April 8, 20242 yr Apps like StartAllBack and ExplorerPatcher which overhaul the taskbar and start button in Windows 11 to make it easier to use. Apparently these will be blocked later this year in the yearly update to Windows 11. In fact, it may produce a black screen when you boot Windows (no desktop). This happened to me several months ago in the update to Win 11 22H2 (I had both StartAllBack and ExplorerPatcher installed). It took me half a day to correct the issue a year ago or so. Looks like Microsoft has announced they will block these kind of apps in 24H2. 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
April 9, 20242 yr I pray for the day that SteamOS or similar in magnitude, launches their PC version with VR support.
April 9, 20242 yr Author The taskbar is like the Windows 10 version, except it's crippled. These apps were designed to uncripple it. But looks like Microsoft will be blocking them out now. I use Start11 (Tom Allensworth used to recommend an older Start8 version). It's $10 by Stardock Software. 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
April 9, 20242 yr No worries, folks. There does seem to be a simple workaround that work in the current Windows 11 24H2 beta. You can sneak past the block and install StartAllBack or ExplorerPatcher just by renaming the program's downloaded executable file. 😉 - PC Hardware: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D // Asus ROG Crosshair X870E HERO // 2x32Gb Corsair Dominator Titanium DDR5 6000MT/s CL30 // ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC Edition // 4Tb Corsair NVMe M.2 MP600 // Corsair 1600W PSU Samsung Odyssey Arc 55" curved 165 Hz monitor. - Simulator Hardware: VIRPIL Constellation Alpha Prime + VIRPIL VPC Universal Control Panel - #3 + MOZA AY210 Force Feedback Yoke + WINWING URSA MINOR 32 Throttle & PAC Metal + WINWING SKYWALKER Metal Rudder Pedals + WINWING Airbus FCU & EFIS + WINWING Boeing 3N PAP + WINWING MCDU-32 + WINWING PFP-4 + WINWING PFP 3-N + WINWING PFP-7.
April 9, 20242 yr 5 hours ago, Bobsk8 said: Yet another reason to stay with W10. I went back to win 10 so I can still use my Reverb G2 VR before win11 Bricks it Jason Richards
April 9, 20242 yr Classic Shell. Been using it since w8 to make windows look like w7 classic design. In w10 MS stopped it autostarting but clicking config button got it working. In w11 pro it works perfectly again. Love my start menu on left and all apps visible! Stop telling me how to work Bill!! I have a w10 server workstation locked down to a 2017 build 1609 I think. Every time I turn it on it works EXACTLY as it always does nothing goes missing nothing gets broken or removed no garbage gets added. Decent virus and spyware aps for the win. So ironic Ms plans to make you PAY for w10 'maintenance' soon! Russell Gough SE London
April 9, 20242 yr 8 hours ago, Fielder said: Stardock Software I’m using Fences to organize my gazillion desktop icons, hope that won’t be blocked! Don’t want to start a word not allowed discussion. But I used MacOS exclusively for several years. And I really prefer the way Win can be customized in comparison. Edited April 9, 20242 yr by Cpt_Piett 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5
April 9, 20242 yr 7 hours ago, jason74 said: I went back to win 10 so I can still use my Reverb G2 VR before win11 Bricks it I keep an ISO image of the current windows 11 version 23H2, so it can always be restored to work with my Reverb G2 VR. Current release: Windows 11 2023 Update l Version 23H2 https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11/ Edited April 9, 20242 yr by turbomax AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
April 9, 20242 yr 3 hours ago, sloppysmusic said: Love my start menu on left I'm using stock Win 11 and have my start menu on the left, just like in Win 10. It's a configurable option. My desktop in Win 11:- Unless I've misunderstood what you meant? Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
April 9, 20242 yr 13 minutes ago, JYW said: I'm using stock Win 11 and have my start menu on the left, just like in Win 10. It's a configurable option. My desktop in Win 11:- Unless I've misunderstood what you meant? That's the W11 start menu. It brings up a square grid of MS recommended apps. Top right you can show all apps but it's messy IMO and others. You CAN configure it of you know how but.... W7 start menu was JUST all the programs you installed, or faves if you wanted it that way. There are plenty of sites explaining the difference. Here are just a couple. Ive been using windows as a tech support/it consultant since 3.1 so I have some favorite interfaces over the years! https://download.cnet.com/classic-shell/3000-2072_4-75553853.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Shell https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-to-replace-the-windows-11-start-menu/ above simplest graphic explanation of differences. Russell Gough SE London
April 9, 20242 yr Non issue for me. Should be moved. 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 96GB DDR5 | 4K G-Sync | Win11 Pro
April 9, 20242 yr Avsim. The home of first world problems. 9950X3D - X870E Aorus Master- TUF 5090 OC - 64GB DDR5 - 1500W HXi - Titan 360 RX LCD - 9100 Pro x 2 - LG 45GX950A - HOTAS Warthog with Ava Base
April 9, 20242 yr 14 minutes ago, St Mawgan said: Avsim. The home of first world problems. It's a first world hobby for sure! 😄 Russell Gough SE London
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