1 minute ago, Mace said:

I'll offer them $39.99   😁   Do you think that will buy it?   🤠 

Add a couple of zeros and I think they'd be all over it! 😃

Why are people saying this is a beta release?  

On 3/24/2022 at 4:18 PM, jfwharton said:

Why are people saying this is a beta release?  

Because Flysimware announced it as a Beta release. It is a complex a/c and Flysimware seeks feedback on bugs before releasing it to stores and the MarketPlace where getting updates out to users can be a slow and frustrating process. Turnaround on updates from Flysimware's own store can be a matter of hours rather than what might be days, or worse, otherwise.

Bugs should be reported here:

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/616345-report-cessna-414aw-chancellor-issues/

Al

 

On 3/24/2022 at 4:18 PM, jfwharton said:

Why are people saying this is a beta release?  

Because it IS a beta release.   🏁

 

 

There is a list of thing they are planning to add after release. Since it is not feature complete it is almost pushing it to call it Beta. 
 

 

OK so where does it say it's a beta release on their website?  I saw before the mention of being beta but then their website changed and that is no longer mentioned.  But the link provided above states it's a beta release so I guess it doesn't matter since I can get it for $40 and Flysimware will fix things later.

 

Ok. I see on a different site that it says its a beta. I didn't see that before as most posts had their store page with the price tag. And the timer increased by an hour already? I am not sure how I people feel about beta testing and charging 40 for that.

How long will it be at this price?

 

 

They added 30min to the counter if any one is watching  

 

They added an hour to the counter.  And I found where they mention that this is a beta release only.  Still looking forward to this aircraft.

 

Yep a whole hour.   Shucks I have to get to bed, so I just hope and pray they don't sell out overnight and there will be some 414's still available for sale tomorrow. 

 

On 3/24/2022 at 5:36 PM, jfwharton said:

They added an hour to the counter.

The counter was adjusted a bit because there is currently an update to the store in progress. Unfortunately, a simple typo can require an update, and store updates take about an hour.

Al

 

On 3/24/2022 at 5:42 PM, ark said:

The counter was adjusted a bit because there is currently an update to the store in progress. Unfortunately, a simple typo can require an update, and store updates take about an hour.

Al

Please leave one for me so i can take delivery tomorrow 😁

 

45 mins. I will be eager to hear the reviews!

 

On 3/24/2022 at 4:18 PM, jfwharton said:

Why are people saying this is a beta release?  

See notes on left and right sides of developer's product page:

https://flysimware.com/website2019/flysimwares-cessna-414a-chancellor-msfs2020/#

 

 

The "Paid Beta" idea where you get the item, often at a discount, and early access and eventually get the full product at no extra cost seems a good deal to me. However with the PC6 and the Connie there have been a hardcore bunch of people very angry about the whole idea for some unfathomable reason. Maybe they are thinking because it is "beta" they should just get it for free.

 

WOW.

This is modeled very well. I was skeptical at first but the interior does look amazing...

 

On 3/24/2022 at 7:30 PM, Sonosusto said:

WOW.

This is modeled very well. I was skeptical at first but the interior does look amazing...

That's not even FSW's main thing either.  Wait til you get into the gauges / avionics / autopilot.   My sim is updating right now, but as soon as it's done........414 for me.

 

I love the depth of planes more than anything else lately but the Carenado is that only exception. Big exception.

Time to read the manual HAHA

 

On 3/24/2022 at 7:35 PM, Sonosusto said:

 

Time to read the manual HAHA

What's a manual?  Teehee!

 

On 3/24/2022 at 7:30 PM, Sonosusto said:

WOW.

This is modeled very well. I was skeptical at first but the interior does look amazing...

I am definitely intrigued 🙂 

 

The sounds video totally turned me off of this one. It sounds like really poor quality, at least in the case of the engines... FSX ish sounds. Otherwise it looks great. 

 

Taking her up for a quick flight out of Ft Lauderdale.

 

 

On 3/24/2022 at 7:57 PM, jpe828 said:

The sounds video totally turned me off of this one. It sounds like really poor quality, at least in the case of the engines... FSX ish sounds. Otherwise it looks great. 

Yes, the video sounds and textures are "meh" but it does sound good. These idling engines sound amazing. I am taxing really slow on purpose from a good buttery landing just to hear them. 🙂

 

On 3/24/2022 at 7:41 PM, ryanbatc said:

What's a manual?  Teehee!

Hey Ryan I believe you were a beta tester?, I lost my EFB. Hit the OFF/ON switch and poof!  Can’t find it nowhere.

Can you help?

-B

 

On 3/24/2022 at 8:03 PM, Sonosusto said:

Yes, the video sounds and textures are "meh" but it does sound good. These idling engines sound amazing. I am taxing really slow on purpose from a good buttery landing just to hear them. 🙂

Are you saying it sounds better in the sim than in that video?

 

 

The 402C is the first FSW airplane I purchased and loved it. Support was always excellent. I see that a beta is supposed to be released today. Interesting approach.

 

On 3/24/2022 at 8:05 PM, btacon said:

Hey Ryan I believe you were a beta tester?, I lost my EFB. Hit the OFF/ON switch and poof!  Can’t find it nowhere.

Can you help?

