November 18, 20214 yr Just now, Maxis said: Not even sure why people are up in arms .. I do not think this was supposed to be anything more than the bare unoptimized implementation for now. Expectations were told to be set low and the results reflect that. Don't see anyone up in arms, just discussing it 🙂 [MSI MPG X870E Carbon | 9800X3D (PBO +200Mhz / -20 Offset) | Corsair 64GB DDR5 (Custom Timings) | RTX 4090 Founders Edition (Undervolted) | WD SNX 850X 4TB + 4TB | Antec Flux Pro]
November 18, 20214 yr 32 minutes ago, David Mills said: I was previously getting a smooth 30FPS even with demanding scenery and graphics settings. Now, with DX12 (beta) enabled, I'm getting a choppy 20FPS. I know that Asobo said there wouldn't be any performance improvement with DX12. But they said nothing about serious performance degradation. Also, DX12 appears to provide no benefit whatever to scenery quality. Don't waste your time with DX12 Preview, it's garbage. It's just that they had a deadline to release "DX12" and make the boss happy. Like practically for every other thing. 7800X3D | 2x32 GB DDR5-6000 CL32 | RTX 5080 | Alienware OLED 34" | 1 Gbps fiber
November 18, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, Sethos said: Don't see anyone up in arms, just discussing it 🙂 Good for you.. Im sure you have seen every discussion/post on the issue right ? Edited November 18, 20214 yr by Maxis AMD Ryzen 9800X3D/ Asus ROG Strix B650E F Gaming WiFi / Asrock Taichi 9070XT / 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5 6000 / 2x ADATA XPG 8200 Pro NVME / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 / Seasonic Vertex 1000w PSU / Lian Li LanCool II Mesh Performance / Asus VG34VQL3A / Topping E70 Velvet DAC & L70 Amp /Sennheiser HD660s2 Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke + TCA Sidestick + TFRP Rudders
November 18, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: I am still updating things. Does DX 12 turn on automatically, I thought it was optional.? It’s optional and on my copy of the sim it started in DX11. TrackIr on the other hand.....
November 18, 20214 yr Not meaning to be contrary, but DX12 has significantly decreased GPU load in my relatively modest system (i7-770K no o/c, GTX 1080, 32 BG ram, 1920x1200 display). I'm locked to 30fps and GPU load is around 80% with DX11, and 50% with DX12. I don't bother tweaking my graphics settings, just leaving them at "HIGH-END". Very satisfactory, but I'm not sure why I'm seeing one thing and others something else. John Wiesenfeld KPBI | FAA PPL/SEL/IFR in a galaxy long ago and far away | VATSIM PILOT P2 i7-11700K, 32 GB DDR4 3.6 GHz, MSI RTX 3070ti, Dell 4K monitor
November 18, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: I am still updating things. Does DX 12 turn on automatically, I thought it was optional.? yes, optional in settings. CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
November 18, 20214 yr Author 9 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: I am still updating things. Does DX 12 turn on automatically, I thought it was optional.? After your sim finishes updating, you'll default to DX11 as before. You need to turn on the DX12 beta in the Graphics Options. I'll be interested in hearing your experience with performance with DX12. Edited November 18, 20214 yr by David Mills Processor: Intel i9-13900KF 5.8GHz 24-Core, Graphics Processor: Nvidia RTX 4090 24GB GDDR6, System Memory: 64GB High Performance DDR5 SDRAM 5600MHz, Operating System: Windows 11 Home Edition, Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX, LGA 1700, CPU Cooling: Corsair H100i Elite 240mm Liquid Cooling, RGB and LCD Display, Chassis Fans: Corsair Low Decibel, Addressable RGB Fans, Power Supply: Corsair HX1000i Fully Modular Ultra-Low-Noise Platinum ATX 1000 Watt, Primary Storage: 2TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, Secondary Storage: 1TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, VR Headset: Meta Quest 2, Primary Display: SONY 4K Bravia 75-inch, 2nd Display: SONY 4K Bravia 43-inch, 3rd Display: Vizio 28-inch, 1920x1080. Controller: Xbox Controller attached to PC via USB.
