14 hours ago, hobart escin said:

Oh my, you're opening a can of worms here, lol.   Didn't you know - everyone is a real type-rated pilot here on the flight simulator forums.   😉  

You people actually think he lied and cheated his way into PMDG's tech consulting/beta team and stole his forum avatar of him in his uniform in a 737 cockpit from someone else? Because he said the gusts are realistic?

Did I open AVSIM or conspiracySIM? 

15 hours ago, hobart escin said:

Oh my, you're opening a can of worms here, lol.   Didn't you know - everyone is a real type-rated pilot here on the flight simulator forums.   😉  

Joke aside actually if think it's not hard to spot imposter on youtube! I mean person can have extensive theoretical knowledge, but juts like this old good book "stick and rudder" can expose a pretender very quickly.

I tell you a story! Once I made experiment inviting my airline friends who never touched any PC sim in their lives , to come to my house and try P3D and XP (at the time). I loaded up airframe their familiar with (MD80, 737, 777, 767) and let them fly couple approaches. What can say! I was very impressed! They nailed each approach all i had to do was helping them dial frequency with mouse (something they don't accustom to do). I did had TM Warthog and CH rudders hookup yet they adjusted pretty quickly. So yes i believe pro is pro can't buy it at the store! LOL

@lwt1971, all fair points. And then there is the question of, “well if you allow customization of certain aspects of live weather, where do you draw the line?” I want live weather, except I want 1/4 mile visibility…or live weather, except clear skies…or live weather except snow instead of rain…etc. From a design perspective it gets ugly very quickly. 

If the option on the table is to globally nerf the airflow/turbulence simulation (which is the whole unsubstantiated? premise of this thread), I’d rather see an option to keep it for those that want it and limit it for those that have a negative experience with it.

Turbulence in particular is one of those things  in real life that just stinks. There is nothing fun about flying in it. I’m not even talking about gusty crosswind landings. At least there is still a fun challenge in making the best landing in a tough situation. Getting beat around for hours in cruise…well that just makes for a long day. So maybe my professional bias is unfaIrly directing my opinion 😉

1 hour ago, threegreen said:

You people actually think he lied and cheated his way into PMDG's tech consulting/beta team and stole his forum avatar of him in his uniform in a 737 cockpit from someone else? Because he said the gusts are realistic?

Did I open AVSIM or conspiracySIM? 

No, Emi, the 737 pilot that works for PMDG is in fact a real pilot rated on the type.   However, he is extremely biased towards there NEVER being anything wrong with either PMDG's products or MSFS2020.   Everything is perfect the way it is, even if it isn't because if it's broken you're wrong.    

I remember one particular quote he make to a commenter on one of his Youtube videos who mentioned the PMDG 737 was losing 2000ft during autopilot engaged turns (a now documented issue).   Emi replied that it only happened in slower speed configurations and wasn't really an issue (typical of this guy).   

Then there  was the time I personally commented on one of his videos that the PMDG 737 autopilot-coupled approach he was flying went almost two dots below the glideslope at the outer marker.   "That's not really an issue....."   

Basically, any issue that could conceivably portray either PMDG or MSFS2020 in a less than stellar light is ALWAYS plausibly denied by Emi.   Why?  He's pushing an agenda to sell PMDG products and is paid very well to do so (he's not making these videos as a hobbyist sharing his professional insight with the community).    A bug in the PMDG 737 can affect sales, therefore there are no bugs.   If MSFS2020 is totally screwed up weather-wise post SU10, most people aren't going to invest in a complex sim like the PMDG 737 if they will have to spend every flight fighting hurricane-force wind gusts at takeoff and landing.    "The new MSFS2020 weather is actually perfect now."  

On and on it goes.  

 

14 minutes ago, hobart escin said:

No, Emi, the 737 pilot that works for PMDG is in fact a real pilot rated on the type.   However, he is extremely biased towards there NEVER being anything wrong with either PMDG's products or MSFS2020.   Everything is perfect the way it is, even if it isn't because if it's broken you're wrong.   

Bull. He made a long video just last week pointing out that the new “weather radar” API that Asobo introduced in SU10 is not fit for purpose and wholly inadequate for emulating any kind of realistic weather radar display. 

Edited September 27, 20223 yr by JRBarrett

43 minutes ago, JRBarrett said:

Bull. He made a long video just last week pointing out that the new “weather radar” API that Asobo introduced in SU10 is not fit for purpose and wholly inadequate for emulating any kind of realistic weather radar display. 

Exactly... and to further negate the B.S spewage, in this very video itself Emi talks about the 737's autopilot:
https://youtu.be/KcNBZ_ZEKXU?t=29 : "I do have to agree with you that PMDG's autopilot does have issues tracking precisely in these weather conditions, and that is exactly the reason why I've just turned it off..."

Best to ignore these characters who're legacy sim stalwarts who seem to dislike everything about MSFS (and apparently PMDG), etc yet stay glued to these forums and keep trying so hard to inject their talking points :)).

Edited September 27, 20223 yr by lwt1971

FlightDeck2Sim has also chimed in on the new gusts in SU 10. I think FlightDeck2Sim likes the gusts too (he says it's much better than before), although he says it still needs some tweaking:

So that's 2 very popular flight sim streamers on Youtube, FlightDeck2Sim, and 737NG Driver, that like the new gusts.

