4 minutes ago, ark said:

 

The sounds were recorded from the actual C414AW that the Flysimware tech advisor owns. And to answer a sound question that I expect will come up (because it surprised me), "no, the pilot can not hear the gear move from the VC.  So good thing there are lights for that!  😀

Al

I am sure the sounds will be good, but Aerosoft said the same thing about the disaster of a Twin Otter release. (Sounds still suck)

1 hour ago, ark said:

Waiting until after the Beta stage is certainly a perfectly reasonable approach. I will just say that if you talk to anyone who owns a Flysimware product, the situation you described above with the Nextgen EMB never happens with Flysimware.

To each their own.

Al

Yeah, if their reputation is truly that good from past experiences then sure, its still a maybe. I must say....I was completely anti-Carenado from past experiences but their Seneca surprised me. I really like it and fly it as often as I do the Kodia, JF Arrows and PMDG. So, some developers can change. It looks like FlySimWare has a good reputation overall.

NextGen EMB 110 is still not worth the price listed at 30. It still sounds "off" with sounds clipping in/out, the AP tries to dive half the time, its flight model is one of the slowest but twitchiest planes I've flown. People say the JayDee mod helps but I have shelved that plane. No updates for a while besides the smallish "service pack 1" update. It only happened after several of us complained often.

Here my thoughts even though it sounds petty to me. I see the Milviz 310 and there is no price listed but....but....there are several videos of it flying around, approaches, landing, tutorial videos. There is a difference with my though process. This is opposed to the 414 videos that are typically lower resolution and darker. Maybe I am being petty but I want to see more before buying something.

The next gen emb was entirely my own fault. I watched a few reviews and it looked ok at first. Nah. BIg mistake.

 

Edited March 24, 20224 yr by Sonosusto

7 minutes ago, ark said:

 

The sounds were recorded from the actual C414AW that the Flysimware tech advisor owns. And to answer a sound question that I expect will come up (because it surprised me), "no, the pilot can not hear the gear move from the VC ( except maybe for a very slight "clunk" when it retracts if you listen really closely).  So good thing there are lights for that!  😀

Al

That is awesome. We really appreciate accurate sounds! Especially when the person making the plane has their own!

38 minutes ago, Booms said:

Agreed. I also bought the Nextgen EMB and have been disappointed in the state it was released in and still currently is.

Instances like this I want to avoid again but...here's the but....FlySimWare have a much, much better reputation so there's that at least. Their other products (the widgeon) are well rated.

5 minutes ago, espent said:

I am sure the sounds will be good, but Aerosoft said the same thing about the disaster of a Twin Otter release. (Sounds still suck)

Understand, fair enough.  I just wanted to report the process and level of effort that went into the sounds. Users will have to judge for themselves how well that process worked.

Al

29 minutes ago, Sonosusto said:

Instances like this I want to avoid again but...here's the but....FlySimWare have a much, much better reputation so there's that at least. Their other products (the widgeon) are well rated.

Hehe....you are trying to talk yourself into buying it...as are we all without blatantly admitting we're new airplane junkies and want to believe this will be the one that will rock the market. 🙂   We've been both rewarded and disappointed thus far in the aircraft that have been released, and all basically agree on what planes fall into what categories. 

In this day and age with all the access to previews/reviews, we are really spoiled in relation to the purchasing risks we had to take back in the early days of simming when we actually had physical paper magazines guiding our buying decisions, and even bought sim titles off a shelf in brick and mortar establishments (COMPUSA, Frys, etc) , LOL. 

Now its live Twitch streams, asking the streamer to show a particular feature you're interested in, and if you decide to buy, its a few clicks of the mouse and it's bought and installed on your machine.

Anyway, regarding this plane.  I've had FSW planes in the past and generally enjoyed them.  I regard them as a good dev, so I will most likely buy this one even though I rarely have to time to fly with all the beta teams I'm currently testing (and painting) for. If for nothing else to support a dev who's given me enjoyable products in the past (I had the Lear and MU2...liked them both..I may have had others...been a long time and I'm getting old LOL)

2 minutes ago, Steve Dra said:

Hehe....you are trying to talk yourself into buying it...as are we all without blatantly admitting we're new airplane junkies and want to believe this will be the one that will rock the market. 🙂   We've been both rewarded and disappointed thus far in the aircraft that have been released, and all basically agree on what planes fall into what categories. 

