November 10, 20214 yr Quite a difference, it seems, but still not sure it would be worth it....... We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically. Devons rig Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB / 1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe / 1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
November 10, 20214 yr This looks very cool. Instinct tells me it's only a matter of time until Google throws a chock under someone's terms of service parade, though. /On a side note. I wonder if Austin, the dev of X-Plane, has ever approached Google for a partnership.
November 10, 20214 yr Old news 😉 https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/609837-google-map-for-mfs2020/ Pico Neo3 Link VR - Windows 11 64bit, Gigabyte Z590 Aorus Elite Mobo, i7-10700KF CPU, Gigabyte RX 9070 XT OC 16gb (AMD GPU), 32gig Corsair 3600mhz RAM, SSD x2 + M.2 SSD 1tb x1 Saitek X45 HOTAS - Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals - Logitech Flight Yoke - Homemade 3 Button & 8-directional Joystick Box, SNES Controller (used as a Button Box - Additional USB Numpad (used as a Button Box)
November 10, 20214 yr You have to be aware, that MSFS harmonizes the color between the different tiles. MSFS shows much less artefacts and color boundaries than the normal Windows map tool. Therefore, if the google map tile are not color harmonized like the Bing ones, the result will be much worse. Here are some examples, which show artefacts in google maps, which very likely make the sim looking worse than with bing based maps: Google Maps Google Maps Google Maps When doing side-by-side comparisons between google maps and bing maps lately, I also did not find google to have better aerials than bing. In fact, I have stumbled over many places, for which Bing has better colors and resolution.
November 10, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, mrueedi said: You have to be aware, that MSFS harmonizes the color between the different tiles. MSFS shows much less artefacts and color boundaries than the normal Windows map tool. Therefore, if the google map tile are not color harmonized like the Bing ones, the result will be much worse. Here are some examples, which show artefacts in google maps, which very likely make the sim looking worse than with bing based maps: Google Maps Google Maps Google Maps When doing side-by-side comparisons between google maps and bing maps lately, I also did not find google to have better aerials than bing. In fact, I have stumbled over many places, for which Bing has better colors and resolution. About the conclusion I arrived at in my verdict in the other thread. In the US and some EU countries, Google Maps is great and mostly superior. Higher quality, better colours and no green tint of roads (which I assume happened in the process of correcting all the titles to match, a blanket setting). That said, Google Maps also swings wildly in quality. Load up at Malta, load up at Auckland, load up a dozen different locations outside of US / and some of the EU and it quickly takes a dive off a cliff. Extreme quality and colour differences in the middle of popular destinations, completely unbalanced stitching of imagery and tons of separation lines. Even in some popular US spots it struggles, go to the Grand Canyon and look at how drab and and washed out everything is, Bing at least manages to make it retain some colour and saturation. So for some helicopter flying in the US, some low VFR flying in specific locations, it's an improvement but if you want consistency throughout the world, the Bing implementation is superior. [MSI MPG X870E Carbon | 9800X3D (PBO +200Mhz / -20 Offset) | Corsair 64GB DDR5 (Custom Timings) | RTX 4090 Founders Edition (Undervolted) | WD SNX 850X 4TB + 4TB | Antec Flux Pro]
November 10, 20214 yr 7 hours ago, HiFlyer said: Quite a difference, it seems, but still not sure it would be worth it....... Hi all. Thanks for posting this. Im the creator of the video in the first post, and I personally find this FS2020 mod to be truly amazing (big thanks to the mod creator of copurse, as Im not taking any credits here). Especially if you are flying in remote areas, small cities or just in the middle of nowhere, the Google textures are just so much better (in most cases). The textures are way better updated, specifically in Europe and there are areas around the world that Bing doesnt even cover - which Google does, in China, Russia etc. Regarding performance, I havent seen any difference in terms of frame rate really, although I do believe more VRAM might be used since the textures are mostly more detailed and therefore probably also larger in size. As seen in the video, here are two examples on how much better it looks in my hometown, Sweden (near Arlanda airport):
November 10, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, MarcG said: Old news 😉 https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/609837-google-map-for-mfs2020/ Even older news 😁 https://www.avsim.com/forums/forum/284-the-tileproxy-project-forum/ "That's what" - She
November 10, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Stoopy said: Even older news 😁 https://www.avsim.com/forums/forum/284-the-tileproxy-project-forum/ Wow! What was the catch? 🙂 7800X3D | 2x32 GB DDR5-6000 CL32 | RTX 5080 | Alienware OLED 34" | 1 Gbps fiber
November 10, 20214 yr 5 hours ago, YouDontKnow said: What about the performance? What about the photogrammetry? Performance is almost the same. Photogrammetry is still from Bing. Not available from GoogleMaps , yet. Intel i7-9700K - AMD 7900 XT (VRAM 20GB) - 32 Gb Ram - SSD Drive - Win10 x64 - Samsung 43" 4K TV - Quest 3 VR
November 10, 20214 yr Hi MrFuzzy. There was no catch. I used Tile Proxy for a long time with FSX and it was very good. A bit of a guddle to set up the .ini file but once that was done it worked well. Cheers...Kenny.
November 10, 20214 yr 5 hours ago, Sethos said: About the conclusion I arrived at in my verdict in the other thread. In the US and some EU countries, Google Maps is great and mostly superior. Higher quality, better colours and no green tint of roads (which I assume happened in the process of correcting all the titles to match, a blanket setting). That said, Google Maps also swings wildly in quality. Load up at Malta, load up at Auckland, load up a dozen different locations outside of US / and some of the EU and it quickly takes a dive off a cliff. Extreme quality and colour differences in the middle of popular destinations, completely unbalanced stitching of imagery and tons of separation lines. Even in some popular US spots it struggles, go to the Grand Canyon and look at how drab and and washed out everything is, Bing at least manages to make it retain some colour and saturation. So for some helicopter flying in the US, some low VFR flying in specific locations, it's an improvement but if you want consistency throughout the world, the Bing implementation is superior. Yes I'm sure it can't be better everywhere, but I have to say I am using this for S America - Colombia and Ecuador so far. There are massive cloud gaps in Bing, but the Google textures are superb in this region - few if any cloud gaps. Don't know about other areas yet. Worth it just for that, for me...
November 10, 20214 yr Also I haven't noticed colour matching to be that great in Bing especially in Europe and UK in places...
November 10, 20214 yr 9 hours ago, YouDontKnow said: What about the performance? What about the photogrammetry? Oops, sorry, went off on a tangent there!😁 4 hours ago, kenny584 said: A bit of a guddle... Before I looked at who posted that, I knew it was a fellow Scot.😊 OS: Win11 Home; Mobo: Asus TUF Gaming Z690-Plus WiFi D4; CPU: Intel i5-12400 (Alder Lake) 4.4 GHzRAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR4 64Gb (4x16GB) 3600 MHz; GPU: MSI Radeon RX 5700XT [8GB] SSD: Corsair Force MP510 (for OS); 2x 1TB & 1x 2TB Sabrent Rocket Nvme PCIe 4.0 (one for sim, two for addons)HDD: Seagate 3TB (Data); Seagate 1TB (Programs), ASUS TUF Gaming VG32VQ1B Curved 31.5" monitor, 1440p, 38Mbs ethernet Fulcrum One Yoke, Honeycomb Bravo throttle, Thrustmaster Airbus TCA sidestick & throttle, Logitech Pro pedals, Xbox wireless gamepad (1st gen)
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