4 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

This is false. Do you even own MSFS 2024?

Yes I do.  You define “interaction” different than I.  

Checking oil, moving flaps and then what?  Kick the tires?  The “action” is pointless, per my original statement.  Why waste development resources and time on something that has no purpose/consequences?

There is no “interaction” in any meaningful way to the service of the aircraft.  I don’t have an option to call a service tech.  Same goes for inside the cockpit also … it’s pretty common for equipment failures in the cockpit that require calling of maintenance who will onboard, evaluate, and either register the fault and allow continuation of flight or not and have another aircraft flown in or brought over from another area … this is actually very common.  I only fly about 20 times a year and 3 of my flights were delayed due to equipment issues.

 

4 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

I consider that a useful and immersive addition to MSFS2024.

Sure, it would be nice, but the process of walking around is to identify and get fixed any issues noted by the pilot/CO that were missed by the grounds crew.  Implementation of just a single part “walking around” without any real consequence … in MSFS 2024 the checklist will always be completed without incidents … knowing that, it has no actual purpose.  Nothing is ever broken.  We can’t call over a service tech to fix it … MSFS 2028?  Another 4 year wait?

I think the point was there are many other high priority issues that need to be addressed. 

56 minutes ago, scotchegg said:

Some are actually being quite vicious. We’ve seen calls for people to be fired, that they have no right to be proud of their work, 2024 has killed the franchise, it should be pulled, if you’re enjoying the sim you’re an apologist, a bootlicker, a kook-aid drinker, one of the first comments on today’s devstream thread was ‘Hate them all’ etc. etc.

Frustrations and complaints I get, but wow, there are some very disproportionate outbursts flying around.

ad hominem attacks are a favored form of debate these days.  Civility is a forgotten human trait in much of what is called social interaction.  I blame the assumed anonymity of the Internet and the cancel culture.

-B

Edited December 4, 20241 yr by btacon

4 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

You come off as a little word not allowed in your statement

Is this civil?

16 minutes ago, btacon said:

Civility is a forgotten and forgone human trait in much of what is called social interaction

Indeed, but perhaps better worded as precise communication founded on a logical constructs that can diverge when facts deminish.

Sorry, no idea what “cancel culture” is … sounds like a politically motivated device similar to the birth of “woke” as a means to division via stereotyping.

The anonymity of the “Internet” has done nothing more than expose what people really think/feel … this is far better than hiding behind a face to face interaction under the pretense of being “civil”.  I would much rather know than not know.

Edited December 4, 20241 yr by CO2Neutral

26 minutes ago, CO2Neutral said:

Sorry, no idea what “cancel culture” is … sounds like a politically motivated device similar to the birth of “woke” as a means to division via stereotyping.

I realise I have somehow metamorphosied in to a 1960s High Court Judge in recent years, you know, the "Who are these 'Beatles'?"' sort of guy. I don't do any kind of social app stuff, apart from being on here, and so I go through life blissfully unaware of a lot of this stuff. For example, I'm aware of people using the term "woke", and I have sort of inferred what I think is its meaning, but I've never seen/heard it explained so I wouldn't care to try and explain it to anyone else. Pop culture stopped for me sometime around 30 or so years ago, I'm quite happy to say.

Oh, and I'm not *rsed about learning what "woke" actually "means", so please, don't bother to enlighten me.

As far as 2024 goes, I started out as Grumpy Old Man, but after a few days I'm way more "peace and love, groovy, man" about it all. But whatever point you're at on the love/hate spectrum with 2024, coming on here and simply restating your opinion over and over again, and having a pop at those aligned differently to you, is completely pointless.

(and this reply is not specifically aimed at you @CO2Neutral, I just noticed the "woke" reference)

By the way, if you own both 2020 and 2024 and have room, then do not delete either. That would be stupid. You need to refer to 2020 to see what all is in your content manager and in community and in official folder and what is in your Addon lInker 2020 folder stuff.

Keep them both for at least 6 months if you have room. And by the way a 4TB drive is cheap unless you want to get the latest spec drive which is only a tiny bit faster than an old spec drive.

On 12/3/2024 at 4:42 PM, LRBS said:

and they are quite lucky to have people who do not know better and who still believe in flying an airplane from a passenger seat or even outside the airplane. This is not the purpose of a flight simulator/game, whatever we want to call it.