-B

You click on the upper part of the small triangular pilot's window to bring up the tablet, and click on the tablet's camera to hide it.

Al

 

 

On 3/24/2022 at 8:08 PM, ark said:

You click on the upper part of the small triangular pilot's window to bring up the tablet, and click on the tablet's camera hide it.

Al

 

THANKS!!!  Got it. 

 

Anyone know how to switch between nav units. I need TDS GTN750xi but I cannot figure it out and for me the manual gave no help in those two pages of pictures

TIA, 

-B

 

On 3/24/2022 at 8:24 PM, btacon said:

Anyone know how to switch between nav units. I need TDS GTN750xi but I cannot figure it out and for me the manual gave no help in those two pages of pictures

TIA, 

-B

You pick different GPS units by loading different "liveries" (versions) of the plane.

Al

 

On 3/24/2022 at 8:26 PM, ark said:

You pick different GPS units by loading different liveries of the plane.

Al

Duh..

thx again!

 

On 1/9/2022 at 9:16 AM, turbomax said:

I am well aware of that, I own many Carenados. I just don't see the top-notch texturing in the Flysimware yet, in comparison.

I did compare the Seneca V and this plane up close. Left all the graphics the same and yes, this plane to me does look better if that's what more or less concerned you.

The performance was well....to be expected. It doesn't feel like its on rails but it was still smooth. It took a bit to start it up.

The twin pms50 750 is really nice for me. Map and plan on one side and then Navigraph charts on the other.

As cool as the Carenado Seneca is (and I agree) you would love this plane, even in its beta state. I mean, just for reference, I looked under and over the plane and it does look excellent IMO. So does the Carenado but this has more depth, systems and performance to compare.

 

On 3/24/2022 at 8:07 PM, jpe828 said:

Are you saying it sounds better in the sim than in that video?

 

Yes, it does. Can anyone else chime in with the sounds if they agree?

 

On 3/24/2022 at 8:29 PM, Sonosusto said:

I did compare the Seneca V and this plane up close. Left all the graphics the same and yes, this plane to me does look better if that's what more or less concerned you.

 

Feel like Carenado has stepped up their graphics from the 170B onwards, which looks stunning (same as the C337 and Staggerwing). Seneca has worse graphics than their current releases.

 

On 3/24/2022 at 8:36 PM, Johnny Wyatt said:

Feel like Carenado has stepped up their graphics from the 170B onwards, which looks stunning (same as the C337 and Staggerwing). Seneca has worse graphics than their current releases.

I guess I wouldn't know better then. Haha

 

Ok so another king has been born.  The bar has been raised! I'm very impressed.

 

 

On 3/24/2022 at 1:43 PM, Stoopy said:

Well no one has to arm wrestle me into buying or not buying or show me a review video by some dude with a nasal brit accent (and I mean that in the kindest way to our valued reviewer community but for some reason they do all kinda sound the same to me save for the dulcet tones of AvAngel) 😁. 

We Brits do not have an accent. Its the rest of the English speaking world that does.😀 

 

On 3/24/2022 at 8:53 PM, jarmstro said:

We Brits do not have an accent. Its the rest of the English speaking world that does.😀 

That's especially not true in Torquay😅

 

On 3/24/2022 at 8:43 PM, sd_flyer said:

Ok so another king has been born.  The bar has been raised! I'm very impressed.

 

 

I agree....she's pretty nice, and will get better as the beta continues. (and I learn how to fly her)

Flew the same livery...took the same shot at KMIA's FedEx ramp.

Heck I may even look into painting a few when I get some time.

First thing I'm gonna suggest for the beta....get rid of the smudges on the windscreen!  Looks like someone let a 5 year old loose in the front after eating a candy apple!  I'd never put an aircraft in the air with a windscreen that dirty.

 

 

Normally I would just bought it but I was so badly bitten by the Twotter I'm going to hang on for a day or two until I've watched a couple of unbiased reviews.  
 

AvAngel and IntoTheBlue have earned my Trusted Reviewer status award (Copr.). Although AvAngel just absolutely loves anything that manages to stagger into the air and ITB got so carried away with excitement over the Twotter release that he didn't seem to notice the sounds.🤣

 

On 3/24/2022 at 9:06 PM, Steve Dra said:

You'll all probably already knew, but it suddenly clicked with me. This is the same plane as in the following youtube video. 

https://youtu.be/W4fShGLFhG0?t=681

 

On 3/24/2022 at 11:06 PM, bigifooti said:

You'll all probably already knew, but it suddenly clicked with me. This is the same plane as in the following youtube video. 

https://youtu.be/W4fShGLFhG0?t=681

Oh wow good catch! I'm obsessed with Christophe Jouany. One of the best Aviation filmmakers on YouTube hands down. It sucks that he got rid of her for a Piper Cheyenne though.

 

On 3/24/2022 at 9:06 PM, Steve Dra said:

get rid of the smudges on the windscreen!  Looks like someone let a 5 year old loose in the front after eating a candy apple!  I'd never put an aircraft in the air with a windscreen that dirty.

could'nt agree more. are they all like that or only certain liveries? this would be even more annoying in VR. I always kept a bottle of window cleaning spray in my airplane and would wipe the window clean during refueling. after each and every landing.

 

Awesome airplane !! The one thing I say could be tweaked is the flight model. The entire flight model feels very very twitchy. It’s almost like the airplane needs to feel like it has more mass. 