Edited September 27, 20223 yr by abrams_tank

I actually like when people like that talk their nonsense. It just awakens the German Terminator in Jorg lol. His weapon of choice is the fat budget available to him. Feedback like that, even when it is nonsense, just fuels the fire.

1 hour ago, hobart escin said:

No, Emi, the 737 pilot that works for PMDG is in fact a real pilot rated on the type.   However, he is extremely biased towards there NEVER being anything wrong with either PMDG's products or MSFS2020.   Everything is perfect the way it is, even if it isn't because if it's broken you're wrong.    

I remember one particular quote he make to a commenter on one of his Youtube videos who mentioned the PMDG 737 was losing 2000ft during autopilot engaged turns (a now documented issue).   Emi replied that it only happened in slower speed configurations and wasn't really an issue (typical of this guy).   

Then there  was the time I personally commented on one of his videos that the PMDG 737 autopilot-coupled approach he was flying went almost two dots below the glideslope at the outer marker.   "That's not really an issue....."   

Basically, any issue that could conceivably portray either PMDG or MSFS2020 in a less than stellar light is ALWAYS plausibly denied by Emi.   Why?  He's pushing an agenda to sell PMDG products and is paid very well to do so (he's not making these videos as a hobbyist sharing his professional insight with the community).    A bug in the PMDG 737 can affect sales, therefore there are no bugs.   If MSFS2020 is totally screwed up weather-wise post SU10, most people aren't going to invest in a complex sim like the PMDG 737 if they will have to spend every flight fighting hurricane-force wind gusts at takeoff and landing.    "The new MSFS2020 weather is actually perfect now."  

On and on it goes.  

 

Do you have proof that he is paid very well by PMDG, or did you just pull that "fact" out of you know where?

 

40 minutes ago, Krakin said:

I actually like when people like that talk their nonsense. 

This reminds me of a thread opened shortly after the release of the Fenix a320. Many, myself included, pointed at the errors in that planes flight model, which brought a counter reaction by the usual suspects with the inevitable long and winding cut/paste from "someone who knows" ,   videos from this or that pilot claiming it "flies like the real thing" and other "spewage"  belonging to the "B.S file".

Fast forward several months later, Fenix releases a patch in an attempt to address many, if not all, the points that were brought out on that thread! I'm surprised really that none of them started a thread complaining on how Fenix are attempting to "dumb down" their previously brilliant flight model

Edited September 27, 20223 yr by ha5mvo

1 hour ago, ha5mvo said:

 

This reminds me of a thread opened shortly after the release of the Fenix a320. Many, myself included, pointed at the errors in that planes flight model, which brought a counter reaction by the usual suspects with the inevitable long and winding cut/paste from "someone who knows" ,   videos from this or that pilot claiming it "flies like the real thing" and other "spewage"  belonging to the "B.S file".

Fast forward several months later, Fenix releases a patch in an attempt to address many, if not all, the points that were brought out on that thread! I'm surprised really that none of them started a thread complaining on how Fenix are attempting to "dumb down" their previously brilliant flight model

Have to say there is some merit to this post, there certainly is a tendency for just 1 or 2 very vocal posters to base the validity of their argument in large part on  the popularity of the views of someone else, someone they dont even know.

Its down to the individual to decide someones Bona fides of course, but we could do with a bit less of the insulting attitude to those with a different view

Edited September 27, 20223 yr by Sceadu

Why can't Asobo provide us with a slider to adjust the intensity of wind gusts and other variables. Why are we at the mercy of Asobo? 🙄

8 minutes ago, Falconjet112 said:

Why can't Asobo provide us with a slider to adjust the intensity of wind gusts and other variables. Why are we at the mercy of Asobo? 🙄

Who said they can't? Someone has to make the request on the forums first and see if it becomes popular enough for them to see it.

Edited September 27, 20223 yr by Tuskin38

2 hours ago, ha5mvo said:

 

This reminds me of a thread opened shortly after the release of the Fenix a320. Many, myself included, pointed at the errors in that planes flight model, which brought a counter reaction by the usual suspects with the inevitable long and winding cut/paste from "someone who knows" ,   videos from this or that pilot claiming it "flies like the real thing" and other "spewage"  belonging to the "B.S file".

Fast forward several months later, Fenix releases a patch in an attempt to address many, if not all, the points that were brought out on that thread! I'm surprised really that none of them started a thread complaining on how Fenix are attempting to "dumb down" their previously brilliant flight model

I hear what you're saying but what I said was in response to someone saying something factually false so while it does remind you of what you described, it really isn't the same thing.

I did see those debates but for the most part the push back seemed to be against people acting like it was the end of the world. I kept my mouth shut about it because I'm not an A320 pilot and I haven't studied them that much. I am totally dependent on people who know better. 

4 hours ago, ha5mvo said:

 

This reminds me of a thread opened shortly after the release of the Fenix a320. Many, myself included, pointed at the errors in that planes flight model, which brought a counter reaction by the usual suspects with the inevitable long and winding cut/paste from "someone who knows" ,   videos from this or that pilot claiming it "flies like the real thing" and other "spewage"  belonging to the "B.S file".

Fast forward several months later, Fenix releases a patch in an attempt to address many, if not all, the points that were brought out on that thread! I'm surprised really that none of them started a thread complaining on how Fenix are attempting to "dumb down" their previously brilliant flight model

Can you name one flight sim or add on that has never been patched?