They should have told people that anything less than a 1 GB fibre connection makes this (game) not playable. I have my doubts that this can be solved server side. 

I have fibre in my second home where I will be over the holidays. The computer there is nothing but I am curious to see whether the connection is the culprit as I suppose. 

2 hours ago, SierraHotel BSc said:

 

My first impressions of MSFS2024

As expected it installed fine but trying to get connected and start a flight was not so good. I eventually managed to get into the sim this morning after LOTS of restarts (and swearing)

Once inside the sim it looks sleek and well thought out until you try to start a freeflight! I thought I was back in ARMA 3! Lots of walking around and it took me 20 minutes to discover how to enter the cockpit. Once inside the aircraft (TBM930) the view system is as expected, total s***!. I gave up trying to start a flight after 30 minutes of frustration.

Final Verdict

I'm sure MSFS2024 will (eventually) be one hell of a flight sim, but until MS sort themselves out and decide who they are catering for i.e. XBOX Gamers or Flight Simmers I won't be uninstalling MSFS2020 anytime soon.

agreed, it feels WAY more oriented towards XBox - well it did when I could fly, it just hangs after entering flight now

1 hour ago, pmplayer said:

That`s why i wait another 3 to 6 months more and by the way i am on a 5h flight with the lovely A380 and a happy camper i am !! 🫠

cheers 😊

sorry for backseat modding but we really don't need any more posts from people telling everyone how happy they are they didn't buy FS2024

What XBox gang does say about the release? Did they run into the same issues? 

1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

It’s not going to happen. Use the tag option. It’s not difficult.

 Not every poor decision is unchangeable. There are separate forums for every version of MSFS prior to 2020: the sudden dogmatism about 2024 is completely irrational. 

 

6 minutes ago, EGLD said:

agreed, it feels WAY more oriented towards XBox - well it did when I could fly, it just hangs after entering flight now

Can you explain how exactly it's "WAY more oriented towards XBox"? Not that core simulation aspects are only of interest to PC users (a silly myth), but I'm hearing lots of reports of much more deeply simulated default aircraft, better flight dynamics, better ground handling/physics, a complex flight planner, better clouds/weather and more realistic impact to aircraft than 2020, etc.
 

Couldn't get into the sim yesterday. This morning I was able to get to the main menu. Set up some stuff and planned a flight. So far so (reasonably) good. Started a flight and was stuck in outer space for 20 minutes before I decided to spend my time more useful.

BTW Even though I got as far as planning a flight I have lots of questions about how things work and how they should be set up... it's a totally different sim imho. Will take some time to figure it all out.

double post

Edited November 20, 20241 yr by EGLD

4 minutes ago, lwt1971 said:

Can you explain how exactly it's "WAY more oriented towards XBox"? Not that core simulation aspects are only of interest to PC users (a silly myth), but I'm hearing lots of reports of much more deeply simulated default aircraft, better flight dynamics, better ground handling/physics, a complex flight planner, better clouds/weather and more realistic impact to aircraft than 2020, etc.
 

haha, haven't got anywhere near flying anything yet, everything loads in with blurred textures, missing wheels etc, and that's when it does load in, most of the time it's hanging after selecting to enter the flight at the moment

I'm talking about the menus and how you interface with everything

Im having a grand time, already 4 flights done in the A330, and that thing feels amazing. Especially the ground physics. 

Unironically im not touching 2020. Already feel comfy in the sim after those flights, so I can enjoy this 330 and great atmospheric lighting for a few weeks in its current state until third party stuff catches up. Hopefully.

Edited November 20, 20241 yr by FedDriver

1 minute ago, lwt1971 said:

Can you explain how exactly it's "WAY more oriented towards XBox"? Not that core simulation aspects are only of interest to PC users (a silly myth), but I'm hearing lots of reports of much more deeply simulated default aircraft, better flight dynamics, better ground handling/physics, a complex flight planner, better clouds/weather and more realistic impact to aircraft than 2020, etc.
 

It's the usual refusal to adapt to something new. The same moaning could be heard when MSFS was released and the camera system and parts of the assignments were totally different from FSX or P3D. "Oh no, I have to relearn how that works?! Outrage!!"

Just now, Farlis said:

It's the usual refusal to adapt to something new. The same moaning could be heard when MSFS was released and the camera system and parts of the assignments were totally different from FSX or P3D. "Oh no, I have to relearn how that works?! Outrage!!"

yes, it couldn't possibly be someone with a different opinion to you, it can only be them being completely irrational

23 minutes ago, hjsmuc said:

They should have told people that anything less than a 1 GB fibre connection makes this (game) not playable. I have my doubts that this can be solved server side. 

I have fibre in my second home where I will be over the holidays. The computer there is nothing but I am curious to see whether the connection is the culprit as I suppose. 

I don't think that's correct.  you could have a 10GB connection.  The bottleneck is the microsoft servers, not the other side of the connection

Just now, EGLD said:

yes, it couldn't possibly be someone with a different opinion to you, it can only be them being completely irrational

Indeed. Because they don't complain that they have to relearn, which is an understandable complaint, they complain about "gamefying" and "catering to the kids on X-Box".

That's irrational deflection.

30 minutes ago, JonathanC said:

I’m flying the new sim and it looks and works great - simply cannot go back to 2020. Once the initial server issues were resolved last night (at least for me in Canada), I had a very enjoyable few hours checking it out, doing career mode and more. 
 

default planes are super detailed now, the default avionics are amazing. Rain effects are brilliant. Lighting in the cockpit is ray traced. 
 

and performance is vastly better than 2020! It looks and works much better and gives me a cool 80-100 fps (4K ultra. Frame gen on. )

Load times are much MUCH  better, making it much nicer to change flights - no more waiting for 5-7 minutes even on fast hardware  

Give them a day or two to sort out any issues with the servers 

That is called delusion. No way is it vastly better than 2020, it is 2020 why do people try to convince themselves otherwise? of course some areas will be better and more energy put into them, but just like 2020 there are vast areas which are not any different. Not worth the 70 quid upgrade and the UI looks awful.