November 18, 20214 yr On DX11 i have average 30-35 FPS on Ultra settings DX12... Well - 8-12 FPS on takeoff, 15-22 FPS average... AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D, MSI RTX 5090, 64GB RAM 6000MHz DDR5, Tuf Gaming X870Plus, 1200W PSU English is not my first language.
November 18, 20214 yr I am flying today and I am never exiting the sim, rebooting my PC or turning it off LOL Richard i7-12700K | Noctua NH-D15S Black Version | MSI Pro Z690 - A | 32 GB DDR4 3600 | Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 | 1TB WD Blue NMVe (MSFS 2020) | 500 GB WD Black Gen 4 NVMe | 4TB WD Black Conventional | Fractal Design Torrent Case | Seasonic 1000W Gold Plus PSU | Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke | Honeycomb Throttle | Airbus Side Stick | Virpil Rudder Pedals | Sony X90K 55 Inch TV |
November 18, 20214 yr There are three outstanding issues with DirectX 12 right now: GPU utilisation is a bit lower across the board, and this can be validated by using an overlay (like MSI Afterburner). Triple buffering is broken, so if you're using V-Sync and not consistently hitting the frame rate target, it will be capped to the next lower one. Sometimes stutters related to RdrThread and CoherentGTDraw can be observed, but I cannot consistently reproduce them so far. Unless you would like to help Asobo by testing out the DirectX 12 render path, there is indeed no reason to use it right now. As they said, the current implementation is very basic and a straight port, and the fact that it works on my GPU means they have not tapped into any Direct3D feature level 12_0 elements yet. At least DirectX 11 still works fine!
November 18, 20214 yr 17 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: 1) Does DX 12 turn on automatically, 2) I thought it was optional.? 1) negative Sir. 2) affirmative Sir. AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
November 18, 20214 yr 10 minutes ago, rutra said: On DX11 i have average 30-35 FPS on Ultra settings DX12... Well - 8-12 FPS on takeoff, 15-22 FPS average... Have 50 - 60 FPS in DX12 😎 Still testing 👀 Edited November 18, 20214 yr by awf André
November 18, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, awf said: Have 50 - 60 FPS in DX12 😎 Still testing 👀 Show us Your Settings 😄 AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D, MSI RTX 5090, 64GB RAM 6000MHz DDR5, Tuf Gaming X870Plus, 1200W PSU English is not my first language.
November 18, 20214 yr 20 minutes ago, rutra said: Show us Your Settings 😄 I'm not running an AMD 😄 and 30 years of experience 🤣 and still testing...👀 and it's a combination of hardware / OS / settings, not only some simple settings in the sim 😉 (But as stated still testing, if I like it or not the memory footprint with DX12 is a bit higher compared to DX11 as expected) My guess is that this is still a preview, so optimizations and full implementation of DX12 isn't there yet .... But I don't see lower frame rates compared to DX11... Edited November 18, 20214 yr by awf André
November 18, 20214 yr Hopefully we don't end up needing a "DX12 Fixer" app................................ 😄 AMD Ryzen 9950X3D | Asrock X870E Taichi | Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 w/EK waterblock | Full Custom Loop Cooling | Corsair Dominator Titanium DDR5-6000 | Samsung & WD NVME/SSDs | Phanteks Enthoo 719 | Seasonic Vertex Gold 1200W | Keychron Q5 Max | Corsiar Scimitar Elite SE Wireless | Honeycomb Alpha and Bravo | Logitech Pro Flight Pedals | VKB Gladiator Pro NXT L&R handed | MiniCockpit MiniFCU | Alienware AW34DWF | Asus PG279Q | Win 11 Pro
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