I noticed it particularly in the vertical axis while in the flare. Any movement at all on the yoke causes big changes in that axis in the flare when it should feel heavier especially at slow speeds. 

I have lowered my sensitivity a lot on everything but all axis’s could use a little bit more weight.

 

On 3/25/2022 at 3:04 AM, fakeflyer737 said:

Awesome airplane !! The one thing I say could be tweaked is the flight model. The entire flight model feels very very twitchy. It’s almost like the airplane needs to feel like it has more mass. 

I noticed it particularly in the vertical axis while in the flare. Any movement at all on the yoke causes big changes in that axis in the flare when it should feel heavier especially at slow speeds. 

I have lowered my sensitivity a lot on everything but all axis’s could use a little bit more weight.

How do you know? Piloted one yourself?

 

I read something about stall speed being off. Have someone tested that with different flaps settings?

 

On 3/24/2022 at 11:06 PM, bigifooti said:

You'll all probably already knew, but it suddenly clicked with me. This is the same plane as in the following youtube video. 

https://youtu.be/W4fShGLFhG0?t=681

True story, I had the chance to buy this airplane 3.5 years ago when he was selling it. Went back and forth with Christophe a bunch on it. Really nice guy. 
 

Couldn’t really find a hangar in my area that would work, so ended up with a baron instead. Beautiful bird. Lots of detail went into his updates, specifically the lighting.

Will definitely be picking up the beta!

 

On 3/25/2022 at 3:36 AM, Johnny Wyatt said:

How do you know? Piloted one yourself?

Never flown a 414 no but there is no way this thing is this twitchy at slow speed and dirty. 
 

I fly the DA40 IRL and it uses push rods for the elevator and ailerons and feels like a sports car compared to Cessna singles I’ve flown. The 414 feels lighter than anything I’ve ever flown and there is just no way you can pitch up 8 degrees in half a second when you’re a Vmc like the mod does. I highly doubt the real thing does that. I needs to feel heavier. 

 

On 3/25/2022 at 3:04 AM, fakeflyer737 said:

Awesome airplane !! The one thing I say could be tweaked is the flight model. The entire flight model feels very very twitchy. It’s almost like the airplane needs to feel like it has more mass. 

I noticed it particularly in the vertical axis while in the flare. Any movement at all on the yoke causes big changes in that axis in the flare when it should feel heavier especially at slow speeds. 

I have lowered my sensitivity a lot on everything but all axis’s could use a little bit more weight.

Oh hi fakeflyer737 Post this here please so we can go over all reports over the next 2-3 weeks. i can simply increase the pitch stability. We are already going to be looking into the pitch and power as it causes an issue for the autopilot PID.

 

 

deleted...wrong forum

 

 

Glad to hear lots of positive things about Flysimware. I don't mind it's being released as a beta, as long as it gets patched/updated and not abandoned. Will wait another day or two before I decide (need some reviews).

 

 

In German but finally a video!

 

 

 

On 3/25/2022 at 6:16 AM, 6297J said:

In German but finally a video!

 

 

First something and Test Flight hehe!  I think I was studying women instead of German in college lmao

 

On 3/25/2022 at 6:22 AM, ryanbatc said:

First something and Test Flight hehe!  I think I was studying women instead of German in college lmao

"Eindruck" = "Impression" (literally, actually: "Ein"="In", "Druck"="Pressure"). Hope you made some Eindruck on the ladies back then!

 

On 3/25/2022 at 6:27 AM, Fiorentoni said:

"Eindruck" = "Impression" (literally, actually: "Ein"="In", "Druck"="Pressure"). Hope you made some Eindruck on the ladies back then!

Hehe thanks...  I did end up marrying one 😉

 

On 3/24/2022 at 8:55 PM, scotchegg said:

That's especially not true in Torquay😅

Hey, I spent my first six months here thinking that the local accent was remarkably similar to Brummie. Then I realised there's a lot of Brummies living down here. And in my (very specific) part of town it all sounds a bit Sarfend.

That aside, I just bought this plane simply based on the looks of the modelling. It's one of those aircraft I personally find real fugly, but the modelling impressed me hugely. I just hope I can still ctrl-e my way around in it. I know that's considered sacrilege by a lot of folks but I just want to get in the air and go look around. You could replace pretty much all those dials with Mickey Mouse alarm clocks as far as I care <grin>. In fact, that might make for an interesting mod . . .

 

On 3/25/2022 at 6:58 AM, andy1252 said:

Hey, I spent my first six months here thinking that the local accent was remarkably similar to Brummie. Then I realised there's a lot of Brummies living down here. And in my (very specific) part of town it all sounds a bit Sarfend.

That aside, I just bought this plane simply based on the looks of the modelling. It's one of those aircraft I personally find real fugly, but the modelling impressed me hugely. I just hope I can still ctrl-e my way around in it. I know that's considered sacrilege by a lot of folks but I just want to get in the air and go look around. You could replace pretty much all those dials with Mickey Mouse alarm clocks as far as I care <grin>. In fact, that might make for an interesting mod . . .

You realise only about 1% of the Avsim community will understand that post?  

As for the Mickey Mouse mod, expect one up at flightsim.to within a week, probably with matching paper coffee cups. 

