3 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Anyone seeing better PG with rolling cache on? I always have it off. I thought that to get any benefits, you need to fly over an area frequently. Hence one pass over a PG city is not enough?

I am flying on A Pilots Life currently for British Airways. Numerous approaches to EGLL, in fact I am heading flying the Fenix to London now, I see no issues at all with PG on. I have never used rolling cache. 

Edited July 27, 20241 yr by Bobsk8

35 minutes ago, EGLD said:

every single street and building in London (and beyond) is rendered in high quality with PG WU17, OrbX doesn't get anywhere close

Orbx does not intend to be "close".
None of the Orbx POI products include any photogrammetry and 
the POIs are scenery objects, something altogether different.

Edited July 27, 20241 yr by Reader

The photogrammetry looks a lot better in this update, and also some how has better performance than before.

26 minutes ago, Reader said:

Orbx does not intend to be "close".
None of the Orbx POI products include any photogrammetry and 
the POIs are scenery objects, something altogether different.

I was responding to a claim that OrbX London looks better than WU17, I never said OrbX claimed to be better than PG

34 minutes ago, EGLD said:

I was responding to a claim that OrbX London looks better than WU17, I never said OrbX claimed to be better than PG

Nor did I, I was just pointing out that photogrammetry and POI scenery objects are two entirely different things, not least because POI scenery objects are, by definition, individual objects, whereas the new and excellent photogrammetry is every building, whether of particular interest or not.
Two entirely different things and as such, there is no "Orbx London", only Orbx points of particular interest in London.

Edited July 27, 20241 yr by Reader

please take your pedantry to the person who started the discussion and stop replying to me

6 hours ago, turbomax said:

"Over congested areas – Over any congested area of a city, town, or settlement, or over any open-air assembly of persons, an altitude of 1,000 feet above the highest obstacle within a horizontal radius of 2,000 feet of the aircraft."

Don't bother me with this nonsense! It's a game. I want to fly over the city very low! 🤣

But is it okay to have the PG on with this update and use ORBX? Thought there was some kind of conflict…

1 hour ago, Purr said:

But is it okay to have the PG on with this update and use ORBX? Thought there was some kind of conflict…

I am using Orbx London with WU17 quite happily. Haven't checked out Orbx GB South yet, but London is fine with the new World Update. Better than fine, I would consider it necessary still. Some of the stuff in the update is a bit out, to my eyes. HMS Belfast is apparently a couple of pleasure cruisers in the PG version, and Battersea Power Station is still a bit of a building site, whereas the Orbx version is more of a finished item. There may be other stuff too. Plus, POIs are (usually) much better visually than PG.

Edited July 27, 20241 yr by andy1252
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London photogrammetry has been problematic since MSFS release🤣

 

Edited July 27, 20241 yr by blueshark747

17 minutes ago, blueshark747 said:

London photogrammetry has been problematic since MSFS release🤣

which is probably why this update has been released.
Wild guess of course.
 

Edited July 27, 20241 yr by Reader

Personally I love the new PG. I flew out of EGLC the other night and was chuffed. 

PG simply can't be as clean and nice as handcrafted scenery. It's an imperfect tool, but the trade-off of having an accurate rendition of the city below me more than makes up for the imperfections. And, as with any technology, as they make small steps forward in the tools and methods available, it will continue to improve. 

I don't care if it's perfect, I care that positive progress is made, and that's what I'm seeing. 

Either way, the ORBX London City Airport is a must, and it fits in perfectly!

Lee

9 hours ago, Purr said:

But is it okay to have the PG on with this update and use ORBX? Thought there was some kind of conflict…

Yes I have done just that for hours on end. it's great as as others say above, fps is also increased.  Orbx pacts do not render the scenery in general any differently than Asobo. They just add things on top of it, their own versions of these interesting things (POIs). Like the London Eye. Which happens to look ok but not great in Asobo's WU. But really nice in the Orbx version. Lots and lots of POI's.

But UK N,C,S, and London City pack is 4 paywares. Add Orbx EGLC and it's 5. Before the WU they were worth it. Now, after the WU, I'm not sure they are. The new Asobo bespoke airports are nice too. I'm not sure the other payware versions are worth their price any longer.

In general, as time has moved on, the newer Asosbo bespoke airports are better than the bespoke airports that came with the older WUs.

 

 

I haven't had Asobo rolling cache on in years, I'm going to have to try it, based on messages above. I have 1.6 TB of my 4 TB drive free.