April 2, 20242 yr See new research below - hopefully there will be no more threads like this! (Irony of this one fully accepted!) Some people ‘see more per second’ than others, scientists find New research suggests some individuals have an innate advantage over others in high-speed situations such as ball gamesFumbling a catch or mis-hitting a ball in tennis may be more likely for certain people, scientists say after discovering huge differences in the speed humans view moving images.Trinity College Dublin conducted experiments to show that the speed of visual perception varies widely, meaning some people can “see” more information every second than others. Scientists used a “flicker test”, which flashes a light at increasing speeds until it is blinking so quickly it appears completely still. When they asked participants at what point the light had stopped flickering, some said they saw a steady light at just 35 blinks per second, while others still saw flashing at more than 60 flickers per second. The study, published in the journal Plos One, suggests some people have an innate advantage in certain settings where response time is crucial, such as ball sports. With more information packed into each second it would be easier to catch a ball, or carry out an act with precision timing. Kevin Firth - AMD 9800X3D; Asus Prime X670E; 64Gb Cas30 6000 DDR5; RTX5090; AutoFPS
April 2, 20242 yr Usually, and by pure coincidence, those who have spent significant amounts of money on the very latest hardware swear they can tell the difference. I can't 😊 9950X3D - X870E Aorus Master- TUF 5090 OC - 64GB DDR5 - 1500W HXi - Titan 360 RX LCD - 9100 Pro x 2 - LG 45GX950A - HOTAS Warthog with Ava Base
April 2, 20242 yr 3 minutes ago, St Mawgan said: those who have spent significant amounts of money on the very latest hardware swear they can tell the difference. I can't 😊 Or, those not having enough money to buy proper hardware continue to to claim that the human eye can anyway not see more than 30FPS 🤣 Greetings, Chris AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024
April 2, 20242 yr Just now, AnkH said: Or, those not having enough money to buy proper hardware continue to to claim that the human eye can anyway not see more than 30FPS 🤣 Again, pure coincidence 😉 9950X3D - X870E Aorus Master- TUF 5090 OC - 64GB DDR5 - 1500W HXi - Titan 360 RX LCD - 9100 Pro x 2 - LG 45GX950A - HOTAS Warthog with Ava Base
April 2, 20242 yr In MSFS, yes, but only when panning, in racing games and FPS shooters, for sure. Edited April 2, 20242 yr by Ixoye System: I ASRock X670E | AMD 7800X3D | 64Gb DDR5 6000 | RTX 4090 | 2TB NVMe | Seasonic Vertex 1000W I LG Ultra Gear 34 UW I
April 2, 20242 yr 3 minutes ago, Ixoye said: In MSFS, yes, but only when panning, in racing games and FPS shooters, for sure. I can clearly feel the difference between 30 and 60 FPS without panning when landing the aircraft. Alvega CPU: AMD 7800X3D | COOLER: Cooler Master MasterLiquid 240L Core ARGB | GPU: RTX 4070 TI Super 16GB OC | Mobo: ASUS TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI |RAM: 32 GB Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR5 6000MHz PC5-48000 2x16GB CL36 | SSDs: WD Black SN770 2TB NVMe SSD (WIN11), WD Black SN850X SSD 2 TB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 NVMe (MSFS), Crucial MX500 2TB (Other stuff) | CASE: Forgeon Arcanite ARGB Mesh Tower ATX White | Power Supply: Forgeon Bolt PSU 850W 80+ Gold Full Modular White
April 2, 20242 yr 5 minutes ago, Alvega said: I can clearly feel the difference between 30 and 60 FPS without panning when landing the aircraft. I'm believe you, I have never fly MSFS lower than 40fps, tried 30 ones, but gave up when panning at the gate. System: I ASRock X670E | AMD 7800X3D | 64Gb DDR5 6000 | RTX 4090 | 2TB NVMe | Seasonic Vertex 1000W I LG Ultra Gear 34 UW I
April 2, 20242 yr Let the debate games begin : 🍿🍔 🥤 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
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April 2, 20242 yr 6 minutes ago, GSalden said: Let the debate games begin : 🍿🍔 🥤 Why ? There's no debate, really 😉 The difference is clearly visible, in simulator or FPS games. The test with just flickering light is a bit strange I think. A moving (but not blurred) picture would be much more relevant. Edited April 2, 20242 yr by Daube
April 2, 20242 yr 12 fps but SMOOTH as butter! Jokes aside, in all videogames i always found it pretty evident going from 30 fps to 60 fps and viceversa Chock 1.1: "The only thing that whines louder than a jet engine is a flight simmer."
April 2, 20242 yr I've used 30 FPS for years in FSX and then P3d, also Xplane and was more than happy. However. now I'm using frame generation and my FPS is locked to 60Hz, my monitor refresh rate, I can no longer tolerate how laggy 30 FPS is. I went back to 30 FPS the other day in MSFS just to try it and it was really bad (to me) when panning, fine looking forwards out of cockpit but panning/head movement was too laggy. i7 12700K , DDR4 64GB RAM @3600MHz, Asus Z690-Plus D4 MB, Gainward 4090 RTX Graphics, 850W Corsair PSU, Kraken AIO watercooler, Nvme 1TB ssd, 1TB ssd, 500GB ssd.
April 2, 20242 yr I can quite easily control a simulated airliner at 30fps. Whether the image would look slightly smoother at 60fps is not something that concerns me. I just see it as headroom to increase the level of detail. Edited April 2, 20242 yr by Christopher Low Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
April 2, 20242 yr Don't see any difference Cheers, Ed MSFS2020 Steam // Rig: Corsair Graphite 760T Full Tower - ASUS MBoard Maximus XII Hero Z490 - CPU Intel i9-10900K - 64GB RAM - MSI RTX2080 Super 8GB - [1xNVMe M.2 1TB + 1xNVMe M.2 2TB (Samsung)] + [1xSSD 1TB + 1xSSD 2TB (Crucial)] + [1xSSD 1TB (Samsung)] + 1 HDD Seagate 2TB + 1 HDD Seagate External 4TB - Monitor LG 29UC97C UWHD Curved - PSU Corsair RM1000x // Thrustmaster FCS & MS XBOX Controllers
April 2, 20242 yr I hesitated to open the thread (not again !) 😄. But Kevin brings an interesting point of view. Anyway, now I expect any time soon,somebody telling us that FPS rate is not as important as the smoothness .You gotta stick to tradition. Dominique Simming since 1981 - [email protected] GHz with 16 GB of RAM and a 1080 with 8 GB VRAM running a 27" @ 2560*1440 - Windows 10 - Warthog HOTAS - MFG pedals - MSFS Standard version with Steam
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