2 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

Gee, I remember in XP seeing a 747 parked on a grass strip with a 3,000 foot runway... LOL

Don't get me wrong. I'm a big advocate for MSFS. But there are some things where XP is better and which should motivate ASOBO to improve:

• tall / unfitting buildings at airports
• ground textures of airports (they look like straight out of the airport washing machine)
• lighting of airports (on 24/7, etc)

Just now, tweekz said:

Don't get me wrong. I'm a big advocate for MSFS. But there are some things where XP is better and which should motivate ASOBO to improve:

• tall / unfitting buildings at airports
• ground textures of airports (they look like straight out of the airport washing machine)
• lighting of airports (on 24/7, etc)

Think about what XP was like in it's first year, and I remember that clearly. It was a flying joke. 

@Bobsk8 and tweekz : start a pm about XP. You guys keep continuering about it …  🤔

This is the MSFS forum !

Edited September 30, 20214 yr by GSalden

2 minutes ago, GSalden said:

@Bobsk8 and tweekz : start a pm about XP. You guys keep continuering about it …  🤔

This is the MSFS forum !

I agree. tweekz is a regular on the XP forum and comes here to knock MSFS, I don't go over to that forum and knock their sim. 

After listening to this Q&A (really enjoy them - these guys are really awesome) I am more convinced that this sim needs another year. By then most of the major issues will be vastly improved, plus we will have a lot more serious airplanes to focus on. We need to be patient for another year. 

1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

I have one airport Key west, everything else is default, and it looks good. 

It certainly does look very good. I havent downloaded scenery because i feel the default is bad. I didn't download addon aircraft because I thought the default was bad.

1 hour ago, Noel said:

This I can't relate to in the slightest since the default scenery is so exquisite already.  I think it's legacy behavior from the other sims near as I can tell.

My local GA field has nothing there in MSFS. A download from Flightsim.to has filled it with buildings, signs, people and cars etc.  UK Central from Orbx adds hundreds of landmarks.  ship addons, mesh addons are no different to buying an addon aircraft for extra detail and immersion.

MSFS is superb, but even it can be im proved with addons.

32 minutes ago, RobJC said:

After listening to this Q&A (really enjoy them - these guys are really awesome) I am more convinced that this sim needs another year.

and I think that is a fair assumption and a timeframe for which most of adults on here are willing to wait, but in order to squash a ton of release annoyance and major issues popping up with each service release, they really need to get their ducks in a row with proper testing and addressing all of the bugs. This SU6,7 and 8 should hopefully bring stability and foremost conviction of the community that they are on the right track.

Edited September 30, 20214 yr by Drumcode

15 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

My local GA field has nothing there in MSFS. A download from Flightsim.to has filled it with buildings, signs, people and cars etc.  UK Central from Orbx adds hundreds of landmarks.  ship addons, mesh addons are no different to buying an addon aircraft for extra detail and immersion.

MSFS is superb, but even it can be im proved with addons.

Sure I understand if you're very familiar with a particular locale and its airport that is another story.  I bought KSBA because I lived there for 8y or so and knew the airport.  But for the vast majority of the rest of the planet I just couldn't tell what's accurate and what isn't and as I say the quality is astoundingly good, compared to where I came from which is P3D.  Plus, I was duly miffed when Orbx KSBA did not include populating the ILS freq in the G3000's Freq Tab which is nice for autoloading an ILS freq without the need to look it up, whereas 99% of default airports all include ILS freq where they exist.  I went out and immediately bought 5 airports until I learned once again the default stuff is so good there is little need for me, unless as I say I know the area well.

40 minutes ago, Noel said:

Sure I understand if you're very familiar with a particular locale and its airport that is another story.  I bought KSBA because I lived there for 8y or so and knew the airport.  But for the vast majority of the rest of the planet I just couldn't tell what's accurate and what isn't and as I say the quality is astoundingly good, compared to where I came from which is P3D.  Plus, I was duly miffed when Orbx KSBA did not include populating the ILS freq in the G3000's Freq Tab which is nice for autoloading an ILS freq without the need to look it up, whereas 99% of default airports all include ILS freq where they exist.  I went out and immediately bought 5 airports until I learned once again the default stuff is so good there is little need for me, unless as I say I know the area well.

I took my PPL exam at a small airport in Hollywood Florida, KHWO.  I was really surprised that this airport was quite close to the real thing, in MSFS. Runways, taxiways, Control Tower, buildings, all looked just about the same as I remember it. 

Edited September 30, 20214 yr by Bobsk8

19 hours ago, ryanbatcund said:

Finally!  Yes...  Routine weather is so important on aviation.

Metar has always been in the mix.  What happed in the last update was that Meteo supplemented some metars into the data delivered to MS.  The intent was to smooth out between satiations.  What is new is that Meteo will supply all the metars which they can better interpolate for lagging, missing, corrupted, ect metar station reports.  The end result, more accurate wx simulation at the actual airport.

The bummer is, as they stated, we will not get the ability to queary the sim wx for a station several hundred miles away - this is now formally a dead issue.  But if the real world metar now comes closer to the sim metar, it may be ok.

Well I've never noticed the METARs being very accurate of the sim weather, at least in the USA.  We should be able to listen to the ATIS and have that match real world METARs, and have conditions in the sim match.

1 hour ago, GSalden said:

@Bobsk8 and tweekz : start a pm about XP. You guys keep continuering about it …  🤔

This is the MSFS forum !

I understand, that's why I was pointing out some things XP does well and I'd like to see in MSFS. I think that fits in this thread which is about updates.

 

 1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

I agree. tweekz is a regular on the XP forum and comes here to knock MSFS, I don't go over to that forum and knock their sim. 

OK that one is new. 😄

23 minutes ago, ryanbatcund said:

Well I've never noticed the METARs being very accurate of the sim weather, at least in the USA.  We should be able to listen to the ATIS and have that match real world METARs, and have conditions in the sim match.

My take on that topic is that in the short term they are going to add METAR data for SU6/7, and the next few months will be the fine tuning and re-integrating of METAR and forecast data for a more robust overall WX system.  That should be really good or at least a lot better and probably even VATSIM'able in the short term. 

The longer term 'fixing/enhancing' actual visibility not just by 'adding' a fog area, but sounds like they are trying to make it procedural based on 'why' the visibility is reduced, like fog, haze. smoke, temp/dewpoint, etc.  That would be another major leap forward for the sim, IMO.

There were actually quite a bit of other major fixes for SU6 that might have flown right by people like LOD slider, night lights, ground friction, terrain, and trees (LOL), all with minimal impact.  Sounds like they might have nailed this one, or at least got it to a much-much better area.  The start of wake T, ground affect, P Factor, and a host of other aerodynamic improvements.  I like how Seb remembered a line of code from FSX from like 5 years ago and was able to tweak it...lol.  

SU6 sounds like a really major quality of life update as well as a ton of other stuff that we need right now.  Seasons, might be the next major thing, which I know is next year.  I know a lot of people still want AI traffic fixed.  Can't remember what they said about that.  Multi Monitor support is on the way also.  

Probably forgot a ton of other stuff, but I think the sim for the rest of this year and especially the next year, is really going to take off.  Jorg, Seb, and Martial (spelling?) and the team still sound really dedicated and hard core.  They are delivering at a blistering speed.

Edited September 30, 20214 yr by Jeff Nielsen

Thanks for the info.  I've not yet had time to watch it.