November 11, 20223 yr Anyone notice some add-ons are actually getting worse with each new updated compared to what was originally released? Two examples stand out to me: 1. Fenix A320 - Version 1.0.2.104 had great sounds a nice flight model and overall was a great product. With each subsequent update the sounds were reworked for the XBOX gamers among us. Now when in the cockpit it sounds like you're sitting right over the engines as if you're in the cabin. Actually, moving to the cabin still sounds right compared to what you hear in the cockpit. The latest update brighten the cockpit to accommodate some among us who feel cockpits are too dark now. For those of us that don't share this view it looks washed out now. These are just two examples, but the list goes on with this product. Honorable mention would be the flight model that took the product back instead of forward when it comes to flares upon landing. There were some nice advances along the way but overall, what was released originally was better. 2. FSRealistic - This product was great up until v2.0.4. Subsequent release changed the sounds where they don't stand out or toned down to a point the additional effect this product was trying to achieve is no longer there. I know sounds can be subjective but again I feel for those that don't have the early installs of this product. I had to do a reinstall tonight after trying the latest release. I know there's other products people may be aware of that suffer the same scenorio. It seems unfortunately we need to hold on to our old installers if a sweet spot was had with that version. The problem with that is over time those old versions could have compatibility issues with newer updates to MSFS. Sometimes you wish developers could leave well enough alone and/or know when they hit that sweet spot and just update the product as needed. As of now just because there's a new update doesn't mean it's a better version. Caution is needed and a roll back may be in order. I'm seeing this more so now than ever before with our add-ons. I'm interested to hear other's thoughts on other products we have in the community. FS2020 Alienware Aurora R11 10th Gen Intel Core i7 10700F - Windows 11 Home 32GB Ram NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super OC 16GB - Pimax Crystal Light VR
November 11, 20223 yr Probably a slightly hot take but I'm in general agreement with the Fenix plane. I can't really fly it anymore due to constant CTDs. Never had that issue with the first couple versions. Landing is still not right either (when I'm lucky enough to get that far without CTD), as you mentioned. On the contrary, the PMDG 737 has aged like fine wine. Tired of Streetlights everywhere? Try MSFS DarkStreets today!
November 11, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, Dillon said: Anyone notice some add-ons are actually getting worse with each new updated compared to what was originally released? Two examples stand out to me: 1. Fenix A320 - Version 1.0.2.104 had great sounds a nice flight model and overall was a great product. With each subsequent update the sounds were reworked for the XBOX gamers among us. Now when in the cockpit it sounds like you're sitting right over the engines as if you're in the cabin. Actually, moving to the cabin still sounds right compared to what you hear in the cockpit. The latest update brighten the cockpit to accommodate some among us who feel cockpits are too dark now. For those of us that don't share this view it looks washed out now. These are just two examples, but the list goes on with this product. Honorable mention would be the flight model that took the product back instead of forward when it comes to flares upon landing. There were some nice advances along the way but overall, what was released originally was better. 2. FSRealistic - This product was great up until v2.0.4. Subsequent release changed the sounds where they don't stand out or toned down to a point the additional effect this product was trying to achieve is no longer there. I know sounds can be subjective but again I feel for those that don't have the early installs of this product. I had to do a reinstall tonight after trying the latest release. I know there's other products people may be aware of that suffer the same scenorio. It seems unfortunately we need to hold on to our old installers if a sweet spot was had with that version. The problem with that is over time those old versions could have compatibility issues with newer updates to MSFS. Sometimes you wish developers could leave well enough alone and/or know when they hit that sweet spot and just update the product as needed. As of now just because there's a new update doesn't mean it's a better version. Caution is needed and a roll back may be in order. I'm seeing this more so now than ever before with our add-ons. I'm interested to hear other's thoughts on other products we have in the community. I have had the opposite experience with the Fenix A320. I feel it has gotten better and better and I have done a ton of flights with it and all the new upgrade stuff is working really well for me. Lee Lee H i9 13900KF 64GB Ram 24GB RTX 4090
