10 hours ago, EGLD said:

😄

I took find it funny.  MS and Asobo are on the case.  In the meantime one can either refund or enjoy a fantastic move forward in flight simulation.

2 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

You want to continually blame someone and shout about it, but I will allow them time to fix the release bugs while very much enjoying what 2024 is doing exceptionally well.

 

Let's finally agree to disagree about our opinions on the state of release eh!?

1 minute ago, MarcG said:

 

Let's finally agree to disagree about our opinions on the state of release eh!?

Our opinions on the release state are the same, It is our response that is different.

9 hours ago, UrgentSiesta said:

It's too bad all the Serious Simmers seem to have forgotten EVERY SINGLE OTHER flight sim release.

Nobody remembers all the "FUN" came with each new version of Prepar3D...?

What were the problems with each release of Prepar3D? as far as I can remember, it was just waiting for the compatibility of some addons...

I don't remember any P3D release having a DISASTER like the one we're seeing with ‘2024’.

2 minutes ago, Juliett Alfa Romeo said:

What were the problems with each release of Prepar3D? as far as I can remember, it was just waiting for the compatibility of some addons...

I don't remember any P3D release having a DISASTER like the one we're seeing with ‘2024’.

Quite a difference in what they’re trying to achieve here though. 

2 hours ago, Juliett Alfa Romeo said:

I don't remember any P3D release having a DISASTER like the one we're seeing with ‘2024’.

I just recall that v5 was quite a messy release. DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_HUNG crashes from left to right. And those waffle clouds (repated patterns). AMD users had a particular tough time.

It was basically unplayable for many users without the subsequent hotfixes.

Edit : Here we go, so it feels like groundhog day reading those comments

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/574744-p3d-v5-in-beta/#comments

and here
https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/573819-p3dv5-hf-next-week/

Interesting quote:

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LM did not give beta testers opportunity to review  the release version and testers had also voiced objection to LM considering the number of issues in previous versions of the beta.    LM obviously had internal release timeframes they needed to meet for whatever reason.  This is not a beta tester issue

 

Edited December 3, 20241 yr by SAS443
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OK, v5 had SOME problems, but nothing comparable to ‘this’ 🙄

PS: and even so, I don't forgive LM's lack of support to solve the problems that still affect v5. But that's a subject for another thread and I now use another platform...

Edited December 3, 20241 yr by Juliett Alfa Romeo

9 minutes ago, Juliett Alfa Romeo said:

OK, v5 had SOME problems, but nothing comparable to ‘this’ 🙄

PS: and even so, I don't forgive LM's lack of support to solve the problems that still affect v5. But that's a subject for another thread and I now use another platform...

How much really changed from P3D v4 to P3D v5 probably some lipstick on ESP code? Now going from v3 to v4 was a big step up moving from 32 bit to 64 compatible.

Edited December 3, 20241 yr by JBDB-MD80

40 minutes ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

How much really changed from P3D v4 to P3D v5 probably some lipstick on ESP code?

The ‘TrueSky’ thing as default, I think.

This as an example: https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/request-for-the-unencryption-and-full-downloadability-of-default-aircraft-in-msfs-2024/667001/1

How can the yaysayers in this forum not SEE how totally borked this sim is, not only in regard of bugs, but also in most other aspects. Are people really that basic that some successful simple A to B flights with default plane and livery is sufficient for them to justify all this word not allowed? Well, then I see no hope for this flightsimming community... really, really hope that the Dec. 9 patch will clear some things up. Or already tomorrows dev stream.

1 hour ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

How much really changed from P3D v4 to P3D v5 probably some lipstick on ESP code?

The whole world's coastlines, rivers and lakes were upgraded hugely making 3rd party products like UTX Europe, North America and Caribbean redundant. Enhanced Atmospherics makes a big difference too. And further refining core optimisation to spread the load.

Quite a bit more than "lipstick on ESP code" I would say.

I am thinking of trying MSFS 2024 via game pass option - I was going wait for some time originally but it seems a lot of people are saying that sim now runs a bit better then what it was when it was released. There are still issues with it - but I want to give it a try myself to see differences between the two but also to ensure my current system is compatible with it. I am getting a new PC custom build for 2024 version but it will take some time to get my hands on it. 

How does game pass work? I am assuming I'll have to install it via MS Store rather then Steam which is what I am used to. 

Edited December 3, 20241 yr by CAP1234

14 hours ago, Simon_C said:

Nobody is going to DIE if a software - a GAME at that - doesn't work for a week. Come on.

😄 who said that?

or anything remotely like that?

13 hours ago, RichieFly said:

Just my opinion and my trying to understand what all the fuss is about.

are you reading any of these posts? 😄

there's no cryptic wording to decipher - MS/Asobo released an appallingly buggy piece of software where core features such as aircraft and career modes do not function as described

you can disagree whether that's important, but I fail to see at this stage how anyone can be oblivious to people's concerns

12 hours ago, scotchegg said:

it’s a disaster that should never have been released

again, who said this? 😄

it should be released, in a state fit for the price tag and claimed development stage

it's beta at best