Robert at PMDG on SU5 performance.

[webstef68 52]

26 minutes ago, DAD said:

funny discussion. well, I like what MS/Asobo delivered w/ SU5. and I am an old man, my kids would probably claim. yeah, maybe some color/satuartion tweaking but it runs so smooth and reliable, maybe I am just happy. this morning out of LAX towards DFW.... off to another thread now, have fun here

May i ask how you tweaked the colors (which parameters) ? About the Sharpening,  Yesterday i tried the opposite direction i kept sharpen=1  and smoothed out per NVIDA + AltF3, il like the result, will next try to tweek the colors a bit.

Edited July 29, 2021 by webstef68

[Joe Alferio 36]

5 minutes ago, Ridvan Celik said:

It’s the truth, if you can’t see the visual difference then something isn’t right mateyyyy

Allow me to restate, Please, please don't tell me what I can and can't see.  I'm out.

[Reader 2,021]

1 hour ago, devgrp said:

If I was Asobo, I wouldnt even bother listening to people on avsim. They dont represent to entire flightsim community and and most are a bunch of old men stuck in their ways

If you are lucky, you will be an old person one day.

It is perfectly possible to be a young person who is "stuck in their ways" and it is equally possible to be an old person and open to new ideas.

Similarly, it is equally possible for a young person to be able to see nothing but the stereotypical "old person", as it is for the old person to see only the stereotypical "young person". There are plenty of other posts apart from yours illustrating both points of view.

Both views are equally flawed, not all of us conform to stereotypes and all of us have the opportunity to make worthwhile contributions to these forums if we can find it within ourselves to do so.

[Tomaz Drnovsek 440]

2 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

As I posted the other day, MSFS is now set to the lowest common denominator, and that is what PC users will have to get used to. 

Yeah, but technically there's really no need to do that.

[Alpine Scenery 1,609]

14 minutes ago, Chock said:

Now of course there is the possibility that Asobo could add some detail draw distance sliders in there or some such, which would allow all the people who liked to move their sliders way too far over to the right in FSX and then wonder why it ran like a P.O.S. or crashed with an O.O.M. blue screen, to do the same with MSFS and then indulge in their favourite hobby of complaining about it being unstable or choppy instead of putting it on comparatively reasonable settings and getting on with, well, you know, flying around, in their flight sim. 🤣

Well, it's luckily pretty simple since the XBOX have an ID they can call. It's just an IF THEN statement, that's why the LOD annoys me. It honestly makes no sense other than they didn't want to maintain 2 separate code blocks (hmm), well there are probably interfaces and a bunch of OO junk, so there is that, but still... Basically, it can still be done by something like below...

if(Ver != Xbox){

//Allow Higher Lods
//Use old code

}

Because you have multiple developers on the project, there are "code based permissions" like private class and limited interfaces (sort of like a read only directory), so the code would likely be a few extra hundred lines (maybe a few thousand), but THEY already had the code, so it's beyond my imagination why they wanted to do this.

Again, welcome to "THE RAINMAN UPDATE", where things are the way they are because... that's just the way they are...

Edited July 29, 2021 by Alpine Scenery

[devgrp 1,233]

6 minutes ago, Reader said:

If you are lucky, you will be an old person one day.

It is perfectly possible to be a young person who is "stuck in their ways" and it is equally possible to be an old person and open to new ideas.

Similarly, it is equally possible for a young person to be able to see nothing but the stereotypical "old person", as it is for the old person to see only the stereotypical "young person". There are plenty of other posts apart from yours illustrating both points of view.

Both views are equally flawed, not all of us conform to stereotypes and all of us have the opportunity to make worthwhile contributions to these forums if we can find it within ourselves to do so.

I'm sure I'll get old, but I hope and pray I dont be grumpy and stubborn. I try to tell my parents that too. Life is too short. Like another poster said, floating roofs and missing jetways and most of the other issues are right at the bottom of anything to get upset about, especially a video game lol

[Fiorentoni 4,221]

I'm trying to get back on topic:

In the air my FPS doubled with the new update for the FBW, and I had a 50% gain for the DC-6. On the ground at payware airports it's much less (about 10-20%), but still highly welcome. If this is only the "lukewarm" version, I wonder what FPS I would have with the previous build...? Anyway I take the less dramatic culling and less visual degrade over 90 FPS any day.

