23 hours ago, b1bmsgt said:

Why, if I might ask. Did they improve the update system after I left? 😀

 

Russ

 They created MSFS, why bother with a third-party ? 

Pay no attention to complaints with the Xbox Store!

 

 

 

9 hours ago, Sethos said:

Steam version is straight forward, no nonense, non-encrypted, easy to use, access to all of Steam's overlay features much more easily. It's a no brainer.

Totally agree.

Steam version of MSFS2020 has been totally satisfactory so I'll definitely be going with Steam for MSFS2024.

 

 

I regret my MS Store purchase of MSFS 2020.  The only reason I did it was I had the 1 month store trial so it was quite easy to purchase the full up license.  Had I known the thoroughly fubar MS encryption and installation wonkiness behind it, I definitely would have used Steam.  Sad to say I'm now sort of stuck with the MS Store, but in the end it works "good enough".

Edited September 23, 20241 yr by TheFamilyMan

Windows store. Never had an issue. 

23 hours ago, Lord Farringdon said:

Ah, I see what you mean. So you can get a receipt for the credits you bought, but no receipt is available for the (shall we say) the airport you bought.

Perhaps this is to do with in-game purchasing. For example, if I buy something directly from Steam (not while I'm in any game), the purchase gives me a receipt and details the item I just bought, which would usually be a titled game. However, if I am in a game, such as MSFS, and I am buying downloadable content (DLC), then I can only do this with Steam credits. I therefore have to purchase Steam credits and may decide to buy just sufficient for the DLC I want, or to top up my wallet for future purchasing of in game DLC  in MSFS or any other game title for that matter.

Accordingly, it is the initial purchase of the selected quantity of credits which is the receiptable transaction (just like buying chips at the casino). What you do with these credits (chips) is your business and Steam doesn't see any need to give you a receipt for the part or full use of these credits since they are tokens, vouchers or even a foreign currency transaction which you have already fully paid for and been given a receipt for. You can use them at will.  I suspect Steam has no idea what DLC you exchanged for these credits and so only lists the name of the title you were in-game with when you used them. A bit like a credit card company that gives you a $1000 credit and on your monthly invoice shows you where you expended some of the credit and the amount you paid, but has no idea what you actually bought.

 

Seems a bit third world to me. In this age of transaction transparency, they have gone the other way. There is literally zero record available of what I purchased. Legally, for them, it's obviously genius. That's why I avoid Marketplace now completely. 

Had MSFS2020 on Xbox Game Pass and will do the same for FS24, will trial FS24 for a month or two then purchase it on Steam.

"Add-ons that were purchased from the in-simulator Marketplace will not need to be re-purchased in Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024”

 

So much for this.

 

Steam users have issues.  I don't want a 3rd party involved between me and the 1st party.  Steam has no secret access for trouble-free functioning and if you delve you will see they have issues that can thwart users I've read some there.  I've had 2020 since launch, did the initial install thru the MS Store as well as 2 subsequent reinstalls over the 4 years now and the last one into a new Win 11 install.   I've made probably 16 or so purchases thru the Store as well.  I've had zero problems with it ever in 4 years now including all Sim and World Updates.   Next purchase of course will be from the MS Store.

On 9/24/2024 at 12:25 PM, hanhamreds said:

"Add-ons that were purchased from the in-simulator Marketplace will not need to be re-purchased in Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024”

 

So much for this.

 

It's still true though

  

6 minutes ago, Noel said:

Steam users have issues

I've had zero issues with the steam version, meanwhile I've seen a lot of issues from MS Store users in the last 4 years.

Edited September 30, 20241 yr by Tuskin38

On 9/23/2024 at 3:52 AM, Max Kraus said:

There is literally zero record available of what I purchased.

There is a complete record of how much I paid for each purchase but odd the item itself isn't recorded.  Because of this I have taken screenshots of the Marketplace page that filters to what I own.

2 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

It's still true though

  

I've had zero issues with the steam version, meanwhile I've seen a ton of issues from MS Store issues.

Steam users can have problems no matter what you experienced.  I had ZERO issues w/ MS Store purchase for msfs and other.

Edited September 30, 20241 yr by Noel

3 minutes ago, Noel said:

Steam issues can have problems no matter what you experienced.

So can MSStore no matter what you have experienced.

But over the last 4 years, on this very subforum I've seen more MS Store only issues reported than I have Steam.

Edited September 30, 20241 yr by Tuskin38

1 hour ago, Tuskin38 said:

So can MSStore no matter what you have experienced.

But over the last 4 years, on this very subforum I've seen more MS Store only issues reported than I have Steam.

Steam early on for MSFS was probably more idio_t-proof and that is its draw.  I'm not the sharpest tech wiz in the batch and yet I had no trouble learning how to install MSFS from a store purchase.  Every single purchase has been flawless, my three complete installs on different hardware and OS were flawless as are all Sim and World Updates.  Everything I bought is recorded in Content Manager and the reinstall is simple as such.  My guess is most of those who reported troubles here didn't appreciate the few requirements demanded early on.   I learned the basic steps which were specific but few and simple.  Since then all reinstalls have been uber simple and efficient.  Don't want or need a 3rd party installer thanks.  

4 hours ago, Noel said:

Steam users have issues.  I don't want a 3rd party involved between me and the 1st party.  Steam has no secret access for trouble-free functioning and if you delve you will see they have issues that can thwart users I've read some there.  I've had 2020 since launch, did the initial install thru the MS Store as well as 2 subsequent reinstalls over the 4 years now and the last one into a new Win 11 install.   I've made probably 16 or so purchases thru the Store as well.  I've had zero problems with it ever in 4 years now including all Sim and World Updates.   Next purchase of course will be from the MS Store.

Steam users have issues!? I and many others have been entirely trouble free in over four years with MSFS, so what issues are those then please? do enlighten me seeing as you don't use it...

Edited September 30, 20241 yr by MarcG