On a more serious note, I am really interested in this bird. 

The sounds will be a big part of it for me, along with the 'feel' of it in flight.  It seems a few aircraft have an issue with getting that right in MSFS at the moment.  There is sometimes a lack of inertia, which is linked to the 'twitchyness' no doubt.  It isn't easy, especially when you put all of the different controller types and peoples' different controller settings into the mix.

 

On 3/25/2022 at 6:58 AM, andy1252 said:

Hey, I spent my first six months here thinking that the local accent was remarkably similar to Brummie. Then I realised there's a lot of Brummies living down here. And in my (very specific) part of town it all sounds a bit Sarfend.

 

Scotland-by-the-Sea in my bit. The merest hint of sunlight and they turn bright red.😀

 

On 3/25/2022 at 4:19 AM, fakeflyer737 said:

The 414 feels lighter than anything I’ve ever flown and there is just no way you can pitch up 8 degrees in half a second when you’re a Vmc like the mod does. I highly doubt the real thing does that. It needs to feel heavier. 

and from what I keep reading on avsim I thought that non-study level was an exclusive to Carenado ....

 

Whilst i am not a RWP, and cannot speak from experiance, i do love this aircraft. yes as the more experianced have stated there are a few things needing tweaked, the aircraft is in a pretty good state for a beta release. I was expecting far more issues. For me it's going to be up there with the kodiak as a favourite of mine in the GA class of aircraft. ( I know they are totally different, just giving an example of how i feel about it)

Well done FSW

 

I can't wait to pick this up! Is there any state persistence like with JF aircraft have? Oh man between this and the 310...my wallet is already burning 😅 

 

I don't find the aircraft twitchy at all, in fact I'm impressed how smooth and stable it is but then again I'm not banging the stick around.

Just use smooth control input pressure, the aircraft will do exactly what you want it to do.

The real aircraft does not require large inputs but it is heavy on the controls and this aircraft feels like it does have some weight to it.

I do see some areas where it could be improved that I'll post in the beta forum as I fly it more.

If you want to see a twitchy aircraft, go fly the Reno P-51 Voodoo.

 

On 3/25/2022 at 8:14 AM, skully said:

I don't find the aircraft twitchy at all, in fact I'm impressed how smooth and stable it is but then again I'm not banging the stick around.

Just use smooth control input pressure, the aircraft will do exactly what you want it to do.

The real aircraft does not require large inputs but it is heavy on the controls and this aircraft feels like it does have some weight to it.

.

Yes this is what I find.  It's gotta be control dependent though.  Maybe we who find it stable should post our settings?

 

 

Anyone knows how I , as a noob, can select an altitude for the AP?

 

I recognize the fact this is sold as a beta at the moment.

That said:

Does the EFB work for other people? I've gone through the 80+ pages of the manual. Does the auto pilot work other than the heading mode work for other people? Can you get it to start?....Ii have to place it on a runway threshold and it comes up running. Anyone's thoughts on the garmin 530?

Again, I recognize that i bought this as a beta but i expected a little more I guess. I think this machine has a lot of promise once the rough edges are rounded off. Over the years I really enjoyed the RealAir Duke and think this could eventually be a great replacement for it in MSFS2020.

Thanks for any constructive responses. Cheers.

 

Flies lovely. Nice and stable and easy. But once again, like the Twotter, there's a sound issue. There's a ridiculous and abrupt change in the engine sound as you increase the throttle from idle. God these silly sound bugs get to me! Still, it's a beta I suppose....

 

On 3/25/2022 at 10:06 AM, jarmstro said:

Flies lovely. Nice and stable and easy. But once again, like the Twotter, there's a sound issue. There's a ridiculous and abrupt change in the engine sound as you increase the throttle from idle. God these silly sound bugs get to me! Still, it's a beta I suppose....

It is like dajavu. See my comment from yesterday when I asked about the sound:

 

 

 

 

Anyone tried it in VR? Comments?

 

23 hours ago, espent said:

It is like dajavu. See my comment from yesterday when I asked about the sound:

 

 

 

Im guessing the problem is this- They record the engine sound at idle. Then they record the sound with the engine under power. But they are unable or can't be bothered to take the trouble to realistically transition between the two?

 

Unable to start the left engine, can start the right engine just fine, but the left won't turn over, could be doing something wrong idk.

 

23 hours ago, jarmstro said:

Im guessing the problem is this- They record the engine sound at idle. Then they record the sound with the engine under power. But they are unable or can't be bothered to take the trouble to realistically transition between the two?

That doesn't "sound" good... I will wait for the final version before I decide if I shall buy this aircraft as engine sounds are very important to me.

 

23 hours ago, Ixoye said:

That doesn't "sound" good... I will wait for the final version before I decide if I shall buy this aircraft as engine sounds are very important to me.

And to me. Carenado seem to manage it?

 

I think I'll stick with the Kodiak a little while longer.....

 

23 hours ago, Booms said:

Anyone tried it in VR? Comments?

It's absolutely stunning in VR both interior and exterior come to life.

I spent about 5 minutes just staring at the worn white leather seat textures.😂

 

On 3/25/2022 at 8:14 AM, skully said:

I don't find the aircraft twitchy at all, in fact I'm impressed how smooth and stable it is but then again I'm not banging the stick around.

