Having seen the full interview, I have to say this guy's body language is not so sus as it seems from the edited version.  The one big issue I have is that he is saying there are lots of senior US intelligence officers who are quite willing to pass on info to others who are not cleared to have it. Guess that explains why the Russians and Chinese got a lot of US IP.. they didnt have to hack it after all... and the news that Mussolini had access to a crashed UFO is news to me.. (That at least explains the Foo fighters.)  How come the Italian UFO has gone under the radar all this time especially as there were public reports at the time.... even the Vatican is supposed to have been in on it.  Getting weirder and weirder. Roswell is starting to look a bit mundane.

Edited June 12, 20232 yr by robb13
typo

46 minutes ago, robb13 said:

Having seen the full interview, I have to say this guy's body language is not so sus as it seems from the edited version.  The one big issue I have is that he is saying there are lots of senior US intelligence officers who are quite willing to pass on info to others who are not cleared to have it. Guess that explains why the Russians and Chinese got a lot of US IP.. they didnt have to hack it after all... and the news that Mussolini had access to a crashed UFO is news to me.. (That at least explains the Foo fighters.)  How come the Italian UFO has gone under the radar all this time especially as there were public reports at the time.... even the Vatican is supposed to have been in on it.  Getting weirder and weirder. Roswell is starting to look a bit mundane.

 

Yes, regarding his body language, the analysis suggested that shaking his head while speaking indicated a possible untruth, but with body language analysis its important to look at baselines, and his baseline is a tendency to shake his head even when stating known facts, so we can't say that's significant. The worlds top 4 body language experts, that have worked for the military and intelligence services, have a channel on YT that assesses video's such as this, hopefully they will take a look at this.

Re the Vatican, yeah, it just doesn't ring true to me, all of this. I still cant get over the "they crash a lot" stuff, if they did crash, such technology would do so rarely, not enough times for 12 to be in their possession. And this "they abandon them" seems like nonsense, what sensible alien would park his hyper advanced technology and then go for a stroll? 

Seems to me that its just all of the previous alien conspiracies' and claims being used here. I guess its possible that something like this is going on, but the information given to him is perhaps a combination of fact and fiction, fact and exaggeration, fact and opinion, fact and speculation.

 

Common sense from the man UFO believers hate.

 

 

 

This is even better.

Mick says... we are told in the interview that alien's are murdering humans, humans have murdered humans to cover it up and that the US has an agreement with alien's and yet... this has been cleared by the government as not top secret and he's been allowed to speak.  😀

 

 

2 hours ago, martin-w said:

Common sense from the man UFO believers hate.

I do love me a good UFO story.  I also detest lies.  The comments for this video are very interesting.

The more I see, the more I think there is a Government Disinformation Campaign, hiding *something* but we don't know what.  Mick West is quite credible.

I totally disbelieve Bob Lazar.  I was designing better spacecraft when I was 12 years old.  I also disbelieve Grusch, he reminds me too much of Richard Doty (do your own research on him).  

I'd love to believe that UFOs are alien spacecraft.  But things like this make me think they're trying to make fools of us all.

Hook

 

Edited June 12, 20232 yr by LHookins

14 minutes ago, LHookins said:

The more I see, the more I think there is a Government Disinformation Campaign, hiding *something* but we don't know what.

 

Could very well be. 

I agree re Lazar. 

24 minutes ago, LHookins said:

 

The more I see, the more I think there is a Government Disinformation Campaign, hiding *something* but we don't know what.  Mick West is quite credible.

I totally disbelieve Bob Lazar.  I was designing better spacecraft when I was 12 years old.  I also disbelieve Grush, he reminds me too much of Richard Doty (do your own research on him).  

I'd love to believe that UFOs are alien spacecraft.  But things like this make me think they're trying to make fools of us all.

Hook

 

 

Edited June 12, 20232 yr by charliearon
added some food!

It would seem that, regardless of the quality of David Grusch's evidence, nothing will change from the public perspective.

Our only hope is for the aliens themselves to make a formal appearance.  So, if any aliens are following this forum topic, I would invite them to consider Saint Paul, Alberta which has the world's first UFO landing pad and a handy visitor information centre.

I should mention this invitation is for the friendly aliens only. Malevolent aliens should proceed to the White House lawn as scheduled..... Sorry!

https://www.travelalberta.com/listings/ufo-landing-pad-20618/ 

Edited June 12, 20232 yr by dmwalker

Regarding the 8 foot aliens in the family's backyard, the family have gone silent and the lad has started a YouTube channel. 🙄

The 8 Foot Aliens was just Raccoons looking over the fence me thinks 🤔

35 minutes ago, Matthew Kane said:

The 8 Foot Aliens was just Raccoons looking over the fence me thinks 🤔

 

Yikes, those mutated 8 foot tall raccoons are a menace. 😡 

4 hours ago, martin-w said:

Regarding the 8 foot aliens in the family's backyard, the family have gone silent and the lad has started a YouTube channel. 🙄

I'm waiting to see if they start a Go Fund Me website to help with their trauma and a Me Too movement...gotta have that.

These are the guys I've been waiting for. 4 of the top behaviour experts on the planet.

 

 

I spent several days watching nothing but body language videos, and as a result I can't watch them now.  Judging from the comments on the video, I'm not alone having problems with body language experts.

I watched for a  while, maybe a half hour, before I had to give up.

"Lip compressions?"  Looked like smugness to me.  I had a friend who did that a lot.  But often he had only a passing acquaintance with the truth.  Does that mean Grusch is lying?  Well, all he really says is, "This is what I was told."  Some of that has apparently been confirmed by other credible people.  But he doesn't talk about any actual physical evidence;  the closest he gets to it are the kind of interesting pictures which we have all seen at one time or another.

I did find some of the other non-body-language information they provided to be useful.

Hook

6 hours ago, LHookins said:

I spent several days watching nothing but body language videos, and as a result I can't watch them now.  Judging from the comments on the video, I'm not alone having problems with body language experts.

Well the truth is, no one can be 100% correct judging body language. And, the only ones that know the truth of what he’s been saying are either the ones who put him up to this, if it’s part of a disinformation campaign, or the ones who gave him this info to see if he’d spill the beans.

One article I read on the matter suggested the later. In other words, the people who feed him the info he’s been speaking of, were told to tell him this to see if he’d come forward and leak it. 

Either way, it’s either true, a disinformation campaign or a set up. Knowing the way the govt works, it’s probably either of the two last choices. If it were true, he’d probably either have mysteriously disappeared by now or have met with an untimely death by car accident, sudden illness or suicide. It is interesting none the less.