In this day and age with all the access to previews/reviews, we are really spoiled in relation to the purchasing risks we had to take back in the early days of simming when we actually had physical paper magazines guiding our buying decisions, and even bought sim titles off a shelf in brick and mortar establishments (COMPUSA, Frys, etc) , LOL. 

Now its live Twitch streams, asking the streamer to show a particular feature you're interested in, and if you decide to buy, its a few clicks of the mouse and it's bought and installed on your machine.

Anyway, regarding this plane.  I've had FSW planes in the past and generally enjoyed them.  I regard them as a good dev, so I will most likely buy this one even though I rarely have to time to fly with all the beta teams I'm currently testing (and painting) for. If for nothing else to support a dev who's given me enjoyable products in the past (I had the Lear and MU2...liked them both..I may have had others...been a long time and I'm getting old LOL)

Hahah! You might have me there. I seem to talk myself into buying anything. Id vs Ego. Id wins a lot.

Oh, and I still remember the days of getting everything Fry's. I got my first saitek yoke/quadrant from them.

Good to hear there are held in such high regard. I guess I regret not knowing enough about them.

I have some stick time in a 414 but that's going way back to about 1977 when I was a 15 year old student pilot.

The aircraft was owned by Gilbert Ortega, a Native American Jewelry magnate and the aircraft was based out of Gallup, NM.

I took every opportunity I could to get right seat time and got to hand fly it quite often, usually on trips from KGUP to KABQ and back. 

Marsh Aviation was a flight school and charter flight company that operated the aircraft for Mr. Ortega.

There was one memorable trip from Gallup to Las Vegas, full house in back and it was, shall we say, a very festive atmosphere back there as flights to Vegas usually are.

After we landed at Las Vegas, I was waiting around on the private ramp by the 414 and there was a stunning looking bare metal transient Boeing 707 parked nearby getting prepped for a flight.

I remember being green with envy as I watched the Captain as he walked out to that beauty. There was no livery on it, just a tail number and gleaming aluminum.

It's just one of those things that I'll never forget.

I'm really looking forward to flying this new FSW 414 as she looks like she's been given a lot of love!

No telling how many thousands of hours of hard work have been sunk into this bird.

Congrats to FSW and I hope it's a smashing success for them!

9 minutes ago, Sonosusto said:

Good to hear there are held in such high regard. I guess I regret not knowing enough about them.

They have an unofficial support forum right here at Avsim....go check out the P3d forum here:

https://www.avsim.com/forums/forum/899-flysimware-fsxp3d/

 

Well no one has to arm wrestle me into buying or not buying or show me a review video by some dude with a nasal brit accent (and I mean that in the kindest way to our valued reviewer community but for some reason they do all kinda sound the same to me save for the dulcet tones of AvAngel) 😁.   I've already seen, read and heard enough between personal experience with how FSW's prior release (Widgeon) got so much TLC and nice improvements / touches after initial release,  the video snips, sounds and many detailed screenies plus now knowing it was a labor of love from someone who owns the real thing...  I am positively optimistic and excited to be all-in on this one, looking forward to the 6PM PST Go-Live time. 

Edited March 24, 20224 yr by Stoopy

Looking forward to the release today though it won’t come until close to bedtime here so it will have to be a Friday night first flight for me.

After downloading the manual, I'm not sure what to expect.  The images on the website show gauges on the instrument panels without aging as did the pre-release videos.  But the manual shows a mix of images with aged gauges and images with pristine ones.  Personally, I would like the aircraft to look like it just came from the factory, but I seem to be in the minority on that.  Guess I'll find out how it looks after I purchase it today.  I can live with the aging as long as it's not overdone, but don't really care for it.  I remember purchasing the MILVIZ 737 and ended up not flying it because it looked it just came from an aircraft graveyard, all rusted on the inside.  

Edited March 24, 20224 yr by jfwharton

Really nice paint scheme on this one!

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I have FSW's Falcon 50 in P3D and really like the custom gauges.  I consider that FSW's hallmark.

This C414 with 3DReach doing the artwork -- well -- that is just a perfect combination if you ask me.  This could be a really great plane.

Even so it's a beta release so I'm tempering my expectations a little.

11 minutes ago, skully said:

Really nice paint scheme on this one!

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I'll offer them $39.99   😁   Do you think that will buy it?   🤠