Just use smooth control input pressure, the aircraft will do exactly what you want it to do.

The real aircraft does not require large inputs but it is heavy on the controls and this aircraft feels like it does have some weight to it.

I do see some areas where it could be improved that I'll post in the beta forum as I fly it more.

If you want to see a twitchy aircraft, go fly the Reno P-51 Voodoo.

I did an RNAV approach with it just after release - felt pretty good to me.

 

22 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

I did an RNAV approach with it just after release - felt pretty good to me.

Yes indeed, very easy and stable to hand fly in IFR conditions.

It's a really good IFR platform.

I took off in heavy fog out of Santa Barbara this morning- confidence inspiring handling.

 

22 hours ago, skully said:

Yes indeed, very easy and stable to hand fly in IFR conditions.

It's a really good IFR platform.

I took off in heavy fog out of Santa Barbara this morning- confidence inspiring handling.

Very, very inspiring!

 

Guys I have never flow 414 but don't get fooled by size of GA airplane vs controllability. I flown lighter airplanes with heavier controls and heavier with lighter. Basically there are many factors to consider . Just in contrast my Cessna 182F was 10 times easier to fly instrument than 172P! Bonanza v35  very light on controls and sensitive comparing say with PA28. So really our expectation of 414 could be different! The best way to go is to listel few 414 drivers. I may have a friend who I think flown 414 I will give him call! 

 

On 3/25/2022 at 9:42 AM, dbw1 said:

I recognize the fact this is sold as a beta at the moment.

That said:

Does the EFB work for other people? I've gone through the 80+ pages of the manual. Does the auto pilot work other than the heading mode work for other people? Can you get it to start?....Ii have to place it on a runway threshold and it comes up running. Anyone's thoughts on the garmin 530?

Again, I recognize that i bought this as a beta but i expected a little more I guess. I think this machine has a lot of promise once the rough edges are rounded off. Over the years I really enjoyed the RealAir Duke and think this could eventually be a great replacement for it in MSFS2020.

Thanks for any constructive responses. Cheers.

Can you be specific?  Yes the EFB works - mostly for changing static items for walk around etc.  I'm not sure if states are working yet - might be something he'll add later.  Yes I can start it.  Assuming gas is in the tanks, don't forget the pumps to low, prime, and the magnetos on, mixture might need to be cracked a bit more.  Usually in our plane for a cold start it's mixture idle then when it turns over, add mixture.  But its just a single engine.  And this is MSFS with many engine bugs LOL.

For autopilot my preference is to press FD, bug the items I want.  HDG mode, or VS or IAS use the wheel to set those up.  Dial an altitude in the selector below the HSI, press ARM...once airborne, trim for climb, and press AP to engage the autopilot.  Autopilot is different from the crappy default version...so if all you've used is that you'll be confused.  I've done ILS and RNAV(GPS) approaches with vertical guidance (using TDS GTN Xi here - I guess the PMS units work as well).  You can either let the AP do all of those or use FD independently from AP and hand fly it...or hand fly without the FD at all.  Don't forget all the switches on the left side console - especially the Avionics Master- which would also power the avionics/AP/fuel computer.  Originally the CFS2000A (fuel computer) was on the main battery bus but according to FSW - Asobo limits what gauges can be on the main bus based on how they are coded....so they had to put it on avionics bus.

The plane is actually really polished - just some minor items.  It sounds like you may be missing a few things if starting cold and dark.  But if you are finding bugs you should definitely post them at FSW's sub forum here at avsim!  They are very open to feedback!

 

I'm able to start and fly the airplane. The autopilot altitude holds as well as climbing and descending. The autopilot heading hold works too...but I am not able to get NAV mode to hold the GPS (GNS530).

I have to use Heading hold to fly with autopilot.

 

Here's a few more descending into L.A. to give you some different looks at the aircraft.

 

 

21 hours ago, flyblueskies said:

I'm able to start and fly the airplane. The autopilot altitude holds as well as climbing and descending. The autopilot heading hold works too...but I am not able to get NAV mode to hold the GPS (GNS530).

I have to use Heading hold to fly with autopilot.

Did you set CDI to GPS?

 

20 hours ago, sd_flyer said:

Did you set CDI to GPS?

Yes I did.

 

21 hours ago, sd_flyer said:

Guys I have never flow 414 but don't get fooled by size of GA airplane vs controllability. I flown lighter airplanes with heavier controls and heavier with lighter. Basically there are many factors to consider . Just in contrast my Cessna 182F was 10 times easier to fly instrument than 172P! Bonanza v35  very light on controls and sensitive comparing say with PA28. So really our expectation of 414 could be different! The best way to go is to listel few 414 drivers. I may have a friend who I think flown 414 I will give him call! 

Really good points and I also thought I read earlier in the thread that the developer owns one of these (lucky dude) and if so I'd give him the benefit of a doubt that he'd know how it should handle too.

 

19 hours ago, flyblueskies said:

Yes I did.

There is a thread talking about PMS530 has been broken after last update. 

 

@skully Nice pics.

It looks tempting, but it's still in Beta and I'm upgrading my board, CPU, and Ram.

I'll wait just a little longer.

