1 hour ago, blueshark747 said:

Go figure....MS/Asobo put in much more effort trying to erase any efforts made by us tweaking the exe than actually helping their customers having issues with SU13.

Total overzealous moderation in Biology's tweak thread removing any trace of exe tweaking posts, but crickets and straight up abandonment in the SU13 troubleshooting thread with customers begging for help....

Official forum staff are super garbage.....always have been!

I don’t disagree in the slightest. This is why I get so frustrated with the sim. It’s far from perfect, and they don’t help the situation in the slightest. Maybe they should have a dedicated team to deal with bugs, and customer facing issues, and general issues with the sim. Some more transparency. 
 

1 hour ago, blueshark747 said:

Go figure....MS/Asobo put in much more effort trying to erase any efforts made by us tweaking the exe than actually helping their customers having issues with SU13.

Total overzealous moderation in Biology's tweak thread removing any trace of exe tweaking posts, but crickets and straight up abandonment in the SU13 troubleshooting thread with customers begging for help....

Official forum staff are super garbage.....always have been!

They are just Microsoft's Political Commissar's. 
They don't really have any technical ability to help anyone, and they shut-down any discussion that may be a bit 'awkward'. 
I wouldn't expect anything else from them really.

It is obvious that even during the Twitch Sessions, Jayne has already discussed with them what questions she will ask, as they don't want to get questions they don't want to answer.

What happened to any communication about the tile swapping issue, or the DX12 problems?  Too difficult to answer?  Probably not, but they just don't want to be asked those kind of questions.  I have worked for some big organisations, and was a lacky myself, so I know how it works, and we shouldn't be fooled in any way.

A lot of it is just a chance to hype their marketing, and close down any discussion on difficult issues. 
Just tell people everything is rosy and will be even better very soon.  Just like all of our politicians really.  

The thing is though, on the official forum, it is their game - their rules, just like any forum, so there is nothing that can be done about it. 
It is the other forum members that make it, and they are the most helpful of course.
Here at Avsim, the moderators have helped people quite a lot at times.

Edited October 2, 20232 yr by bobcat999

18 minutes ago, bobcat999 said:

Just tell people everything is rosy and will be even better very soon.  Just like all of our politicians really. 

What did I say, several times over the last 2 years. 😄 

7 hours ago, blueshark747 said:

Go figure....MS/Asobo put in much more effort trying to erase any efforts made by us tweaking the exe

Because they don't want people breaking their installation.

6 hours ago, bobcat999 said:

and they shut-down any discussion that may be a bit 'awkward'.

they have to, otherwise people might claim they are entitled to previous similar precedence. tamper with Microsoft's best kept secrets (code, protection algorithms, authentication, gaming service), and you're gone. no comparison to Malware Labs who shipped malware to paying customers in the name of anti piracy measures.

principiis obsta

Edited October 2, 20232 yr by turbomax

21 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

Because they don't want people breaking their installation.

That´s why I´m waiting for the official change of sky colors. It does looks amazing but I know and accept my limitations about technical computer shi.... stuff. 

1 hour ago, Tuskin38 said:

Because they don't want people breaking their installation.

SU13 actually BROKE our installations for 2 days straight....🤦‍♂️

No need to fear an exe hex tweak and the possibility of system instability after dealing with the disastrous SU13 install 🤣

 

Edited October 2, 20232 yr by blueshark747

SU14 Beta should start around early November I would think, to give about 6 weeks of testing before the holiday.
I am looking forward to more fixes / improvements as well as the atmospheric changes.

10 hours ago, bobcat999 said:

SU14 Beta should start around early November I would think, to give about 6 weeks of testing before the holiday.
I am looking forward to more fixes / improvements as well as the atmospheric changes.

Yeah, i can wait.

I think it's always best to wait at least 12-24 hours after a SU as a precaution. I've done this for most sim updates and have never had any issues.

1 hour ago, DModjo said:

I think it's always best to wait at least 12-24 hours after a SU as a precaution. I've done this for most sim updates and have never had any issues.

While I do the same, that's still not an excuses for SUs....

This is a product that customers PAID for to patch and install correctly.

Edited October 3, 20232 yr by blueshark747

On 10/2/2023 at 9:39 PM, blueshark747 said:

SU13 actually BROKE our installations for 2 days straight....🤦‍♂️

No need to fear an exe hex tweak and the possibility of system instability after dealing with the disastrous SU13 install 🤣

 

But that was THEIR responsibilty, THEIR mess.

People fiddling around in encrypted exe files because they can't wait a couple of months is the customers responsibilty. And they understandably don't want to troubleshoot stuff they did't break themselves.

 

And by the way: What exactly did they break with the SU13 installations? I didn't experience any issues.

Edited October 3, 20232 yr by Farlis

28 minutes ago, Farlis said:

But that was THEIR responsibilty, THEIR mess.

People fiddling around in encrypted exe files because they can't wait a couple of months is the customers responsibilty. And they understandably don't want to troubleshoot stuff they did't break themselves.

 

And by the way: What exactly did they break with the SU13 installations? I didn't experience any issues.

Anyone with pc gaming/modding experience knows why MS/Asobo has that firm stance on tweaking an exe and we aren't really serious in blaming them for said stance.

It's an inside joke, there isn't anything to prove nor defend here...

As far as the SU13 issues if you really have to ask, just don't worry about it.

 

 

 

Edited October 3, 20232 yr by blueshark747

Made an in-memory patch which requires no modification to the original game files. Just drag and drop, no replacements.

If anyone is interested here is the open-source GitHub repo: https://github.com/drunkwinter/MSFS2020.ARPC

Game. Changing.