March 6, 20242 yr 39 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: I guess he will be happy if they change their mind, and raise the price back to $60.. LOL LOL! 😄 Best regards,--Anders Bermann-- ____________________Scandinavian VAPilot-ID: SAS2471
March 6, 20242 yr I think it's bettter to add a link or a screenshot than a 9-minute video: https://www.beyondatc.net/pricing After reading the headline, I was thinking "see? you were actually able to charge $30 instead of $60", but after reading all the changes, I'll just say "what an upgrade! 😄". If performance is at the same level as PF3 with the same AI traffic levels I usually have (70-100 planes, mostly static), I'm in. I had to ditch FSHud because of the high FPS impact for the little traffic it generated. Edited March 6, 20242 yr by Luis Hernandez Best regards,Luis Hernández Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.
March 6, 20242 yr Looking forward to it, and the new pricing is most welcome.... .....but only if those "guest voices" are optional and de-selectable!!!!! I would literally not buy this product if it involved having to listen to 'YouTubers' being ATCOs. Sorry, but what an utterly awful, gimmicky idea. Appreciate I may be with the minority on this, but I spat my coffee out when I saw (and heard) those "guest voices". Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • Bluesky Grumman AA5 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000Former PPL IR, grounded by diabetes. Now UK NPPL(M)
March 6, 20242 yr Assuming this will release within the next three months +, can we start talking about solid headsets with the mics? Any recommendations? Jacek G. Ryzen 5800X3D | Asus RTX4090 OC | 64gb DDR4 3600 | Asus ROG Strix X570E | HX1000w | Fractal Design Torrent RGB | AOC AGON 49' Curved QHD |
March 6, 20242 yr 19 minutes ago, JYW said: would literally not buy this product if it involved having to listen to 'YouTubers' being ATCOs. Sorry, but what an utterly awful, gimmicky idea How would you know when you’re listening to one if you’ve never heard them speak before? Edited March 6, 20242 yr by Tuskin38
March 6, 20242 yr 2 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said: How would you know when you’re listening to one if you’ve never heard them speak before? Who said I'd never heard them speak before? I've heard every one of them speak. Do people really want YouTube FS celebrities as their ATCOs in the sim? Maybe some do. And that's fine - as long as those who don't want that 'vibe' can turn them off. Edited March 6, 20242 yr by JYW Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • Bluesky Grumman AA5 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000Former PPL IR, grounded by diabetes. Now UK NPPL(M)
March 6, 20242 yr where did you see the guest voices thing? I don’t see it on their website Edited March 6, 20242 yr by Tuskin38
March 6, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, Luis Hernandez said: I think it's bettter to add a link or a screenshot than a 9-minute video: https://www.beyondatc.net/pricing After reading the headline, I was thinking "see? you were actually able to charge $30 instead of $60", but after reading all the changes, I'll just say "what an upgrade! 😄". If performance is at the same level as PF3 with the same AI traffic levels I usually have (70-100 planes, mostly static), I'm in. I had to ditch FSHud because of the high FPS impact for the little traffic it generated. fs hud is almost a scam they have ego devs who don't take any feedback to improve the atc, definitely one of the worst addons i ever bought
March 6, 20242 yr 33 minutes ago, JYW said: Looking forward to it, and the new pricing is most welcome.... .....but only if those "guest voices" are optional and de-selectable!!!!! I would literally not buy this product if it involved having to listen to 'YouTubers' being ATCOs. Sorry, but what an utterly awful, gimmicky idea. Appreciate I may be with the minority on this, but I spat my coffee out when I saw (and heard) those "guest voices". I think the level of configurability that BATC already offers with it's voices I'm 99% sure the voices are optional for those who don't want them. I don't see them being forced. Personally I see nothing wrong with it, it's a fun way to loosen up and hear a familiar voice, to each their own.
March 6, 20242 yr Wow this is great news. With previous pricing I had already decided to forgo premium. Now I’ll give it a try. Though I must say the basic voices sound very good in their own right. Dave Current System (Running at 4k): ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F, Ryzen 7800X3D, RTX 5090, 55" Samsung Q80T, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & Stick, Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant & Add-on, VirtualFly Ruddo+, TQ6+ and Yoko+, GoFlight MCP-PRO and EFIS, Skalarki FCU and MCDU
March 6, 20242 yr I hope they preview some more stuff soon, like AI interaction, flight guidance, etc. Don't care too much the price honestly, I finally want good ATC.
March 6, 20242 yr Of course this is good news for the user. I think it is now a must buy for most of us. Now my only fear is that they will recover their costs. Of course, they will make a killing with the initial purchase. £30 multiplied with a large number of buyers will make the $ flows. But after the initial purchase, they will need a good number of users buying premium packs to pay for the servers. Now, with the basic voice model included in the initial purchase, it remains to be seen if enough users will use the premium voice model? I'm not that sure.
March 6, 20242 yr I have never seen so much discussion about a price of a product that has not even been released yet. Do we know if it is even good? Last demos I saw ATC vectoring was off and most importantly we have not seen the 'live' traffic integration and how ATC handles it.... The developer seems committed and motivated, but will the product be what it promises?? What about people with marginal internet connections/machines? What about frame rates at busy airports? What about the realism of the 'live' traffic? I am skeptical! We quickly forget how many msfs add-ons have been released, never really 'finished' to a point that is just one big disappointment! If it is a good product, I think it will find its niche market at almost 'any' price. Most of what is said on the Internet may be the same thing they shovel on the regular basis at the local barn.
March 6, 20242 yr 6 minutes ago, Silicus said: I have never seen so much discussion about a price of a product that has not even been released yet. Do we know if it is even good? Last demos I saw ATC vectoring was off and most importantly we have not seen the 'live' traffic integration and how ATC handles it.... The developer seems committed and motivated, but will the product be what it promises?? What about people with marginal internet connections/machines? What about frame rates at busy airports? What about the realism of the 'live' traffic? I am skeptical! We quickly forget how many msfs add-ons have been released, never really 'finished' to a point that is just one big disappointment! If it is a good product, I think it will find its niche market at almost 'any' price. With all the bickering about this future product, I bet the developer wished he had come up with something else, not related to flight simming. 😏
March 6, 20242 yr 12 minutes ago, Silicus said: I have never seen so much discussion about a price of a product that has not even been released yet. Do we know if it is even good? Last demos I saw ATC vectoring was off and most importantly we have not seen the 'live' traffic integration and how ATC handles it.... It's not perfect, look on youtube their video from LAS to SAN. They are cleared to take off on 08L while some traffic are cleared to take off on 26R The video is 8 months old so unless it improved, I think it is not possible to overcome the way msfs simulate the traffic. For sure, way better and immersive than the default ATC. But not perfect.
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