As far as I'm aware, it's not illegal to hook a trailing camera with negative zoom outside of a real airplane and then have that being displayed on a screen in the cockpit. So I got you there 🙂

 

My 2 cents on the preflight walkaround idea...

1. Microsoft should include information in the SDK for custom walkaround events. That way, aircraft developers could pick the items that are relevant to their aircraft. Removing engine covers and chocks for small GA aircraft, checking fire bottles for jets, etc.
2. The walkaround mode should have easy controls (one click, or one button) for Entering the walkaround, one for Exiting the walkaround and entering the cockpit, and one for Bypassing the walkaround entirely (which takes care of all required items).

I think that would make most people happy.

They explained why they were doing this pretty well in the dev stream. While some people have 1,5TB available disc space, this isn't the cast for the vast majority of customers. And downloading such an enormous amount before even being able to launch the sim is unrealistic as well. Also they now have the ability to update parts of the sim without a scheduled patch. So it makes sense for the future considering that 1,5TB would be only the base sim, not including any add ons. And the size would only grow in the coming years. I remember people being upset about COD reaching more than 100gb...

So while it has some growing pains this decision makes sense. 

What doesn't make sense is how obvious and reproducible some of the bugs, especially in VR are. If game breaking bug occurs in 100% of the cases, no matter what hardware is used there is something seriously wrong with either their Q/A and/or there deadlines. 
It is perfectly fine that a plane spawns inside a tree for the new missions when all is procedurally generated and this happens on only a small fraction of locations. It is not fine if a passenger gets stuck on a wing of a low wing airplane in one of the first missions and takes a ride outside every single time. 

 

On 12/4/2024 at 4:37 AM, robert young said:

That's interesting, because aside from modern cameras, the eye can look towards the sun (if it wasn't so dangerous to the eyes) and still see a lot of detail. It is extremely rare to see sunlight that blots out such a big proportion of detail.

Saying this, you would be amazed how much detail can be obscure when landing into a low sun with a little haze. The other day I had to make a go around when approaching an unfamiliar grass strip, simply because I could not make out the runway because the markers were hardly visible.

13 hours ago, CO2Neutral said:

Sorry, no idea what “cancel culture” is …

It’s happening a lot in British universities where an individual in the public eye is invited to speak to students. If that person hold views that the students disagree with they have forced the university to cancel the visit.

Not interested in hearing views that disagree with their own. I’ll leave you to decide on the merits or otherwise of that.

5 hours ago, kakihara123 said:

While some people have 1,5TB available disc space, this isn't the cast for the vast majority of customers. And downloading such an enormous amount before even being able to launch the sim is unrealistic as well.

I’ll disagree.  How much space someone has available “on average” (the old LCD claim to avoid flexibility) should not have any bearing on cache size and flexibility.  If user X has 1TB available, use 50% of it (500GB), if user Y has 100TB available use 50% of it (50TB).  There is no “additional coding” required and you don’t restrict a products potential due to some survey number representing a specific demographic.  

According to my ISP, I typically download about 4TB per month and since I run unlimited price point with my ISP downloading (around 800-950Mbps) MSFS scenery isn’t a problem.  Again, why handicap those that can support more and handicap a products potential?  There is absolutely no coding inference and a huge benefit to product potential.

LCD = Lowest Common Denominator

 

3 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Not interested in hearing views that disagree with their own. I’ll leave you to decide on the merits or otherwise of that.

Ah, “the view” … yeah, not really a subscriber to “views”, but definitely will subscribe to facts with demonstrated evidence that follows a scientific methodology with a proven record of results.  A “view” just seems like an easy way out of not doing the leg work for actual “discovery”.  Of course I tend to only care about “views” if they have an actual impact on my life … then it’s time for actual discovery (yes, that involves work beyond YouTube and Google).  Sadly many seem to care about views that have ZERO impact to their lives.

3 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

It’s happening a lot in British universities where an individual in the public eye is invited to speak to students. If that person hold views that the students disagree with they have forced the university to cancel the visit.

Not interested in hearing views that disagree with their own. I’ll leave you to decide on the merits or otherwise of that.

Single thought is the new dictatorship.
If you don't think like me, I reject you.
These young people are screwed.
Sometimes... I'm glad I'm not 20.
Poor world..

10 minutes ago, CO2Neutral said:

Ah, “the view” … yeah, not really a subscriber to “views”,

Change view to opinion. Does that change your attitude?