just as Aerosoft has earned theirs.

21 hours ago, GEKtheReaper said:

Imagine you were developing something and make an announcement about your plans and the only thing you get is scepticism and negativity. Wouldn't you ask yourselve whats wrong with those people?

You could if you were arrogant and every product you published had no need to be updated past v1.0. You could also ask yourself, "Did I do something to deserve the skepticism and negativity?"

I'll admit that the CRJ Professional became a good plane, but it will forever be associated with the CRJ X and the disaster that one was. And now the CRJ for MSFS2020 (or whatever they're calling it) is coming out from the same developer and same publisher. Easy to make the assumption.

[The Flight Level 2,113]

With a March release imminent, that Aerosoft forum is in a frenzy. You have “experts” in every domain possible weighing in on the CRJ from every aspect possible. A Flight Simulation forum in ecstasy!