Oh man! Cant wait!!!

Bravo Fenix 👏 great marketing.

Lol FBW will probably be the same.

and freee!!!! 
 

Mike

36 minutes ago, cepact said:

Are you worried this new A320 will make your product less relevant ? I mean I know yours is free but anyway, simmers tend to not have problem spending money.

I can’t speak for the FBW team but let’s not forget that this is not the finished article just as the Fenix a320 isn’t and I think the FBW team are an ambitious bunch an will relish the challenge ahead.
 

I believe the FBW 32nx will always be the go to entry level aircraft into complex jetliners for all new simmers in MSFS for years to come and the reason for that is because it’s so accessible. That will always make it relevant and I will always be keen to be part of what has been a great journey watching it improve. It’s a great time for simmers and developers we don’t need to pitch them against each other too much guys.

Edited July 14, 20214 yr by Carts85

34 minutes ago, cepact said:

Are you worried this new A320 will make your product less relevant ? I mean I know yours is free but anyway, simmers tend to not have problem spending money.

That’s somewhat ungracious of you. Enthusiasts improving a default aircraft and asking nothing for it should be applauded irrespective of other offerings.

This is great news for FBW because they'll be even more motivated to produce a great A320 for free & a lot of the work done on that will be ported over to the A380 which is going to be amazing!

 

Since there is a new video thread and this one seems to have run its course by continues derailment maybe its time for a lock? no more FBW vs Fenix yada yada mess..

Edited July 14, 20214 yr by jbdbow1970

13 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

That’s somewhat ungracious of you. Enthusiasts improving a default aircraft and asking nothing for it should be applauded irrespective of other offerings.

Very ungrateful, considering the FBW and WT have both made this sim bearable in it's early existance, I am more than happy there's another version of the A320, and will likely buy the fenix version as well, but i will use both as i fully expect FBW will continue to make great strides in this hobby of ours.

Edited July 14, 20214 yr by Car147

Well, just finished a flight with the FBW and it's better at Autoland than the FENIX. I was not aware of that, it was pointed out by someone on MSFS forum but during autoland, the airbus will go to idle on it's own above the runway, retard is not a command in this case.

The pilots must program the FMS (or tune the appropriate radio aids), configure the aircraft for landing and engage the autopilot and autothrust systems in the normal fashion. The Autoland system then provide inputs to the aircraft flight controls and adjusts the engine power settings in order to maintain the required approach profile and land the aircraft safely without pilot intervention. Some systems require the pilot to reduce thrust to idle when performing autoland. The Airbus requires the pilot to move the thrust levers to the idle positon when the autocallout calls "RETARD" at 10' RA. HOWEVER, the autothrust has already reduced the thrust to idle before this point - the retard call is to remind the pilot to match the thrust levers to the demanded thrust requirement. In all cases, the pilot must select reverse thrust settings. The autopilots will be disengaged after landing to taxi clear of the runway.

Well the FBW just did that. 

3 minutes ago, bendead said:

Well, just finished a flight with the FBW and it's better at Autoland than the FENIX. I was not aware of that, it was pointed out by someone on MSFS forum but during autoland, the airbus will go to idle on it's own above the runway, retard is not a command in this case.

The pilots must program the FMS (or tune the appropriate radio aids), configure the aircraft for landing and engage the autopilot and autothrust systems in the normal fashion. The Autoland system then provide inputs to the aircraft flight controls and adjusts the engine power settings in order to maintain the required approach profile and land the aircraft safely without pilot intervention. Some systems require the pilot to reduce thrust to idle when performing autoland. The Airbus requires the pilot to move the thrust levers to the idle positon when the autocallout calls "RETARD" at 10' RA. HOWEVER, the autothrust has already reduced the thrust to idle before this point - the retard call is to remind the pilot to match the thrust levers to the demanded thrust requirement. In all cases, the pilot must select reverse thrust settings. The autopilots will be disengaged after landing to taxi clear of the runway.

Well the FBW just did that. 

I'm sorry but didn't the Fenix also go idle right at FLARE, before Amir did anything?

3 minutes ago, WestAir said:

I'm sorry but didn't the Fenix also go idle right at FLARE, before Amir did anything?

The throttle were manually moved, the blue circle on the N1

Edited July 14, 20214 yr by bendead

1 minute ago, bendead said:

The throttle were manually moved, look at N1 display

The product is in Alpha, can we give them time to finish their product before criticizing? 

let's not turn this into a FBW vs Fenix please. 

Just now, 757FO said:

The product is in Alpha, can we give them time to finish their product before criticizing? 

I know and it's not a critic at all, I just had no idea it was implemented by FBW before, and sure it will be in the Fenix in the future

55 minutes ago, bendead said:

Well, just finished a flight with the FBW and it's better at Autoland than the FENIX. I was not aware of that, it was pointed out by someone on MSFS forum but during autoland, the airbus will go to idle on it's own above the runway, retard is not a command in this case.

The pilots must program the FMS (or tune the appropriate radio aids), configure the aircraft for landing and engage the autopilot and autothrust systems in the normal fashion. The Autoland system then provide inputs to the aircraft flight controls and adjusts the engine power settings in order to maintain the required approach profile and land the aircraft safely without pilot intervention. Some systems require the pilot to reduce thrust to idle when performing autoland. The Airbus requires the pilot to move the thrust levers to the idle positon when the autocallout calls "RETARD" at 10' RA. HOWEVER, the autothrust has already reduced the thrust to idle before this point - the retard call is to remind the pilot to match the thrust levers to the demanded thrust requirement. In all cases, the pilot must select reverse thrust settings. The autopilots will be disengaged after landing to taxi clear of the runway.

Well the FBW just did that. 

Whilst I appreciate your comment - a classic case of operator error does not mean that, all of a sudden the airplane's systems are inferior or do not exist.

EDIT 2: I shouldn't be allowed to fly anything, ever.

Edited July 14, 20214 yr by Aamir

15 minutes ago, bendead said:

Well, just finished a flight with the FBW and it's better at Autoland than the FENIX. I was not aware of that, it was pointed out by someone on MSFS forum but during autoland, the airbus will go to idle on it's own above the runway, retard is not a command in this case.

One is modeling CEO and the other one is modeling NEO. There are different characters in laws from these variants, it could be that is one of them and thus, we can't compare these two always as these two model different engines types, different models and different generations.