December 21, 20214 yr It may have been explained many times before but if I opt into the beta (Steam) does it install a second copy of the sim or just update your existing install? Just asking as a full install takes about 8 hours for me. Stu i7 12700K , DDR4 64GB RAM @3600MHz, Asus Z690-Plus D4 MB, Gainward 4090 RTX Graphics, 850W Corsair PSU, Kraken AIO watercooler, Nvme 1TB ssd, 1TB ssd, 500GB ssd.
December 21, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said: I agree that was nonsense, especially as they have said SU8 will be bug fixing. I'm not sure what you're agreeing with as I can't see it.... Yes SU8 will hopefully be Bug Fixing, but IMO there needs to be more than just that especially if SU9 then reverts back to what SU5 & 7 were, that will be the proof in the pudding as to whether any lessons are being learnt as up to this point they are clearly not. Until then this Beta process is yet another example of flawed management, it may not be so obvious to you or others, but to people like me who've been around this business long enough we can see the cracks long before they become crevasses. To reiterate, I love this Sim, I want to see it grow and evolve as I love spending time in it. But I do not bury my head in the sand and pretend everything is A OK when IMO it is clearly not. Pico Neo3 Link VR - Windows 11 64bit, Gigabyte Z590 Aorus Elite Mobo, i7-10700KF CPU, Gigabyte RX 9070 XT OC 16gb (AMD GPU), 32gig Corsair 3600mhz RAM, SSD x2 + M.2 SSD 1tb x1 Saitek X45 HOTAS - Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals - Logitech Flight Yoke - Homemade 3 Button & 8-directional Joystick Box, SNES Controller (used as a Button Box - Additional USB Numpad (used as a Button Box)
December 21, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, Bunchy said: It may have been explained many times before but if I opt into the beta (Steam) does it install a second copy of the sim or just update your existing install? It's just a ~600 MB update. 7800X3D | 2x32 GB DDR5-6000 CL32 | RTX 5080 | Alienware OLED 34" | 1 Gbps fiber
December 21, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, Bunchy said: It may have been explained many times before but if I opt into the beta (Steam) does it install a second copy of the sim or just update your existing install? Just asking as a full install takes about 8 hours for me. Stu Just a small update to the sim - about 300Mb I seem to remember. Another poster said uninstalling the beta was just as simple - click on the current version and you can have broken weather again in a couple of minutes 😁 CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
December 21, 20214 yr I was hesitant to jump into the hotfix beta but I’m glad I did, no issues here. Dave Current System (Running at 4k): ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F, Ryzen 7800X3D, RTX 5090, 55" Samsung Q80T, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & Stick, Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant & Add-on, VirtualFly Ruddo+, TQ6+ and Yoko+, GoFlight MCP-PRO and EFIS, Skalarki FCU and MCDU
December 21, 20214 yr Thanks MrFuzzy, regis9 and MrBitstFlyer. I'll give it a go. Enroute to Athens (LGAV) at present........ Edited December 21, 20214 yr by Bunchy i7 12700K , DDR4 64GB RAM @3600MHz, Asus Z690-Plus D4 MB, Gainward 4090 RTX Graphics, 850W Corsair PSU, Kraken AIO watercooler, Nvme 1TB ssd, 1TB ssd, 500GB ssd.
December 21, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, MrFuzzy said: It's just a ~600 MB update. I have asked how you opt in to the Beta - but I'm still unclear on the process can you explain pls - step by step would be great 🙂 Steam user also btw New PC Ryzen 9850X3D - 32gb ddr5 6000Mhz - MSI MAG B850 Tomahawk wifi - Gigabyte wind force gaming OC 5090 - 2TB Sabrent NVMe. Old PC - Ryzen 5900x - 32gb 3600Mhz RAM - Asus Strix X570-F Motherboard - ASUS TUF OC RTX 3090 - 1TB Sabrent NVMe. AOC AGON 32" 144Hz - Honeycomb Yoke - Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog. T Flight Rudder Pedals - Trackir.
December 21, 20214 yr If you beat the dead horse, it will not be more or less dead. I understand the people are afraid to jump on the beta train in worst case to reinstall the whole load on Gigs. It's simple statistics: 90% from who installed the Beta had no problems, Enjoying the flights without the most weird bugs. Happy discussion!
December 21, 20214 yr Surely they just have to press 'go' on the full release of the beta? Technically the fix does exist, it's just sat in testing in the form of the open beta. Although, I agree with OP that I do not want to be a beta tester so I also decided not to install as I'd have no desire to spend time providing feedback. Currently circumnavigating the world in a mix of Cessna and Piper aircraft. My Default Setup; MSFS, Honeycomb Alpha, Thrustmaster Hotas X, TrackIR, Samsung Galaxy Tab, JustFlight Piper Arrow. Simworks Quest Kodiak 100. Wishlist; Honeycomb Bravo, Honeycomb Charlie. 1:400 Airline Model Collector.
December 21, 20214 yr Author 4 minutes ago, hanhamreds said: I have asked how you opt in to the Beta - but I'm still unclear on the process can you explain pls - step by step would be great 🙂 Steam user also btw And how about the procedure for the MS Store version also?
December 21, 20214 yr Author 2 minutes ago, MichaelLowl said: If you beat the dead horse, it will not be more or less dead. I understand the people are afraid to jump on the beta train in worst case to reinstall the whole load on Gigs. It's simple statistics: 90% from who installed the Beta had no problems, Enjoying the flights without the most weird bugs. Happy discussion! 90% had no problems. Where did that statistic come from ( link would be good)
December 21, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, MarcG said: whether any lessons are being learnt as up to this point they are clearly not If I may, that they have learned their lesson or not is not relevant 😉. They have not and will not because there is no lesson for them to learn. Observing the last 16 months, their plan seems to maintain a sale momentum through tightly spaced releases of updates and gamey DLC which they know cannot be but buggy. Another way of saying is that the bugs are an accepted collateral damage. Dominique Simming since 1981 - [email protected] GHz with 16 GB of RAM and a 1080 with 8 GB VRAM running a 27" @ 2560*1440 - Windows 10 - Warthog HOTAS - MFG pedals - MSFS Standard version with Steam
December 21, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, Rudiii said: Surely they just have to press 'go' on the full release of the beta? Technically the fix does exist, it's just sat in testing in the form of the open beta. Although, I agree with OP that I do not want to be a beta tester so I also decided not to install as I'd have no desire to spend time providing feedback. You do not need to spend anytime giving feedback if you do not want to, just fly 🙂 CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
December 21, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Bobsk8 said: 90% had no problems. Where did that statistic come from ( link would be good) from observing the feedback on the flightsimulator forum. For most of the participiants the named and introduced bugs have gone (like low clouds, et al.)
December 21, 20214 yr Author 4 minutes ago, Rudiii said: Surely they just have to press 'go' on the full release of the beta? Technically the fix does exist, it's just sat in testing in the form of the open beta. Although, I agree with OP that I do not want to be a beta tester so I also decided not to install as I'd have no desire to spend time providing feedback. And having been a beta tester going back many years, it isn't just a matter of getting the beta and flying around in your favorite aircraft on autopilot. You have to vary aircraft, weather conditions, controllers, and report any small hiccup you see, which requires taking many notes. It's no fun.
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