Glad the ATR is getting some treatment. 

2 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

I could be mistaken, but I think Jorg said sim update 16 would be the last one before 2024 releases. If you do the math, if there’s no longer gaps than normal, SU15 would be February, and SU16 would be April.

So 2024 will not release before then 

At this point, it's safe to say Jorg and the team know what the release date is since Jorg alluded to Phil Spencer killing him if he spilled the beans. I take that as a sign that development is going reletvely well. What they need to do now is get the SDK in the hands of 3PDs ASAP. 

9 hours ago, Saffa_Jake812 said:

It's unfortunate that they misunderstood the question about cloud turbulence. It sounded like they interpreted the question as a general turbulence issue and not cloud turbulence which in my view is one of the most important features that are lacking.

Well it's not the first time they've not fully understood the question, when Seb started talking about Turbulence in the Northern hemisphere right now being less because of the weather I #facepalmed as this is a long standing issue, so reports on the official forum come from the summer as well.

But he did (as said above) state he tried on Spain, but I heard that as a broader response to the visibility on live weather clouds visibility which is severely lacking compared to presets which he accepted needed to be looked at.

 

Edited November 30, 20232 yr by MarcG

Wow!

Lot's of good news including the backporting of some new features in ground physics.

 

Edited November 30, 20232 yr by jcomm

I like how they're promising so much and still not charging us an extra $20 😏

24 minutes ago, Krakin said:

I like how they're promising so much and still not charging us an extra $20 😏

If there's something they can't be blamed for, for the good and for the bad(*) it's for their pricing...

I believe there was never a flight simulator, well after maybe FS4, so easy to maintain at a high level of scenery fidelity for such a basic investment.

I am VERY critic about MFS, and even dropped it (won't probably last much after SU15 or SU14 final are released for me to get back to install it 🙂 though...), and I try to support myself in my decision, resisting every day to reinstall it, and enjoying as much as I can P3D v5.4 and v6, BUT ! Heck !!!! Bummer !!!! Great Balls of Fire !!!! These guys spoil their users almost every month since release ... It's as "dangerous" as the Q* approach of the emergent AI technology... after all, Open AI is in the boat too 🙂

Guys, MFS 2020 users, you have good reasons to feel Happy !

(*) I mean, "bad" for lot's of developers that suffered from this "revolution"... But, with time, I believe there will again be space for all, and motivation for all !  

I would particularly like to see HiFi being able to cooperate with ASOBO in a better weather modelling system.

Edited November 30, 20232 yr by jcomm

24 minutes ago, Krakin said:

I like how they're promising so much and still not charging us an extra $20 😏

What I like about Asobo is that even though MSFS2024 may not have been their idea (I'm going to make an uneducated and baseless assumption that MS wants a new sim), I absolutely love how they've managed to make sure that MSFS2020 continues development and even gets features from 2024 rolled into 2020 whenever possible.

It's the sort of thing you wouldn't necessarily appreciate unless it wasn't happening.

15 minutes ago, WestAir said:

What I like about Asobo is that even though MSFS2024 may not have been their idea (I'm going to make an uneducated and baseless assumption that MS wants a new sim), I absolutely love how they've managed to make sure that MSFS2020 continues development and even gets features from 2024 rolled into 2020 whenever possible.

It's the sort of thing you wouldn't necessarily appreciate unless it wasn't happening.

Indeed ! 

When MFS 2024 was mentioned for the first time I thought this was a case of "Osborne Effect" after the company Osborne Computer Corporation, which was one of the first companies to produce portable computers in the early 1980s. The company announced the upcoming release of a new computer model, the Osborne Executive, which was more advanced than its current model, the Osborne. The announcement led to a significant drop in sales of the "Osborne 1" model, and the company eventually went bankrupt.

I thought to myself that they were "mad" making such a revelation with an apparently still long way to go with FS 2020, and that it might mean that we could expect a considerable drop in the rate and quality of their updates for the present version of MFS... and it just coincided with my decision to spend $60 in the upgrade from the Standard to the Premium Deluxe version, which left me really angry ... Well, I was terribly wrong 🙂

Edited November 30, 20232 yr by jcomm
typos and completeness....

47 minutes ago, WestAir said:

What I like about Asobo is that even though MSFS2024 may not have been their idea

It was their idea. They were hitting the limits of what they could do with the current version of the sim.

Edited November 30, 20232 yr by Tuskin38

As great as it is to get partial backports of the new enhancements in v2024 (i.e. ground handling physics), can't wait to get my hands on v2024 to get the full experience. Really really hope they can release it by next summer. Per what Jorg said they already know the release date it looks like, and like Krakin said hopefully they'll start to reveal SDK and aircraft/scenery development details/tools to 3rd party devs soon.. and I'm not gonna complain if we get more tidbits of leaks/info throughout that process 🙂 

They need to fix the clouds. Even with the cfg hacks the edges are brutal. Nothing worse than looking out the window admiring the ground scenery only to have the immersion smashed to a pulp as soon as you lift up your head.

Good to see helicopters get some love too.

Their answer about historical weather could not be more confusing.

I don't see how is that complex, it's storing the previous 24h on the server, then playback/stream data from set time offset and X/Y/Z position 

6 hours ago, Garys said:

They need to fix the clouds. Even with the cfg hacks the edges are brutal. Nothing worse than looking out the window admiring the ground scenery only to have the immersion smashed to a pulp as soon as you lift up your head.

They look fine to me

I like the sounds of the ground handling!