With respect to floatplane physics, we just need the source code for Flight Unlimited 3. Problem solved

25 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

With respect to floatplane physics, we just need the source code for Flight Unlimited 3. Problem solved

What a memory!  I remember being blown away with the detail and realism!

I want to live in that floating turbo Otter!

 

7 hours ago, AnkH said:

As long as there is no physical water interaction, I could not care less about floatplane availability...

You snatched the words right out of my keyboard ! 

Seeing a floatplane land or take-off from water is truly pathetic and unworthy of the otherwise outragious beauty MSFS provides. And still the floatplanes keep coming and coming and still the take-off and landings look pathetic and pathetic. They really don't care much about effects, huh.... MS/Asobo....while they still managed to present us with exhaust heat blur.... that's quite amazing indeed but i'd trade it in a second for decent floatplane-water-wake/splash effects, recip engine start-up smoke and tire smoke upon runway landing. And i won't even talk about a Fly-By camera and Instant Replay...

Dear MS/Asobo, about those floatplane water splash effects. put this in your pipe and smoke it : https://youtu.be/En0JX4HmSuo?t=1944

Ok, that's a bit much to ask for, sure, Just give us a decent, little bit realistic floatplane wake/splash effect so we can all start buying your floatplanes without feeling embarrassed when viewing our water take-offs and landings. And throw in a decent Fly-By camera for good measure, OK ?..... THANK YOU SO MUCH !!

 

    

Edited September 13, 20223 yr by Javiz
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In addition to the regular Beaver we also need a Turbo Beaver.  I remember several years ago while out in the bush in Alaska a regular Beaver took off and used a lot the lake getting airborne and only cleared the trees by 50 feet.  Climb out was slow and had to dodge the hills (more like mountains) on the way out.  Gross weight was unknown but no doubt it was heavy and it was one of those warm Alaskan days so that did not help.  Not long after a Turbo Beaver took off and the performance difference was pretty amazing.  Used half the lake and cleared the trees by 200 feet.  Then it managed to continue climbing out and cleared the hills and mountains right away.  Again no idea on weight but it was likely it had a sizable payload as well!

The Milviz Beaver package was rather good and mostly complete for FSX/P3D but was always the normal radial engined version.  I believe they had mentioned a Turbo Beaver briefly at one time but that never happened.  We have never had a solid Turbo Beaver in FSX/P3D so hopefully we get one for MSFS.

Of coarse you can't have the Beaver without an Otter by its side.  Luckily Milviz had a good Otter and they did turboprop it as well.  I would say its almost 100% certainty we will get both in MSFS and will probably be enjoying them by this time next year. 

With Milviz selling the Beaver to Asobo/Microsoft its likely not known what control they lost for future versions?  From what I read we are not getting a floats version but only the amphibious version.  In the sim it might not be that big of a deal but in real life the floats water only version was a lot more capable then the amphibious version.  Those amphibious floats add a lot of weight.  Also its not known if Milviz can take the Beaver they sold and modify it and sell it as a Milviz product.  Knowing how things work in the world of business its doubtful! 

Having a free Beaver in the sim might be kind of cool.  You can't complain about free but I am concerned it will not be the definitive Beaver package we really want.  In time we may be wishing for another developer to create a complete Beaver package. 

 

 

Aerosoft's Catalina please.

Maybe a developer will add a Float Sim Physics module other people can use with new animations and all, who knows. I also found water landing a bit hum drum to be frank.

8 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

With respect to floatplane physics, we just need the source code for Flight Unlimited 3. Problem solved

I was just thinking about this sim the other day. It was so advanced! Great graphics,great ATC,that would actually sound frustrated if you didn't follow instructions and they sounded human too. Even AI in the pattern at small airports made correct traffic calls and sounded human not like AI. The physics were amazing across the entire flight unlimited series especially in the aerobatics regime (no sim has ever gotten that correct since) if LookingGlass had survived I can't imagine how advanced sims would have become.

 We have a Beaver and the Hercules coming soon.   Still waiting on the Kodiak's floats.  

I prefer floatplanes,  so I'm making use of the Twotter,  the Husky A1-C, and the FSX Goose Redux too.

I guess I'd like to see Kermit's Sikorsky,   and a Grumman Duck.   The S-39 just oozes sexy art-deco.  You can park her right next to the old Chris-Craft's,  and Garwoods.

IF anyone who wants to watch a good WWII flick,   "Murphy's War" was excellent.    The Duck was one of it's stars, imo.

 

Edited September 13, 20223 yr by Waldo Pepper

The Porter on floats will be great.  The holy grail of seaplanes really is the Beaver though.  No, it doesn't have the performance of something with a turbine (of course), but it's just an iconic classic.  It also is the only plane I know of (there must be others though) that was purpose-designed from the start to be on floats. 

I've always thought that if I ever decided to buy an airplane in reality, a Murphy Moose would be fantastic (with the radial of course)  :).  Kind of a mini, personal-use version of a Beaver.

@Waldo Pepper Would I like to see the Sikorsky S-39! In my RC days, I built an S-39 from scratch. Can’t remember the exact scale, but it had about a 5 foot wing span. This plane is so unique! This is the “Spirit of Africa” paint scheme in this video that I reproduced in every detail for my model. It was fabulous! 

 

23 hours ago, ryanbatc said:

(probably could use some new water physics too!)

This is what's keeping me from getting too excited about float planes at this point.  The ones I've tried haven't been the best experience.

Love the FU3 reference...that sim was well ahead of it's time in so many ways.

 

 

1 hour ago, Waldo Pepper said:

I prefer floatplanes,  so I'm making use of the Twotter,  the Husky A1-C, and the FSX Goose Redux too.

IF anyone who wants to watch a good WWII flick,   "Murphy's War" was excellent.    The Duck was one of it's stars, imo.

4:51 I suppose it's a bird flying out of the trees on the left but it looks like a boomerang!

I wish there were American English subtitles (her Afrikaners Dutch), and Peter O'tooles Irish brogue.

 

Something I would like to see changed.  I tried to choose a spot for departure at one of our local large lakes.  I wouldn't let me do it.  Started me 1500 feet up. The way it is now is I have to find some seaplane base, that I know nothing about and fly in a area that I don't want to fly in. If I could take off in any body of water it would open up a lot of opportunities, like picking some out of the way lake in Alaska and explore the area. The way it is now, I never use a float plane.

Roy

On 9/13/2022 at 6:49 PM, Doering said:

@Waldo Pepper Would I like to see the Sikorsky S-39! In my RC days, I built an S-39 from scratch. Can’t remember the exact scale, but it had about a 5 foot wing span. This plane is so unique! This is the “Spirit of Africa” paint scheme in this video that I reproduced in every detail for my model. It was fabulous! 

 

I'd give your post two likes if I could.

Don't miss Kermit's interviews with Sergei Sikorsky if you haven't seen them yet.

Kermie also purchased Howard Hughes's Sikorsky S-43 flying boat.

The interviews with the old man are fantastic,  hearing him talk about his father,  the old days of his father's company,  and flying Sikorsky aircraft.  There are a few more.

ps,

https://flightsim.to/file/16471/fantasy-of-flight-fa08

Edited September 15, 20223 yr by Waldo Pepper