1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

Are you an A 320  pilot in real life? 

He won't even answer a simple question you asked him without responding with a quote from "another experienced A320 pilot" you can't take guys like this seriously.

Edited June 15, 20223 yr by jbdbow1970

1 minute ago, jbdbow1970 said:

He won't even answer a simple question you asked him without responding with a quote from "another experienced A320 pilot" you can't take guys like this seriously.

I figured as much. Real pilots don't run off at the mouth, and I have known many in my life. 

Ok now we can go back to the original topic the Inibuilds A310.

4 minutes ago, jbdbow1970 said:

He won't even answer a simple question you asked him without responding with a quote from "another experienced A320 pilot" you can't take guys like this seriously.

Yup that "very experienced A320 captain" whose name he conveniently left out, is "DEHowie" who's a FSL team member/tester, as Aamir clarifed here: https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/620248-fenix-a320-engine-out-weirdiness/?do=findComment&comment=4791522
 

33 minutes ago, lwt1971 said:

Oh here we go again, one FSL shill quotes another FSL shill (aka "the most experienced A32x captain" to a certain someone), who Aamir thankfully identified to us as a FSL team member who kept dumping on a recent Fenix thread, see Aamir's post here:
https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/620248-fenix-a320-engine-out-weirdiness/?do=findComment&comment=4791522... to then go on and on about how FSL is so much better than the Fenix by exaggerating its small issues, on a thread about the iniBuilds A310, which btw we Fenix A320 lovers can't absolutely wait to fly in all its high fidelity and high flight dynamics goodness in the MSFS 40th anniversary edition 🙂

Keep on harping, and we'll keep taking the words of multiple legitimate IRL A320/airbus pilots over the words of FSL shills any day :)) ... given that the words of a FSL team member's words on the Fenix A320 are being regurgitating, I'll copy/paste the various IRL a320/airbus pilots' comments again too:

Into the Blue Simulations: 
- https://youtu.be/x-j-JvXglDo?t=4100: "Thoroughly impressed with everything ... not much negative to say, long list of positives ... sounds really top notch in cockpit ambience and engine sounds ... flight model is hands down the best airbus experience I've ever had in any sim, small negative where auto thrust came on too quickly at times, pretty amazing overall and very true to life ... systems modelling top of the class"

V1 Simulations:
- "this EFB is blowing my mind ... this failure landing distance procedure is better than what we do in real life"
- "this is the closest airbus simulation I've ever flown to the real aircraft, period ... it's the benchmark" (watch from here onwards: https://youtu.be/YbOkK-eWtJI?t=6451)
- watch his video from https://youtu.be/YbOkK-eWtJI?t=4547 onwards where he does a hydraulics green system failure and then IRL procedures all the way to a diverted landing with gravity gear extensions, slow surface controls deployments, etc
- "the immersion that you get from this airplane is nothing like what you've seen before, you saw a little bit of it with FSLabs" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbXqAew3kRg)

320 Sim Pilot:
- has had nothing but compliments for the Fenix, check out his videos here: https://www.youtube.com/c/320SimPilot/videos
- "I can't express how happy I am about the handling of this aircraft, fantastic"
- "Love hand flying the Fenix a320, just behaves like the real aircraft.. this is all with default default controller settings even"
 

 

One thing  this thread has done, is convince me never to buy anything developed by FSL.....

2 hours ago, ha5mvo said:

I can go on till the cows come home if you really want me to...

Yes, please do. When the cows get home, keep going.

1 hour ago, ha5mvo said:

To quote the most experienced A32x captain to post here:

I'm just going to say that it's unethical to deliberately not disclose if you are beta testing for a competitor's product, when you criticize the Fenix A320.  For stock analysts, they need to disclose if they own the stock, or if they own shares in a competitor, when they make specific stock recommendations.

All the pilot that you cite needed to do was disclose that he beta tests for the FSL, and disclose it up front. Then all his criticisms of the Fenix A320 would be trusted. By deliberately not disclosing he was a beta tester for FSL, it took away all his credibility, and IMO, it was unethical to not disclose this.  Furthermore, making claims that Fenix A320 reviewers are "paid," is simply out of line, not true, and further ruins his credibility.

I don't know why you quote someone with such a poor credibility.  IMO, when you quote somebody with such poor credibility, their poor credibility transfers onto you.

Edited June 15, 20223 yr by abrams_tank

Let the sour be sour. Fenix is way ahead of FSL in terms of customer support and product quality.

1 hour ago, abrams_tank said:

I'm just going to say that it's unethical to deliberately not disclose if you are beta testing for a competitor's product, when you criticize the Fenix A320.  For stock analysts, they need to disclose if they own the stock, or if they own shares in a competitor, when they make specific stock recommendations.

All the pilot that you cite needed to do was disclose that he beta tests for the FSL, and disclose it up front. Then all his criticisms of the Fenix A320 would be trusted. By deliberately not disclosing he was a beta tester for FSL, it took away all his credibility, and IMO, it was unethical to not disclose this.  Furthermore, making claims that Fenix A320 reviewers are "paid," is simply out of line, not true, and further ruins his credibility.

I don't know why you quote someone with such a poor credibility.  IMO, when you quote somebody with such poor credibility, their poor credibility transfers onto you.

There was a rule a few years ago that if you were a Beta tester on Avsim, that had to be in your signature. I was a beta tester at the time, and I placed that in my signature. I guess that rule was discarded. They should bring it back. 

I find it phenomenal that we will receive a 'study level' airliner and multiple other quality aircraft for free.

It doesn't absolve Asobo from criticism for some rather glaring issues that remain (as of now) unresolved. That said, the commitment to enriching the 'base sim' with yet more new quality content is wonderful.
After £😨 spent on buying multiple third party products to get to my older sims to a 'respectable level' of realism, this is a wholly welcome change of attitude from the development team.

6 hours ago, ha5mvo said:

 Considerably overpowered on takeoff! will command a 19-20 degree pitch (always 15 degree on the real thing).  V

Like this thing?

 

33 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Like this thing?

Fatality!!!😆

53 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Like this thing?

 

Just prove my point.

This is a TOGA takeoff (made reference to it in the other post). Probably on a lightly loaded craft.

On the fenix, every takeoff is a TOGA takeoff = considerably overpowered .

 

21 minutes ago, ha5mvo said:

Just prove my point.

This is a TOGA takeoff (made reference to it in the other post). Probably on a lightly loaded craft.

On the fenix, every takeoff is a TOGA takeoff = considerably overpowered .

Let the goalshifting commence! You said it is ALWAYS 15 degrees on the real thing so consider yourself owned.

13 minutes ago, ha5mvo said:

Just prove my point.

This is a TOGA takeoff (made reference to it in the other post). Probably on a lightly loaded craft.

On the fenix, every takeoff is a TOGA takeoff = considerably overpowered .

 

Probably, should have, could have LOL You did not get my point ! I have tons of friends who fly for living from corporate to airlines most of them already captains with solid seniority  and no one ever have such stuck up attitude like you and your buddy H. I'm pretty sure Fenix will continues fixing shortcoming, unfortunately there is not cure for such ego tripped individuals with thousands of hour and no common sense LOL