[Alpine Scenery 1,609]

@DevGrp

It's all relative, to you it's a video game, to some people their building supplier just pulled their contract and lit their future plans on fire. That's not me anymore, because trying to make a living doing airports is pretty tough in this environment of certain devs flooding the market with sub-par product (though a lot of the product is also very good, but there is a lot of sub-par junk being released).

I wish MS-ASOBO would also add a country filter to the STORE, please, for god sakes this should have been added months ago.

 

Edited July 29, 2021 by Alpine Scenery

[Nyxx 6,993]

OK, I will wave my willy around....I can now pull over 100 FPS in my FI Spitfire on Ultra.

Put willy away..best place for it.........

I dont want 60FPS I dont want personly 4K, I want smooth flight, butter smooth flight, no stutters no nothing but smooth. 

I lock FPS with V-sync to 30FPS and after some tests it will stay there.

This performance update is hopefully good for people that dont have 4,000 to spend or even 2,000 or what ever. If it helps everyone get a smooth flight and 30 FPS is all that is really needed, the "headroom" above that for me is the buffer that keep PMDG DC-6, NG Fenix etc all running smoothly at 30FPS. If not i would drop my sliders..simple as that.

People simple cannot spend the cash or justfy it to fly a sim. So I hope this SU5 does help many. Its should never be an elitest thing to sim. Everyone on this Earth has a diffrent opinion on whats cheap or expensive, we all need to respect that. We can also be happy and thankfull for what we do have not what we dont have.

 

Edited July 29, 2021 by Nyxx

[Alpine Scenery 1,609]

3 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

People simple cannot spend the cast or justfy it to fly a sim. So I hope this SU5 does help many. Its should never be an elitest thing to sim. Everyone on this Earth has a diffrent option on whats cheap or expensive, we all need to respect that. We can also be happy and thankfull for what we do have not what we dont have.

 

I assure you it was completely unnecessary. The idea that it had to be nerf'd because of the XBOX version is plain and simply not true, it was a  very minor block of code to not do so (even in the worst case if everything was in an interface). This is the laziest update of all of them, again it is The Rainman Update 🙂

It was basically a guy not pasting the old code, making an extra 30 minute effort to separate the block, and then wrapping the interface with the new code ID (if then). That's it, 100% completely unnecessary. They had the interface code already from the old code, so instead he pushed everyone onto the XBOX code without a qualifying condition.

That isn't the only issue though, the bigger issue is the way they broke the SDK, which will at least in all likelihood be fixed soon (I hope).

Edited July 29, 2021 by Alpine Scenery

[jcomm 5,926]

Mine runs faster / smoother, with higher graphics settings.

I know my bottleneck is in the old GPU, so, I have set VSync and limited FPS to 30 in the sim menus.

I never see it bellow 30, wherever I go flying, with or without weather.

I do not use traffic ( of any kind ) but I have never used it before, so...

I do not own the DC6.

[Chock 17,769]

3 minutes ago, jcomm said:

I do not own the DC6.

You're missing out there, it's very nice.

[Concodroid 84]

My FPS with a 2700x and RX 570 massively improved.

 

But I noticed something interesting - as I climbed higher, parts of the ground that were extremely low resolution suddenly switched to high-res textures.

 

Could it be the sudden load on the servers from the xbox release that's causing the pop-in?

[Bobsk8 12,683]

Just now, Chock said:

You're missing out there, it's very nice.

Yup, by far the best aircraft in MSFS, despite the new blurry cockpit. 

[jcomm 5,926]

Just now, Chock said:

You're missing out there, it's very nice.

Yeah, I guess it is Chock, and your youtube ( as usual with many other addons, on various platforms, was a good hint !

I am just saving to recover from the investment in the new rig, and e able to buy a 2060, maybe a 3060, when they get to lower, more acceptable prices.