 

On 3/24/2022 at 11:06 PM, bigifooti said:

You'll all probably already knew, but it suddenly clicked with me. This is the same plane as in the following youtube video. 

https://youtu.be/W4fShGLFhG0?t=681

Scrolled back to the beginning of that video and watched it and a couple more of his after the refit. Does the FSW (still default to short lived Flight Sim World when I see that) version include the updated interior, leather seats, varnished cabinetry, etc?

 

I watched the video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOqSSuvArGc but I'm kind of turned off by the old looking interior in that one.

 

 

 

Cabin details absolutely stunning!

 

Who produces the GTN750 add-on to purchase for this aircraft shown in the pics? Thanks.

 

18 hours ago, dbw1 said:

Who produces the GTN750 add-on to purchase for this aircraft shown in the pics? Thanks.

Garmin LOL Joke aside I have both (links below):

https://pms50.com/msfs/

https://msfsaddons.com/2022/02/21/a-new-gtn-650-750-solution-emerges-for-msfs-the-tds-gtnxi/

 

19 hours ago, sd_flyer said:

There is a thread talking about PMS530 has been broken after last update. 

Thanks!

I'll take a look at that...that could be it.

 

17 hours ago, sd_flyer said:

https://pms50.com/msfs/

https://msfsaddons.com/2022/02/21/a-new-gtn-650-750-solution-emerges-for-msfs-the-tds-gtnxi/

Which one do you recommend?

 

Did a short 20 minute hop earlier from KSAN to KCRQ. Startup was just fine. Some of my bound switches don’t work (battery etc) but it’s just as easy to click the bar and toggle the switches. Idle sound was glorious. Taxi was uneventful. It was nice seeing the shocks move with the inertia of the plane while turning on the ground.

Takeoff roll was good. Little twitchy on the rudder but that’s MSFS. Rotated, pitch was a slight twitch my but that could have been more on me than anything as the axis didn’t feel as excessive once in the air. Departed to the west off 27, turned north over the water and punched in KCRQ on the TDSgtnxi. Did the rnav into 24 just to see. Hand flew the whole thing. Quick climb to 8000 for dunby and then back down following the procedure. Zero issues. So far it’s pretty amazing. If it was a 421 I may have called into work to spend the day flying but beggars can’t be choosers here.

I will post an initial thoughts video this weekend probably Sunday to my YT channel. Kudos to FSW for once again exceeding my expectations. Now to finish this and give us all the Lear 35……

 

17 hours ago, DJJose said:

Which one do you recommend?

TDS. It uses the garmin trainer like our old favorite RXP one. The PMS is a decent reskin on the default gps although they have begun to use some of the g1000nxi code which should help it immensely.

 

Ugh, waiting for a while now on an email to activate my account at the FSW website so I can buy this...anyone else have much of a delay?

 

Not sure if this is where FSW are looking for bug list but a couple of things.  Batt switch not binding to alpha yoke, 530 not GPS coupling with NAV mode and AP switch on front panel not clickable to activate but maybe it's not supposed to.  When activating fans in cockpit the sounds stay on after shutdown and turning batt off.

Flies really nice, sounds are great however the cooldown clicking is a bit too much.

Jase

 

 

17 hours ago, JaseMelbo said:

Not sure if this is where FSW are looking for bug list but a couple of things.  Batt switch not binding to alpha yoke, 530 not GPS coupling with NAV mode and AP switch on front panel not clickable to activate but maybe it's not supposed to.  When activating fans in cockpit the sounds stay on after shutdown and turning batt off.

Flies really nice, sounds are great however the cooldown clicking is a bit too much.

Jase

 

Mine I am unable to start. Occasionally the prop levers do zero and rpm and mixture lever can sort of control rpm. Autopilot V/S and ALT capture are U/S. interestingly the AP light on the mode panel stays amber after AP power is turned on, pressed it and no change. Fuel gauges appear to be U/S. As it is now mine is essentially not flyable.

I am wondering if my download is corrupt. The first download was corrupt - this is the second download. 

 

18 hours ago, sd_flyer said:

 

Cabin details absolutely stunning!

Stunning indeed!!!

Will buy as soon as this Iberian update ever finishes.

Embarrassed to ask, but does this plane include a lavatory of some kind??

I only have time to fly on weekends which is also when my lovely wife brews TONS of coffee....I don’t want to take this beauty from KSBM to KMSP and have to stop to pee on the way!?! 😉

 

 

 

16 hours ago, dbw1 said:

Mine I am unable to start. Occasionally the prop levers do zero and rpm and mixture lever can sort of control rpm. Autopilot V/S and ALT capture are U/S. interestingly the AP light on the mode panel stays amber after AP power is turned on, pressed it and no change. Fuel gauges appear to be U/S. As it is now mine is essentially not flyable.

I am wondering if my download is corrupt. The first download was corrupt - this is the second download. 

Could be - right click on your main folder and compare properties to mine?  (Mine is a Windows Store install)

fsxfiles by Ryan Butterworth, on Flickr

 

16 hours ago, ryanbatc said:

Could be - right click on your main folder and compare properties to mine?  (Mine is a Windows Store install)

fsxfiles by Ryan Butterworth, on Flickr

My Size and Size on Disk are larger. I've sent a report off to Flysimware. it will get figured out. I'm a long time customer and I've always been completely satisfied with them.

