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A miracle ? LSFG (Lossless Scaling Frame Generation)

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13 minutes ago, MySound said:

Yeah, just tried this App with the settings given in here (3080 ti, 5900X, 4K) and basically get now 15 FPS instead of 50 without the App.

Nice.......

Ouch that sucks 😣

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  • A little offtopic here but this software works wonders in xplane 12 too. From 40fps to 100fps with all settings maxed out at 4k. It's pure magic. I am speechless honestly.

1 hour ago, GSalden said:

 I prefer Live traffic over Flightplan based traffic. Where they are in real life I see them too. Not where MSFS have them move.

So you always fly live? Never at evenings European time in Asia or Americas? Would be a too big limitation for me 😉

Greetings, Chris

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Just now, AnkH said:

So you always fly live? Never at evenings European time in Asia or Americas? Would be a too big limitation for me 😉

You are correct , I always fly live.  If I am the nerd that wants Live Traffic than I’ll have to fly Live too 😆

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1 minute ago, GSalden said:

You are correct , I always fly live.  If I am the nerd that wants Live Traffic than I’ll have to fly Live too 😆

Live Traffic with PSXT has, like other programs, some difficulties, but it is truly incredible the things you can find in the real world represented in your Sim's traffic. For example: When a plane does Go around, when the weather prevents takeoff and you encounter real traffic upon takeoff, placing yourself in a line of real planes ready to land, a plane waiting for instructions stopped in your path. All those things that happen in the real world that I understand cannot be represented in the traffic generated by AI or the Sim. It's another level.

Eduardo Lee

(MROC)

Well, to be honest, the moment you fly with your plane in a live environment at the airport and influence other traffic, e.g. by making them stop to let you pass or land, those planes are no longer «live» 😉

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1 hour ago, AnkH said:

Well, to be honest, the moment you fly with your plane in a live environment at the airport and influence other traffic, e.g. by making them stop to let you pass or land, those planes are no longer «live» 😉

We are ‘virtual’ guests in their real life world …😊

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1 hour ago, AnkH said:

Double post

Edited by GSalden

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6 hours ago, MySound said:

Yeah, just tried this App with the settings given in here (3080 ti, 5900X, 4K) and basically get now 15 FPS instead of 50 without the App.

Nice.......

Wow so you lost as much as a hamburger if you aren't willing to do further testing and it hasn't done anything permanent to your system...  If you are willing to give some more information like Nvidia settings, MSFS graphics settings, any other tools like autoFPS running, any external frame limiting, etc etc maybe someone can actually help you.  

Nice.... 

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16 hours ago, tfm said:

If the app is showing 144/144 then it looks as if it's working as intended. If you're not noticing any change then either (a) lucky you! Your performance is ace without it; or (b) maybe something is distorting the experience ... my first guess would be RivaTuner and/or AutoFPS. 

If the app has made things worse, then my suggestion is that it's (b) and maybe you should try without using both those tools - and make sure they're sufficiently deactivated / uninstalled to exert no spectral influence 👻  

(with love and respect to all those who use them, fixing the fps in RivaTuner is completely unnecessary and in fact RT won't work properly with multi monitors at all; and AutoFPS is simply redundant with the extra oomph given by this new app - and neither RivaTuner nor AutoFPS was designed with the app in mind so there might well be compatibility issues) 

Then in your MSFS settings: the ones you've posted look good: the main thing is Frame Gen ON, Vsync OFF. 

Then in the app, go for x2 or x3 as you like.

 

I followed your advice and removed RivaTuner and AutoFPS.

I have followed several tips that I have seen on the internet, such as limiting the FPS in the Nvidea Control Panel to the monitor frequency (144Hz / 144 FPS), also limiting the FPS for the MSFS App in the same Nvidea Control Panel to half the frequency (144Hz / 72 FPS), enable vSync for the LSFG App in Nvidea Control Panel, in MSFS play with DLSS, TAA, etc. But I don't see any changes and in some situations I see more of a stuttering. My system really works well without LSFG, but with limitations in traffic and some ULTRAs, that's why I want to be able to do the magic that you have achieved with LSFG.

some ideal

Eduardo Lee

(MROC)

Anyone give it a whirl with a 240 hz monitor? And what frames and settings are you using?

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NVCP -> Max Frame Rate -> 60 -> Vertical sync -> On -> MSFS -> FG -> Off -> LSFG -> X3 -> RTSS -> Off

I get 180 FPS (60/180) on Ultra settings

Edit: I turned on FG again after reading this and still getting 60/180, FG on is a better solution with LSFG on:

 

 

Edited by deepstar

Im limiting my FPS in NCP to say like 50 but in MSFS my FPS are still going higher than 50, why is that? 

Ron Hamilton

 

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16 minutes ago, fakeflyer737 said:

Im limiting my FPS in NCP to say like 50 but in MSFS my FPS are still going higher than 50, why is that? 

I think the same thing happens to me and that's why I don't see good results.
In my case I limit it to 72 FPS since my monitor is 144Hz, but the LSFG always continues to show 144 / 144 in the MSFS. I don't know if the correct thing would be to see 72 / 144.

Eduardo Lee

(MROC)

3 minutes ago, elee said:

I think the same thing happens to me and that's why I don't see good results.
In my case I limit it to 72 FPS since my monitor is 144Hz, but the LSFG always continues to show 144 / 144 in the MSFS. I don't know if the correct thing would be to see 72 / 144.

Exactly my problem. 

Ron Hamilton

 

"95% is half the truth, but most of it is lies, but if you read half of what is written, you'll be okay." __ Honey Boo Boo's Mom

7 hours ago, psolk said:

Wow so you lost as much as a hamburger if you aren't willing to do further testing and it hasn't done anything permanent to your system...  If you are willing to give some more information like Nvidia settings, MSFS graphics settings, any other tools like autoFPS running, any external frame limiting, etc etc maybe someone can actually help you.  

Nice.... 

WHo said I didn't do any testing? I tried with DLSS off/on, G-Sync on/off, HDR on/off. Tried the several options in LS.

FPS Limited in Nvidia App to 120 as I run a 120 Hz OLED.

EDIT: FG is off in the Screenshot as it was my last test. With FG off I get ~5FPS less than without LS. When I switch on FG all hell breaks loose.

 

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