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Just FYI - Nvidia driver for MSFS 2024 was released today

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same, installed, deleted shader cache and all nice and smooth

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  • I believe this is the very first time I've seen a driver update referring to the flight sim I was using at the time, and this over decades!  Cool!

  • See this: https://thecategorizer.com/windows/clear-directx-shader-cache-in-windows/

  • I'm not certain it matters but I started the DXShader cache clearing by first uninstalling all NV related drivers thru Win 11 Installed Apps interface.  By doing this, since DXCache folders are associ

Sorry for my ignorance, but where is this shader cache.

Is it something you activate or is it a default cache.

Or better yet how do you delete it.

 

Ron

MSFS 2024 -Too many airplanes to name. Too many airports to name.

11 minutes ago, Ron Lefebvre said:

Sorry for my ignorance, but where is this shader cache.

Is it something you activate or is it a default cache.

Or better yet how do you delete it.

 

See this:

https://thecategorizer.com/windows/clear-directx-shader-cache-in-windows/

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17 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

clear your driver caches and everything

 

17 hours ago, Noel said:

I'm not certain it matters but I started the DXShader cache clearing by first uninstalling all NV related drivers thru Win 11 Installed Apps interface.  By doing this, since DXCache folders are associated with the specific driver, you will find those folders will completely empty and not repopulate, whereas if you just delete them w/o going thru the uninstall first that last set of associated shaders will repopulate.   I know several times when I've done this I noticed improved freedom from stuttering.  Right now I rarely ever see any stutters anywhere it's fabulous.

Used the NV clean install program this time (first time) and clean install option. Is that not accomplishing this?

NVM used disk cleanup and saw the checkbox. It has been checked so this has been done regularly....

Edited by Flyfaster_MTN002

SAR Pilot. Flight Sim'ing since the beginning.

1 hour ago, Flyfaster_MTN002 said:

 

Used the NV clean install program this time (first time) and clean install option. Is that not accomplishing this?

NVM used disk cleanup and saw the checkbox. It has been checked so this has been done regularly....

Disk cleanup hits a different folder than does the method I use, and I use Disk Cleanup first.  You can test your theory perhaps by keeping the DXCache folder open while you run the clean install, IF it is done prior to rebooting.  I use NV Clean Install option as well and notice NVCP settings are returned to default but don't know if it grapples with the DXCache folder.  In fact, until I got on to my method described above that folder has a massive number of entries which suggests perhaps all of those other driver updates did not remove them and those I always used Clean Install option with.

I'm going to update to this new driver after I land at CYVR and will report back if able to evaluate the theory.

Report:  yep, you're right the prior entries were deleted in fact the whole folder was.  

Cheers

Edited by Noel

Noel

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22 hours ago, Noel said:

I believe this is the very first time I've seen a driver update referring to the flight sim I was using at the time, and this over decades!  Cool!

All thanks to those million casual MSFS gamers that keep getting a side eye by some hard core FS veterans.
Albeit "gaming" is not my type of use for MSFS, I can't be happier about gamers funding my main hobby 😄

P3D never had the chance to grow an addon environment like we see around MSFS, because it was always main targeted towards aviation professionals.

9 hours ago, Ron Lefebvre said:

Sorry for my ignorance, but where is this shader cache.

Is it something you activate or is it a default cache.

Or better yet how do you delete it.

The way I do it: 

1. Set shader cache size to "disabled" under global 3D settings in NCP

2. Reboot PC

3. Delete the contents of the following folders:

  • %userProfile%\AppData\LocalLow\NVIDIA\PerDriverVersion\DXCache
  • %localAppData%\NVIDIA\GLCache
  • %localAppData%\D3DSCache 

4. Set shader cache size to "driver default"

Some claim that shader cache files are automatically deleted when updating the driver. I just updated the driver, and the files are still there. 

 

7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5

Unpacked it just shows me a DLL file. What do I need to do with that ??

3 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

The way I do it: 

is: I simply run the driver setup and that's it. I have never deleted any shader cache and MSFS still runs perfectly, even in VR.  should I be worried? 🤣

Edited by turbomax

AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

18 minutes ago, turbomax said:

is: I simply run the driver setup and that's it. I have never deleted any shader cache and MSFS still runs perfectly, even in VR.  should I be worried?

Probably not. I don't even know how much it matters to be honest 😅

7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5

22 minutes ago, turbomax said:

is: I simply run the driver setup and that's it. I have never deleted any shader cache and MSFS still runs perfectly, even in VR.  should I be worried?

No, neither have I.
MSFS runs better than ever….

8 minutes ago, DD_Arthur said:

No, neither have I.
MSFS runs better than ever….

Yeah me too. I have tried all this but the last year or so I just update the driver and forget about it. Hasn’t made much difference for me, things work as expected 

9800X3d, 4090, 64 GB DDR5 6000 RAM, 4 TB NVME (2x2), 4K Ultra + Framegen

1 hour ago, turbomax said:

is: I simply run the driver setup and that's it. I have never deleted any shader cache and MSFS still runs perfectly, even in VR.  should I be worried?

I wouldn't be too worried.  From my standpoint, if I'm having lockups or CTD's or stutters, then I may consider deleting the shader cache.  If I'm installing new drivers, sometimes I do it, sometimes not.

Rhett

7800X3D 96 GB G.Skill Flare  Gigabyte 4090  Crucial P5 Plus 2TB

Great driver, no stutters, noticeable FPS improvement.-  Read that the last DLSS is included

16 minutes ago, solito said:

Great driver, no stutters, noticeable FPS improvement.-  Read that the last DLSS is included

Wait, there's a DLSS version update? Those usually have to be "installed" separately per game. E.g. for MSFS2020 the .dll file(s) need to me manually copied to the sim folder. 

EDIT: I'm on 3.7.2 for the "regular" version and 3.7.1 for the "frame gen" version. Just checked on TechPowerUp, and NVIDIA DLSS DLL 3.8.10 ("regular" DLSS .dll) was uploaded yesterday. 

NVIDIA DLSS 3 Frame Generation DLL is still 3.7.1 i.e. not updated since June 13th. 

I'm not using the DLSS Swapper. I just copy the .dll files into my sim folder*, and replace. 

*depends on MS Store vs Steam, and also MS Store legacy vs modern. 

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