Ryan, thanks for your responses and suggestions - most appreciated.

Dave

 

15 hours ago, dbw1 said:

My Size and Size on Disk are larger. I've sent a report off to Flysimware. it will get figured out. I'm a long time customer and I've always been completely satisfied with them.

Ryan, thanks for your responses and suggestions - most appreciated.

Dave

Larger?  That's interesting hehe.   Shoot it is incredibly frustrating when you've bought something and it isn't working right away.  I agree, FSW will get it fixed!

 

16 hours ago, dbw1 said:

Mine I am unable to start. Occasionally the prop levers do zero and rpm and mixture lever can sort of control rpm. Autopilot V/S and ALT capture are U/S. interestingly the AP light on the mode panel stays amber after AP power is turned on, pressed it and no change. Fuel gauges appear to be U/S. As it is now mine is essentially not flyable.

I am wondering if my download is corrupt. The first download was corrupt - this is the second download. 

Hmmmm.  Mine doesn't have these issues.  Maybe grab another Download and re-install.

Hopefully that fixes it for you.

Jase

 

16 hours ago, Republic DC9 said:

Stunning indeed!!!

Will buy as soon as this Iberian update ever finishes.

Embarrassed to ask, but does this plane include a lavatory of some kind??

I only have time to fly on weekends which is also when my lovely wife brews TONS of coffee....I don’t want to take this beauty from KSBM to KMSP and have to stop to pee on the way!?! 😉

 

 

Well....

Hmmm...https://www.mypilotstore.com/mypilotstore/sep/2632

 

14 hours ago, sd_flyer said:

Well....

Hmmm...https://www.mypilotstore.com/mypilotstore/sep/2632

No need for that in this plane.  I saw a 414 for sale with a lavatory.  Belted lav so I guess it could double as an extra seat if someone wanted to sit on the throne.

 

17 hours ago, regis9 said:

Ugh, waiting for a while now on an email to activate my account at the FSW website so I can buy this...anyone else have much of a delay?

You are not alone....I have been waiting as well.

 

Hopefully tomorrow...bed time again here.

 

How are the sounds on this plane? Opinions seem to range from "excellent" to "horrible".

 

5 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

Opinions seem to range from "excellent" to "horrible".

It's the Avsim way. 😄

 

On the preview videos I thought they sounded quite good, though I am concerned to read a few posts saying they don’t transition well like the Twin Otter.  

Unfortunately I still can’t set up an account to buy the aircraft so can’t provide first hand knowledge.

 

Found a stream of the plane going on at

 

 

Is a new FSW account required for purchase if you have an account  from buying previous products? I own his Falcon, Lear, and MU2 aircraft for P3D. I will buy this over the weekend!

 

Just purchased and installed.

I am not a real life pilot but the quality of the textures etc seems very nice as does the flight model - easy to fly, lands nicely, reeks of the 1970s - my new favorite for sure.

I sort of wish I could zoom out more with the mouse wheel in the cockpit but no big deal.

Can’t wait until Mr. Atwood and Ryan and Jankees and the other repainters go to town with this one.

A good purchase.

 

3 hours ago, billgustaf said:

Is a new FSW account required for purchase if you have an account  from buying previous products? I own his Falcon, Lear, and MU2 aircraft for P3D. I will buy this over the weekend!

No.  Should be able to login to your existing one.  If it's been a long while it might be deactivated.  I recall FSW saying on discord last night that they were rapidly trying to get emails out (and reactivate accounts) - apparently the store was overwhelmed hehe.

 

4 hours ago, regis9 said:

On the preview videos I thought they sounded quite good, though I am concerned to read a few posts saying they don’t transition well like the Twin Otter.  

Unfortunately I still can’t set up an account to buy the aircraft so can’t provide first hand knowledge.

Same here...still can't get an account established (waiting on the email still). 

 

I read in the support forum there are a lot of accounts awaiting activation as the store was overwhelmed, apparently they are working on it, fingers crossed for today…

 

Anyone has performance charts for cruise?

 

56 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Anyone has performance charts for cruise?

We used 26" MAP, 2300 RPM, 85 FF. You can use that as a starting point.

 

On 3/25/2022 at 8:29 AM, ryanbatc said:

Yes this is what I find.  It's gotta be control dependent though.  Maybe we who find it stable should post our settings?

 

Good idea Captain!

Here's my sim joystick settings if it helps anyone.

 

 

 

56 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Anyone has performance charts for cruise?

I just did a trip from KGUP to KLAS at 14,000 feet.

The 414 can be a thirsty girl when ran hard.

MP 32" at 2500rpm gave me 160kts indicated with a groundspeed of 193kts and that's with a 9kt headwind.

Slurping the juice at 31.gph per side.

Was at almost full gross weight at takeoff for the 1hour 40 minute flight.

Climb performance when heavy is excellent even from a high altitude airport like KGUP which is at 6472 feet.

Love those turbos!

Edited March 24, 20224 yr by ark

Did a short 20 minute hop earlier from KSAN to KCRQ. Startup was just fine. Some of my bound switches don’t work (battery etc) but it’s just as easy to click the bar and toggle the switches. Idle sound was glorious. Taxi was uneventful. It was nice seeing the shocks move with the inertia of the plane while turning on the ground.

