Is the charts of Navigraph in the Jeppesen format?

I currently use Simplates X. 

27 minutes ago, Manny said:

Is the charts of Navigraph in the Jeppesen format?

I currently use Simplates X. 

They are Jeppesen charts, at least they say Jeppesen on them.

there was a thread on this forum awhile back that showed the actual count differences (procedures,ect.) between the just updated Navblue and the current Navigraph.  That is what nudged me to purchase (or try to- still working on it)

Yes, MSFS should have a complete base set but realistically I cant see them having it up to Navigraph standards.  A full and complete base package was probably never negotiated with Navblue.

Yes.

5 hours ago, Skyseek said:

Are the charts available in the sim? Or just via an external viewer.  This forum is the best!

«The charts are accessible in our suite of Charts Apps: Charts Cloud, a web app that streams charts to virtually any web-connected device, Charts iPad and Charts Android, native apps available via App Store and Google Play boasting local data caching and touch interaction, and Charts Desktop, a Windows and macOS app.»

https://navigraph.com/products/charts

I’ve been a subscriber for years. Before Navigraph I had to manually look up airport charts from various different websites. Now - all the information is available at my fingertips - whether I want to use an iPad or the desktop app (which in terms of usability is excellent by the way). Heck, sometimes I’ve even accessed charts from my web browser at work if I get an idea on an interesting approach. I can then save a flight plan which is ready for me when I come home to the sim.

When I want to do an IFR flight in MSFS I usually create the flight plan using SimBrief (which is free). Then I import it into Navigraph Charts for visualization and planning (which takes a couple of clicks). In some mods like FBW A320 and WT CJ4, there’s also the option of importing the flight plan into the aircraft’s flight management systems. After this it’s also possible to request ATC for an IFR clearance, should one choose to do so.

What also has been mentioned here is that it’s also possible to have access to Navigraph Charts in-sim in various freeware mods (e.g. the PMS50 GTN750 or the WT CJ4). I prefer to use the desktop app for that (for greater readability) but that’s just my preference.

The second reason I use Navigraph, is the service to update the FS2020 default navdata, which still is in beta.

https://forum.navigraph.com/t/navigraph-navdata-beta/133

“The primary reason why such a service exists is because users have reported that many airports, procedures, and navaids, are missing or erroneously coded in the FS2020 default navdata.

The secondary reason is that users have reported a preference to Jeppesen data because it corresponds better with the information on Jeppesen charts provided via Navigraph Charts.

Furthermore, referring back to the topic of “Unified Data” - as mentioned by Navigraph CEO Magnus Axholt in this YouTube video: Navigraph is the largest provider of navigational data in the flight simulation community and therefore it is more likely that the data in the simulator will correspond with other services in and around the flight simulation eco system if it is updated with the FS2020 Navdata Update Service from Navigraph.”

3 hours ago, amahran said:

I refuse to buy Navigraph data to replace the sim’s default Nav Data.

Simply put, if the data is incomplete, the onus is on Asobo and NavBlue to rectify the situation. Not on us users to depend on 3rd party apps and providers to resolve an issue with the core sim data.

That’s completely fine with me. It does however sound a bit like a blanket statement, with a hint of an entitled attitude. Sure, it can be wishful to think it’s up to Asobo to fix all issues with this sim. The more realistic option however is that one has to pay for complete navaid features in a sim, as well as the way a real pilot would have to subscribe to monthly updates of IFR charts. Which can be quite costly. I guess it comes down to how much one wants to invest in this hobby. Or how strong one feels that once the entry cost to MSFS is paid, one is entitled to “everything”. It would be quite easy to extrapolate such an attitude to “I refuse to pay for any third-party aircraft like the upcoming PMDG 737 - I feel entitled that Asobo/MSFS should do the job of updating all default aircraft to study-level versions.”

There is a third reason to use (and pay the monthly €8.30 yearly €74.90 fee) Navigraph services. That’s the moving map feature, which via a little application called Simlink shows the current in-sim aircraft location on the charts. 

“Jeppesen charts are geo-referenced, which means that we can show your simulator aircraft position as an icon overlaying the charts in real-time. This feature significantly increases situational awareness in the air and on the ground, especially at crowded airports. All approach charts, airport diagrams, and enhanced SID and STAR charts support moving maps. To connect your Charts software to the simulator, install the Simlink client software on your simulator computer. In addition, the dynamic and interactive enroute charts fully support moving maps.”

Edited June 1, 20215 yr by Cpt_Piett

I couldn't do without Navigraph but the fact that it's still in beta, after all this time, is a bit annoying given the monthly subscription. And separate downloads for the CRJ which are hard to find are not really acceptable imo. Everything that needs to be updated should be updated with one click.

