35 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

"Lufthansa Systems collaborates with Microsoft and makes Lido Sky Data and Lido Route Manual available not only to professional pilots and pilots in training but also to more than 15 million aviation enthusiasts worldwide who enjoy using Microsoft Flight Simulator. "

 

We're getting access to the Lido Route Manual as well? 🤔

LHsystems says so...let's wait two weeks

you do realizes that regardless of chart providers, either Jepp and Lufthansa, they both creates high quality and exact, same data information for aerodrome and AIP charts for pilot usages.  Some airlines uses Lufthansa system for their flight planning and dispatching service, so not like Jeppesen it the sole supplier for all charting service to all global airlines

 

Just to avoid confusion,

I believe what our partner means there is that they are providing us with the same exact charts and charts metadata as they do their own Lido Route Manual service; as such they will be integrated into both the in-sim (EFB) and website-based flight planning tools. Lido Route Manual itself (the application) will not be distributed with the sim.

I can't answer any other questions, apologies! Just wanted to make sure that didn't spiral out. 😅

-Matt

8 minutes ago, avistudent said:

you do realizes that regardless of chart providers, either Jepp and Lufthansa, they both creates high quality and exact, same data information for aerodrome and AIP charts for pilot usages.  Some airlines uses Lufthansa system for their flight planning and dispatching service, so not like Jeppesen it the sole supplier for all charting service to all global airlines

 

My understanding is they don't both provide charts for the same airports. AIUI LIDO only generate a chart when a airline customer requests one which results in airports with Jeppesen charts but not LIDO.

Now I may be wrong about this, but if anyone can find LIDO charts for KMRJ for example I'd very interested to see them (in this case the FAA and Jeppesen have approach charts for the 4x RNAV approaches plus Jeppesen has an airport layout chart)

2 hours ago, GCBraun said:

I also prefer LIDO charts, but from what I’ve heard, they’re only available for airports where Lufthansa has—or could potentially have—regular operations. Is that correct?

Yes. But not simply Lufhansa, the entire Lufthansa group and all the real world customers not part of the Lufthansa group that subscribed to LIDO.

3 hours ago, ErichB said:

So we get Lido charts in sim?  Much prefer them to Jepp

Why is this?

46 minutes ago, ahsmatt7 said:

Why is this?

I was wondering too...  Jepp is far nicer.  I don't even mind FAA NACO plates myself but that's what we look at all day hehe

At any rate, it's very nice for people who won't be able to afford Navigraph sub.

 

1 minute ago, ryanbatc said:

I was wondering too...  Jepp is far nicer.  I don't even mind FAA NACO plates myself but that's what we look at all day hehe

At any rate, it's very nice for people who won't be able to afford Navigraph sub.

 

and those who just outright object to paying a monthly sub for charts

4 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

Jepp is far nicer. 

A complete matter of taste. I vastly prefer the LIDO layout and really missed it after Navigraph switched away from them to Jepp.

4 hours ago, Farlis said:

A complete matter of taste.

This.

Or, IOW, I think it's a question of what you grew up with.

I've grown to like the Jeppesen "Briefing Strip", but I still dislike their taxi charts. For large airports, it can take some time to figure out which taxiway identifier goes with which taxiway. I always found Lido taxi charts (or most national AIPs) easier to read.

I don't think everyone understands what a game-changer this is.

The ability to access charts directly in the simulator with no additional purchase is another step (and a big one) in offering a "full package" to flight simulation novices. That was a major point of failure for all previous simulators.

7 hours ago, cepact said:

I wonder if one day airlines like Lufthansa will remote fly their planes with pilots working from home on flight simulator

That'll be the day the passengers decide to stay home and book a virtual vacation abroad too.

Edited November 5, 20241 yr by Wildblue

7 hours ago, MattNischan said:

as such they will be integrated into both the in-sim (EFB) and website-based flight planning tools.

So we will have a web based version to use as well with MS2024, not just in-sim? That is really good if true.

13 hours ago, GCBraun said:

only available for airports where Lufthansa has—or could potentially have—regular operations.

only 35.000, bummer. 😃

Edited November 6, 20241 yr by turbomax

Frontier Airlines also uses Lido mPilot

https://www.lhsystems.com/article/frontier-airlines-relies-industry-leading-charting-solution

As does Emirates

https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/emirates-joins-iatas-turbulence-aware-platform-becomes-first-airline-to-integrate-flight-data-for-real-time-accuracy-with-lido-mpilot-from-lufthansa-systems/

Edited November 6, 20241 yr by Tuskin38