1 hour ago, Ikarus280 said:

Not sure how strong the incentive is to fix those (potential) issues later on and improve the product as months go by, if all the money has already been paid and it's considered a complete deal. 

This is a valid point, I think. Hopefully Jörg was smart enough to include reasonable product support as part of the deal with inibuilds.

1 hour ago, threegreen said:

I don't get it 😬

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"team building" exercises and seminars

Otherwise known by skeptical types (correctly in some circumstances) as 'company indoctrination sessions' where the company attempts to extol its virtues and general wonderfulness, in spite of what workers can see on a daily basis. 🙊
 

Edited June 16, 20223 yr by F737MAX

4 hours ago, WestAir said:

Does anyone have an iniBuilds aircraft? They tend to go above and beyond right? Like modeling the windshield wiper flying off if used above operation speed, or static electricity buildup on the windscreen during certain conditions?

If that's who I'm thinking of, then man... I can't imagine getting such an airframe for free.

I have their A300 on XP and its modeling is superb, the best I have seen in XP, thus I am more than sure they will step up their game in MSFS.

26 minutes ago, omarsmak30 said:

I have their A300 on XP and its modeling is superb, the best I have seen in XP, thus I am more than sure they will step up their game in MSFS.

Nice, when you say modeling do you mean the 3D modeling, or the flight-model/systems etc, or all? I suspect the latter :)

8 minutes ago, lwt1971 said:

Nice, when you say modeling do you mean the 3D modeling, or the flight-model/systems etc, or all? I suspect the latter :)

For airliners both , this is coming from several streamers that use X-Plane and not my opinion. Some say they are on par with PMDG and Fenix.

Edited June 16, 20223 yr by jbdbow1970

Looking forward to their A310. It's offering nice route opportunities. Really interesting aircraft to try out imho. 

10 hours ago, Ikarus280 said:

While I'm very happy with the good news, I hope that the aircraft will not be rushed due to release date demands by MS, resulting in incomplete systems or poor performance. 

Not sure how strong the incentive is to fix those (potential) issues later on and improve the product as months go by, if all the money has already been paid and it's considered a complete deal. 

With the usual payware aircraft issues are usually fixed later, and new features added down the road in order to make more sales from newcomers. 

Any contract for their product would almost certainly come with a standard contract for support after initial release, insofar as it concerns actual bugs and stuff. And if their aim is to retain their "partnership" with MSFS, they don't want to put out something that gets dragged by the entire community for being an unfinished pile of bugs thus providing questionable value to Microsoft/Asobo.

As far as improvements/tweaks go, I imagine that would be left to iniBuilds.  But if they take any pride in their work (as I would guess they do), I doubt this will really be a concern.

In summation - I'm not really worried about that aspect of things.

Is this thing more similar to a Boeing (737) airliner than the A320 / A321 models etc?  LNAV, VNAV?  Less automated?

8 hours ago, lwt1971 said:

Nice, when you say modeling do you mean the 3D modeling, or the flight-model/systems etc, or all? I suspect the latter 🙂

All 🙂

1 hour ago, Greazer said:

Is this thing more similar to a Boeing (737) airliner than the A320 / A321 models etc?  LNAV, VNAV?  Less automated?

Well, its has a yoke rather than a side stick, to begin with... As for the rest it has LNAV and VNAV and computerized flight controls, but not fly-by-wire like the A320.

4 minutes ago, iborg1979 said:

Well, its has a yoke rather than a side stick, to begin with... As for the rest it has LNAV and VNAV and computerized flight controls, but not fly-by-wire like the A320.

Yeah, I'd say the A310 is quite similar in tech to the 767/757 line which were introduced almost at the same time (early 80's). The FMS might be little weaker on the A310. (No proper FIX page for radials, distances, TACT page is way less efficient than the VNAV pages on 767/757)

19 hours ago, F737MAX said:

Otherwise known by skeptical types (correctly in some circumstances) as 'company indoctrination sessions' where the company attempts to extol its virtues and general wonderfulness, in spite of what workers can see on a daily basis. 🙊

Brought to you by the friendly airline beginning with an R.

On their discord iniBuilds is saying "I wouldn't rule it out, but nothing concrete announced as of yet" when asked about a possibility of a A300-600 for MSFS (https://discord.com/channels/535246634448191499/784467650612822016/987417829324230716) ... one of various aircraft they'll probably release as payware after the A310. Personally I hope they focus all their dev efforts on the A380 after the A310 is released :)

Edited June 17, 20223 yr by lwt1971

5 hours ago, lwt1971 said:

one of various aircraft they'll probably release as payware after the A310. Personally I hope they focus all their dev efforts on the A380 after the A310 is released 🙂

I think it makes sense they release A300 after A310 due to the similarities between those two.

On 6/16/2022 at 8:32 PM, Fiorentoni said:

I know many people say it's the best they've ever flown, but I think many of those only fly/flew on XPL, so cannot really compare to PMDG or FSL. I'd like to hear from someone who extensively flown PMDG, FSL and Inibuilds.

This is exactly what makes me cautious when people say, the A300 and A310 are the best they have ever flown.

Which aircraft have they used previously and along with the A310?

PMDGs 747 in P3D and FsLabs' A320? Then they have got a fair comparison.

Those semi finished freeware mods for XPlane? Not so.