3 hours ago, Ron Lefebvre said:

hahh. Looks far, but I guess your right. Still a weird place for it. I don't have rudder pedals so the rudder stays where I place it with my joystick

Not so on the real thing.

Have to check when I am home if the knob moves with my joystick setting.

Still, speaking as an old man, would hate to have to reach for it. Even harder with Trackir.

 

Thanks

Ron

The rudder trim is used to keep the ball centered on the turn coordinator.

Edited August 18, 20232 yr by Bobsk8

In the Justflight Arrows, leave off the AP, and don't use rudder trim. It won't be fun, flying an untrimmed plane. 

On the Warthog throttle there are two momentary contact toggle switches side by side, labled IGN and APU. I use one for left trim one for right. They snap back down when released.

Below those two toggles is another toggle that is not momentary. It stays up or down after you release it. When it's up, then the two toggles above are fast and repeating trims. When it's down, then the same two toggles above it are now slow and non repeating trims. One tiny trim input for each flick of the toggle above.

There's no way I want to fly Arrows, or most GA planes, with the AP off, while  not having a good  set of rudder trims.

7 hours ago, Ron Lefebvre said:

oh, YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDIING ME. I have been using trackIR for a month or two now and did not know about the pause tracking.

You have no idea how much I love you right now.

For the rudder. my twist broke last week so I have temporarily added joystick buttons. So if I push it left it stays there until I center it.

and no the knob has nothing to do with the pedal movement.

Thanks

 

Ron

 

F9 also is a very usefull button when you have to fiddle with tablets or electronic navigation displays. It makers it far easier to hit the right spot with your mouse!

4 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

The rudder trim is used to keep the ball centered on the turn coordinator.

That's not true Rob, just in games... IRL it is used to move a small tab in the rudder, that deflects to aerodynamically create a moment in the rudder hinge(s).

Games draw those balls in a so called "turn coordinator" so that kids can try to step on them... It's more like bringing soccer to flight simulation so that you can have the best of two world.

Real pilots, pilots with guts use a string instead!

Some real world pilots believe they're stepping on the ball, and they can live their pilot lives believing that... 

10 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

Then it wouldn't be a Comanche..

Oh ... you can get them - Precise Flight make a FAA approved kit - but they are going to cost you:

https://preciseflight.com/product/speedbrakes-for-piper-pa24-pa30-pa39/

https://drive.google.com/file/d/13uSUq-tymHWrisNbM3zvsl3uaP6IQqad/view?usp=drive_link

Edited August 18, 20232 yr by Glenn Fitzpatrick

11 hours ago, Ron Lefebvre said:

oh, YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDIING ME. I have been using trackIR for a month or two now and did not know about the pause tracking.

You have no idea how much I love you right now.

For the rudder. my twist broke last week so I have temporarily added joystick buttons. So if I push it left it stays there until I center it.

and no the knob has nothing to do with the pedal movement.

Thanks

 

Ron

 

You're quite welcome. You're not the only one that has been using Track IR and is oblivious to this feature. I have lost count of the times I have pointed it out over the last 10 or so years. I find it unusable to use without it and flight sim unusable without Track IR.

Some time ago Asobo released an update to MSFS that broke this pause feature of Track IR. Or rather, when you did pause it then MSFS would detect it as off and then centre the view forward and centre making it utterly useless. I couldn't fly until they fixed this. It was then that I really became aware that most users of this device had no idea this feature existed because I got into several arguments with users who claimed there was nothing wrong with the function of it within MSFS during that period when it was clearly unusable to me and anyone else that knew of this critical feature.

Sorry to here about your rudder woes but I can't see how you can effectively use a rudder with buttons and the kind of movement they will cause in the sim. You're better off using autorudder in the sim settings but I have read that it doesn't work with the A2A Comanche. Best to aim for a joystick replacement or some pedals which I'm sure you're well aware of. Although, easier said than done for many of us in the current economic climate, I know.

4 hours ago, jcomm said:

That's not true Rob, just in games... IRL it is used to move a small tab in the rudder, that deflects to aerodynamically create a moment in the rudder hinge(s).

Games draw those balls in a so called "turn coordinator" so that kids can try to step on them... It's more like bringing soccer to flight simulation so that you can have the best of two world.

Real pilots, pilots with guts use a string instead!

Some real world pilots believe they're stepping on the ball, and they can live their pilot lives believing that... 

We are talking about flying a GA aircraft, not a glider or a helicopter with a string. First one or two lessons in an aircraft is to center the ball with the rudder pedals ( coordinated turns), if you can't keep the ball centered without contsant rudder pressure, use some rudder trim. Yeah, hang a string on a Comanche, maybe hang it on the prop.. LOL  What a joke..

Edited August 18, 20232 yr by Bobsk8

13 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

We are talking about flying a GA aircraft, not a glider or a helicopter with a string. First one or two lessons in an aircraft is to center the ball with the rudder pedals ( coordinated turns), if you can't keep the ball centered without contsant rudder pressure, use some rudder trim. Yeah, hang a string on a Comanche, maybe hang it on the prop.. LOL  What a joke..

On a Comanche the strings are usually hanging out of the wing tip tanks Bob. A2A is aware of it and will released a patch anytime soon.

I am totally lost by this conversation.  But anyway, in light of the responses, does anyone think the thread title - "Flying Brick" - is a bit unfair?

Edited August 18, 20232 yr by bobcat999

1 hour ago, jcomm said:

On a Comanche the strings are usually hanging out of the wing tip tanks Bob. A2A is aware of it and will released a patch anytime soon.

Pictures please, or is this something you saw in a Bugs Bunny cartoon? BTW, what patch are  you talking about, a link would be informative?

Edited August 18, 20232 yr by Bobsk8

46 minutes ago, bobcat999 said:

I am totally lost by this conversation.  But anyway, in light of the responses, does anyone think the thread title - "Flying Brick" - is a bit unfair?

I agree.  Just don't know how to change the title.

28 minutes ago, diajohn said:

I agree.  Just don't know how to change the title.

Yes, time limit expired now, so only a mod could do it, at your request. 
I have no association with A2A, but I have found the plane to be excellent, and I wouldn't like the title to put people off the aircraft!  

Edited August 18, 20232 yr by bobcat999

1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

Pictures please, or is this something you saw in a Bugs Bunny cartoon? BTW, what patch are  you talking about, a link would be informative?

C'mon Bob, you surely glimpsed it was me joking, right ?

BTW, even most gliders have TCs, although we leave'em OFF to save battery and use the string instead...

 

Disregard

Edited August 18, 20232 yr by Rimshot

3 hours ago, diajohn said:

I agree.  Just don't know how to change the title.

I fixed it for ya.