November 11, 20223 yr To each his own .. just like Midnight Music i have finally been able to enjoy flying the Fenix product.. I guess they just can't please everyone. FsRealistic i do not own so no comment on that AMD Ryzen 9800X3D/ Asus ROG Strix B650E F Gaming WiFi / Asrock Taichi 9070XT / 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5 6000 / 2x ADATA XPG 8200 Pro NVME / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 / Seasonic Vertex 1000w PSU / Lian Li LanCool II Mesh Performance / Asus VG34VQL3A / Topping E70 Velvet DAC & L70 Amp /Sennheiser HD660s2 Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke + TCA Sidestick + TFRP Rudders
November 11, 20223 yr Nope. MSFS was never before so good as it is by now. I want to add: Some people seems to search for reasons to complain. Maybe they are bored. I dont know. Edited November 11, 20223 yr by Paladin2005 Regards, Jan Ast Win 11 PC | Ryzen 7800 X3D | RTX 5080 | LG 42 C2 Cockpit 😉 | TrackIR 5 | Octavia IFR-1 | Virpil Alpha on WarBRD, Virpil CM3 Throttle, Virpil Sharka Control Panel | Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo | TM TPM Rudder
November 11, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Midnight Music said: I have had the opposite experience with the Fenix A320. I feel it has gotten better and better and I have done a ton of flights with it and all the new upgrade stuff is working really well for me. Lee Yep, exactly. CASE: Fractal Terra Silver CPU: AMD R5 7800X3D 5.0Ghz RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 GPU: nVidia RTX 4070 Ti SUPER · SSDs: Samsung 990 PRO 2TB M.2 PCIe · PNY XLR8 CS3040 2TB M.2 PCIe · VIDEO: LG-32GK650F QHD 32" 144Hz FREE/G-SYNC · MISC: Thrustmaster TCA Airbus Joystick + Throttle Quadrant · MSFS2024 · Windows 11
November 11, 20223 yr No, i have only seen improvement in both aircraft and the sim this year. AMD Ryzen 7 5800x3d, MSI X570 Pro, 32 gb DDR4 3600 ram, Gigabyte 6800 16gb GPU, 1x 2tb Samsung NvMe , 1x 2tb Sabrent NvME, 1x Crucial 4tb Nvme M2 Drive
November 11, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, Dillon said: Fenix A320 - Version 1.0.2.104 had great sound Maybe that is your perception but I am having a good time with the latest version and I love the sounds. Maybe I am #xbox gamer, who knows Edited November 11, 20223 yr by omarsmak30 AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, 64GB DDR5 6000MHZ RAM, RX7900XT, FreeSync 165hz 1440p display
November 11, 20223 yr The Twotter is a great example of this. Oh wait, I forgot, it was like that from the start.
November 11, 20223 yr 35 minutes ago, Paladin2005 said: Nope. MSFS was never before so good as it is by now. This ! And Fenix is working fine here so well done to the updates.. cheers 😉 08.2024 new PC is online : ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F GAMING WIFI Mainboard, AMD Ryzen™ 9 7950X3D Prozessor, G.Skill DIMM 64 GB DDR5-6000 (2x 32 GB) Dual-Kit, MSI GeForce RTX 4090 VENTUS 3X E 24G OC Grafikkarte, 2x WD Black SN850X NVMe SSD 4 TB - Drive C+D, WD Gold Enterprise Class 12 TB for storage HDD, Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W PC - Power supply, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO CPU Aircooler with 7 Heatpipes, Design Meshify 2 White TG Clear Tint Tower-Case, 3x 4K monitors 2x32 Samsung 1x27 LG 3840x2160, Windows11 Prof. 23H2 - now Windows11 Prof. 25H2 Flightsimulator Hardware: Honeycomb Throttle Bravo, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, Logitech Flight Joke System, XBox Controller, some Thrustmaster stuff, Winwing CDU Panels.
November 11, 20223 yr As for the Fenix, for me at least, it has been getting better and better. It was good from day one, but suffered worse performance than anything else. Now, performance is stellar, and I find myself flying it almost exclusively. (Granted, that is to a significant extent because the Airbus stick and throttle takes up *way* less space than the honeycomb alpha/bravo... 😉 ) Richard 7950x3d | 32Gb 6000mHz RAM | 8Tb NVme | RTX 4090 | MSFS | P3D | XP12
November 11, 20223 yr Don't own the Fenix so I can't really give an opinion. FS Realistic has been getting better and better with each update. I will second the PMDG 737. It's great since release and I still love it. 7800+4090+64ram Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.
November 11, 20223 yr 5 hours ago, kiwikat said: Probably a slightly hot take but I'm in general agreement with the Fenix plane. I can't really fly it anymore due to constant CTDs. Never had that issue with the first couple versions. Landing is still not right either (when I'm lucky enough to get that far without CTD), as you mentioned. On the contrary, the PMDG 737 has aged like fine wine. Completely agree, I fly PMDG and FBW now. AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 4.2 32 gig ram, Nvidia RTX3060 12 gig, Intel 760 SSD M2 NVMe 512 gig, M2NVMe 1Tbt (OS) M2NVMe 2Tbt (MSFS) Crucial MX500 SSD (Backup OS). VR Oculus Quest 2 Windows 11 25H2 YouTube:- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC96wsF3D_h5GzNNJnuDH3WQ 2k+ Videos & Streams BATC and FSFO FB Group:- https://www.facebook.com/groups/1571953959750565 Flight Sim First Officer (FSFOv6) and SoFly Beta Tester Reality Is For People Who Can't Handle Simulation!
November 11, 20223 yr PMDG worsened a bit in the last update especially regarding autopilot and autothrottle behaviour, but I think they are aware and hopefully a fix is coming soon.
November 11, 20223 yr Don’t have the Fenix myself so I’ll have to await the opinion of all those masses of Xbox gamers who are flying it🙃
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