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Ifly 737 Max Impressions.

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I've been flying it since November and have never returned to the PMDG 737. No problems at all, except as mentioned above that it is impossible to load fuel and passengers from Simbrief

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  • Captaintull
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    There’s nothing wrong with the ifly7, I’ve been flying it for 2 months without any issues… very very stable aircraft, I don’t understand why your having problems… funny how one plane works for one per

  • Nothing wrong with the plane, you just need to learn how to use it. 

  • Ok. You should stick to PMDG then. No big deal if you can’t learn something new, lots of people have trouble with that. 

I think it’s a fantastic aircraft. I only fly the Fenix more because I’m lazy and often by the time of night I get to fly I largely just want to look out of the window and let the plane take the strain. The 737 definitely makes you sing for your supper! 

We are talking here about the best simulated and closest to reality aircraft in the history of consumer flight simulation.
Apart from a few inaccuracies very well noted by A330 Driver on YT, all systems are impeccably reproduced.
The flight model is absolutely incredible, given the limitations of FS.
If I had to recommend ONE plane to really understand and learn, this would be it.
The second would be the FSLabs Airbus, but I will not venture into this "delicate" subject.
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10 hours ago, Captaintull said:

There’s nothing wrong with the ifly7, I’ve been flying it for 2 months without any issues… very very stable aircraft, I don’t understand why your having problems… funny how one plane works for one person and not for the other … sorry your having issues with it… it’s a fantastic immersive add on … 

Just the same for me, nothing wrong with this beautiful MAX8, can't understand what's goeing on on your side..

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I don't own the iFly MAX in FS 2024, although I intend to buy it as soon as it get's released because I also purchased and really enjoyed it in P3D.

But I am with @Bobsk8 regarding the menus, because they're probably in line with the P3D version and it took me quite a while to get accustomed to them.

Now, this is not an addon fault but just the fact that I was so familiar with PMDG style that it was "complex" and took it's time to get acquainted with this new "model". 

Anyway from what I faintly remember since it is now more than 1 yr that I quit P3D, one of the biggest difficulties was getting the units of measure between EFB and FMC, in sync... It's in the tutorials, but it's difficult to find...

The other problem I had with the P3D version was finding a perfect match between the SimBrief profiles and the aircraft Load&Fuel settings... I hope it's simpler in MSFS.

Flight dynamics wise and VNAV / LNAV wise, logic wise overall I really liked the iFly 737 MAX in P3D and it became the only aircraft I was using with that platform.

I look forward for two things now:

1) That Bob can finally get all working more in line with his expectations, and ends up being able to enjoy the iFly 737 MAX for MSFS;

2) That I can follow him and you all with positive experiences with the iFly when I am able to use it in my preferred sim ever! MSFS 2024 !!! 

Bob, it's us - we're getting "Old as dirt" (well, at least I am...) 🙂  BTW!!!??? Where is "Old as Dirt" ? Never got to see his posts again ?

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I love the iFly 737. Can‘t confirm anything negative here, it‘s very good. That said it is a bit rough sometimes in regards to VNAV, but nothing major.

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2 hours ago, jcomm said:

I don't own the iFly MAX in FS 2024, although I intend to buy it as soon as it get's released because I also purchased and really enjoyed it in P3D.

I believe you get a discount if you owned the P3D version and then a free upgrade to MSFS2024.

I am not sure if they’ll keep the offer if you only get the 2024 version.

I do enjoy this add on but like others have said I wished the EFB would automatically input the passengers and payload from a Simbrief flight plan. 

10 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

spacer.pngI just lost the Nav Map function on the left PFD. I have the ILS display on both the left and right , I can't see anyway to get it back. 

If the F/O EFIS CTRL panel was set to APP (we cannot see it in your screenshot) -

Having the CONTROL PANEL select switch on the overhead in position BOTH ON 2 will (correctly) result in this exact situation.
 

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10 hours ago, Stearmandriver said:

Be sure you turn on the lockout for your yoke as well.  Early on, there were folks who saw lateral and vertical excursions for the same reason; transient control inputs overriding the automation.  

 

8 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

The other issue that bothered me on the approach, from about 1500 AGL down, was the roller coaster above and below the glideslope, almost like phugoid oscillations with the airspeed rising and lowering in step with the vertical deviations. I finally just disconnected the AP and AT and hand flew the rest of the approach.  No gusty winds, or weather issues at the time. 

You only explicitly confirmed you turned on the AT lockout function in previous posts.
Could you please check what selections you have set under PANEL STYLE > AUTOPILOT (PG 2/2) > CONTROLLER SETTINGS ??

Did you turn on 'Inhibit Yoke when autopilot engaged'?
 

Also be aware that (unfortunately) these AT and AP lockout settings need to be set again for EVERY installed livery SEPARATELY.

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4 hours ago, David Roch said:

We are talking here about the best simulated and closest to reality aircraft in the history of consumer flight simulation

But no MCAS right? Not even a simplified version to keep AOA under control during a steep climb? Can you even notice the CofG differences with say an empty aircraft compared to the NG or classics? 

Russell Gough

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1 hour ago, Sylle said:

 

You only explicitly confirmed you turned on the AT lockout function in previous posts.
Could you please check what selections you have set under PANEL STYLE > AUTOPILOT (PG 2/2) > CONTROLLER SETTINGS ??

Did you turn on 'Inhibit Yoke when autopilot engaged'?
 

Also be aware that (unfortunately) these AT and AP lockout settings need to be set again for EVERY installed livery SEPARATELY.

Yes locked out both throttle and yoke in settings.

 

 

 

 

I'm quite happy with the iFly Max 8, no issues at all. I would recommend a reading of the manual, including the section dedicated to the initial setup of the sim, very basic.

Probably is not as good as the PMDG B737s, which represents a high standard, but it's very good in my opinion and the only Max available, at least for FS2020.

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6 hours ago, Stearmandriver said:

I suspect it must have been related to a keybinding or hardware binding / LVAR issue.  If it were a bug in the plane, there definitely would have been another report of it by now.  Interesting though..  if you do see it again and especially if you find it repeatable, please report. 

As far as the oscillations on final, I've not seen this either.  I find the flight model to be about the best of the airliners I've tried in MSFS, and I've tested enough autolands in it to expect rock solid ILS tracking into the flare.  However - did you have any 3rd party weather or turbulence app running?  Activesky, FS realistic, or anything like that?  I don't have experience with any of those myself but I've seen reports of the iFly not playing well with them.  Might be worth a try with plane MSFS weather if so.

I use active sky and had moved the turbulence up a bit last week. I will reduce that and see if that helps. 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Sylle said:

If the F/O EFIS CTRL panel was set to APP (we cannot see it in your screenshot) -

Having the CONTROL PANEL select switch on the overhead in position BOTH ON 2 will (correctly) result in this exact situation.
 

I never touched that switch on the overhead, but if it happens again, I will check that switch position. 

 

 

 

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