Edited June 1, 20215 yr by jarmstro

2 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

To connect your Charts software to the simulator, install the Simlink client software on your simulator computer.

wait, the could be issue I am having.  I understood that this link thing was not required with MSFS?

14 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

Can't argue with you, it is obvious to me you never used EFB, so you don't get it. 

Correct is - I never used EFB. 

But your statement was: "I use Avliasoft EFB, buy it once and you have all the charts you need, which are developed from the SIm."

Because of that, I looked to Avliasoft webpage and into the forum to inform myself about. 

We are talking here about actual charts and navdata and a regular updated. Therefore Avliasoft incorporated the possibility for integration of Navigraph somehow in Nov/Dec last year to have this in your EFB. 

Navigraph is not a must have. And there are a lot of airports using the same procedures since years and never changed something. I guess most of the simmers are flying with the build in ATC or using the taxi guidance and do not need further data.

But flying Online can change a lot and suddenly you may notice you are missing a lot ......

 

Best regards

Unless changed you can simply signup and run it in demo mode, you only get 2 airports but you can check out all features and then decide  I couldn't live without it myself and will continue to subscribe.

If like me you have already paid for a navigraph navdata subsription in P3D having the beta in FS2020 becomes a free addon.  So seems silly not to use it even if the advantages are difficult enumerate. Charts are another matter still on the fence there but LNM has worked for me over the years - so did aivlasoft's EFB but more recently have found LNM more useful.

Bruceb

On 6/1/2021 at 10:40 AM, Manny said:

Is the charts of Navigraph in the Jeppesen format?

I currently use Simplates X. 

They are exactly the same charts supplied to professional aviation subscribers. Zero difference, except for the red “For Flight Simulation Use Only” stamped on each one.

Getting these very same charts, (without the flight sim warning, and thus legally authorized for use in actual aircraft) would cost several thousand dollars per year. 

On 6/1/2021 at 11:57 PM, stratone said:

Correct is - I never used EFB. 

But your statement was: "I use Avliasoft EFB, buy it once and you have all the charts you need, which are developed from the SIm."

Because of that, I looked to Avliasoft webpage and into the forum to inform myself about. 

We are talking here about actual charts and navdata and a regular updated. Therefore Avliasoft incorporated the possibility for integration of Navigraph somehow in Nov/Dec last year to have this in your EFB. 

Navigraph is not a must have. And there are a lot of airports using the same procedures since years and never changed something. I guess most of the simmers are flying with the build in ATC or using the taxi guidance and do not need further data.

But flying Online can change a lot and suddenly you may notice you are missing a lot ......

 

Best regards

OK, tell me one thing that you think that EFB does not give someone flying IFR using the data that is in MSFS, since that is what EFB uses when you update it's server. ? 

 

"Therefore Avliasoft incorporated the possibility for integration of Navigraph somehow in Nov/Dec last year to have this in your EFB."

Never mind if Navigraph was available as well as NavdaPro for Aivlasoft EFB since its creation more than ten years ago. The MSFS EFB version was put in line with the other sim... More misinformation or disinformation in the same thread!... This is appalling and getting worrisome to read some posts!  To state an opinion is one thing, to bully a product out of shear ignorance is another.

As for the other points, it so happens that many pilots use Aivlasoft EFB on line with no trouble at all... More... well you know what I mean.

Edited June 3, 20215 yr by Jean-Claude

I have purchased aivlasoft EFB, but never really got into it. It doesnt really offer charts, and because Navigraph offers charts both on desktop and ipad that are georeferenced, it can never really compete. Aivlasoft is an approximation of a chart, but isn't close to bring as much info as navigraph when it comes to approach plates and departures. Plus, you need navigraph to keep your aivlasoft product updated. 

Ie, the ground charts in EFB isn't based on real life, but on the bgl in your sim. So when you are getting taxi instructions on Vatsim, and your BGL taxiway names and gates doesnt match real life, EFB is useless. 

For those who prefer it, Im sure Aivlasoft EFB is a nice product. 

Edited June 3, 20215 yr by Andreas Stangenes

1 minute ago, Andreas Stangenes said:

I have purchased aivlasoft EFB, but never really got into it. It doesnt really offer charts, and because Navigraph offers charts both on desktop and ipad that are georeferenced, it can never really compete. Aivlasoft is an approximation of a chart, but isn't close to bring as much info as navigraph when it comes to approach plates and departures. Plus, you need navigraph to keep your aivlasoft product updated. 

For those who prefer it, Im sure Aivlasoft EFB is a nice product. 

I will ask again, what info can you not find on EFB that would be in a chart, and be specific? It has all departures, approaches, airways, frequencies, headings, stars, sids, Rnav, that are in the sim p[lus a moving map that shows where you are .