Takeoff roll was good. Little twitchy on the rudder but that’s MSFS. Rotated, pitch was a slight twitch my but that could have been more on me than anything as the axis didn’t feel as excessive once in the air. Departed to the west off 27, turned north over the water and punched in KCRQ on the TDSgtnxi. Did the rnav into 24 just to see. Hand flew the whole thing. Quick climb to 8000 for dunby and then back down following the procedure. Zero issues. So far it’s pretty amazing. If it was a 421 I may have called into work to spend the day flying but beggars can’t be choosers here.

I will post an initial thoughts video this weekend probably Sunday to my YT channel. Kudos to FSW for once again exceeding my expectations. Now to finish this and give us all the Lear 35……

3 minutes ago, DJJose said:

Which one do you recommend?

TDS. It uses the garmin trainer like our old favorite RXP one. The PMS is a decent reskin on the default gps although they have begun to use some of the g1000nxi code which should help it immensely.

Ugh, waiting for a while now on an email to activate my account at the FSW website so I can buy this...anyone else have much of a delay?

Not sure if this is where FSW are looking for bug list but a couple of things.  Batt switch not binding to alpha yoke, 530 not GPS coupling with NAV mode and AP switch on front panel not clickable to activate but maybe it's not supposed to.  When activating fans in cockpit the sounds stay on after shutdown and turning batt off.

Flies really nice, sounds are great however the cooldown clicking is a bit too much.

Jase

 

22 minutes ago, JaseMelbo said:

Not sure if this is where FSW are looking for bug list but a couple of things.  Batt switch not binding to alpha yoke, 530 not GPS coupling with NAV mode and AP switch on front panel not clickable to activate but maybe it's not supposed to.  When activating fans in cockpit the sounds stay on after shutdown and turning batt off.

Flies really nice, sounds are great however the cooldown clicking is a bit too much.

Jase

 

Mine I am unable to start. Occasionally the prop levers do zero and rpm and mixture lever can sort of control rpm. Autopilot V/S and ALT capture are U/S. interestingly the AP light on the mode panel stays amber after AP power is turned on, pressed it and no change. Fuel gauges appear to be U/S. As it is now mine is essentially not flyable.

I am wondering if my download is corrupt. The first download was corrupt - this is the second download. 

1 hour ago, sd_flyer said:

 

Cabin details absolutely stunning!

Stunning indeed!!!

Will buy as soon as this Iberian update ever finishes.

Embarrassed to ask, but does this plane include a lavatory of some kind??

I only have time to fly on weekends which is also when my lovely wife brews TONS of coffee....I don’t want to take this beauty from KSBM to KMSP and have to stop to pee on the way!?! 😉

 

 

40 minutes ago, dbw1 said:

Mine I am unable to start. Occasionally the prop levers do zero and rpm and mixture lever can sort of control rpm. Autopilot V/S and ALT capture are U/S. interestingly the AP light on the mode panel stays amber after AP power is turned on, pressed it and no change. Fuel gauges appear to be U/S. As it is now mine is essentially not flyable.

I am wondering if my download is corrupt. The first download was corrupt - this is the second download. 

Could be - right click on your main folder and compare properties to mine?  (Mine is a Windows Store install)

fsxfiles by Ryan Butterworth, on Flickr

21 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

Could be - right click on your main folder and compare properties to mine?  (Mine is a Windows Store install)

fsxfiles by Ryan Butterworth, on Flickr

My Size and Size on Disk are larger. I've sent a report off to Flysimware. it will get figured out. I'm a long time customer and I've always been completely satisfied with them.

Ryan, thanks for your responses and suggestions - most appreciated.

Dave

6 minutes ago, dbw1 said:

My Size and Size on Disk are larger. I've sent a report off to Flysimware. it will get figured out. I'm a long time customer and I've always been completely satisfied with them.

Ryan, thanks for your responses and suggestions - most appreciated.

Dave

Larger?  That's interesting hehe.   Shoot it is incredibly frustrating when you've bought something and it isn't working right away.  I agree, FSW will get it fixed!

58 minutes ago, dbw1 said:

Mine I am unable to start. Occasionally the prop levers do zero and rpm and mixture lever can sort of control rpm. Autopilot V/S and ALT capture are U/S. interestingly the AP light on the mode panel stays amber after AP power is turned on, pressed it and no change. Fuel gauges appear to be U/S. As it is now mine is essentially not flyable.

I am wondering if my download is corrupt. The first download was corrupt - this is the second download. 

Hmmmm.  Mine doesn't have these issues.  Maybe grab another Download and re-install.

Hopefully that fixes it for you.

Jase

1 hour ago, Republic DC9 said:

Stunning indeed!!!

Will buy as soon as this Iberian update ever finishes.

Embarrassed to ask, but does this plane include a lavatory of some kind??

I only have time to fly on weekends which is also when my lovely wife brews TONS of coffee....I don’t want to take this beauty from KSBM to KMSP and have to stop to pee on the way!?! 😉

 

 

Well....

Hmmm...https://www.mypilotstore.com/mypilotstore/sep/2632

27 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Well....

Hmmm...https://www.mypilotstore.com/mypilotstore/sep/2632

No need for that in this plane.  I saw a 414 for sale with a lavatory.  Belted lav so I guess it could double as an extra seat if someone wanted to sit on the throne.