If you ever wanted to jump back in it’s never been easier than the current generations of MSFS.  Much more user friendly than P3D was in terms of the need to tweak and tinker.

For the record, I love 2024 and 2020 in both 2D and VR. But being a GA flyer and scenery lover I choose 2024 for 95% of my flights. Everything looks so much nicer to me in the Springtime 2024. Fall and Winter looks realistic to me in 2024, which is to say drab and dreary, washed out, sepia toned.

7 minutes ago, regis9 said:

If you ever wanted to jump back in it’s never been easier than the current generations of MSFS.  Much more user friendly than P3D was in terms of the need to tweak and tinker.

And a great deal more stable and more performance friendly. The days of needing very high-end hardware and endless hours of testing and revising settings is largely a thing of the past -- remember the Affinity Mask discussions, things like that are pretty much in a bygone era now. 

3 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

I accept it no problem, but for many it is working very nicely indeed.  Great news that 2020 needs no more fixes as it is perfect.

Excuse me but where did anywhere in my post did I SAY MS2020 was perfect? Its far from it. Its currently in a better state for me though.

Edited February 22, 20251 yr by JBDB-MD80

14 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Really?  Still people saying this!

It is true of course, it needs a SU or two 😉

6 minutes ago, Rimshot said:

It is true of course, it needs a SU or two 😉

So does the other one 😉

15 hours ago, united001 said:

I stopped flight simming with MSFS over 10 years ago due to a constant stream of problems with CTDs
and various other problems that I simply no longer had time to try and fix. Do I miss flying with MSFS?
You bet I do. I am envious of add-ons such as Beyond ATC which I did purchase and use when it 
first emerged. To see and listen to the videos of what BATC does now is just incredibly awesome and
 just makes me miss the whole experience even more. I had used every version of MSFS since its inception
decades ago including to the wonderful heady years that Tom Allensworth started AVSIM and was still with us.
I met Tom in Denver the year that some of us met together to use the United Airlines flight sims. I feel so thankful to have shaken
the man's hand and thank him personally for having started AVSIM. And that was what over 20 years ago?
I have lost track of time. I continue to lurk every couple of months and read posts and they all make me smile, but
I am the nostalgic sort after all. Anyway, I wish AVSIM and the entire MSFS flight simming world nothing
but the best. I will continue to lurk and read and enjoy what you all post. Take care everyone!

United001

I loved reading your story and the nostalgia behind it. I got into flight simming with FSX back in 2010 and 2 years later, I started flight school in Canada and got my PPL within 6 months and I've been enjoying aviation since: both in the real world and in flight sims. I stayed with FSX until 2018 or 2019 I can't recall 100% and then just stopped flight simming due to a new job that necessitated I travel more and life got busy and all. Fast forward to Feb 2024 when I decided to try MSFS2020 after drooling over so many youtube videos that made me realize how much I miss flight simming. I tested the waters with my old system at low-medium settings: an i7 3770K, 24GB of DDR3 RAM, and a GTX 1660Ti. I loved every bit of it and I soon upgraded to my current system and I couldn't be any happier.

If you're on the edge, go for it. You won't regret it. Things have come a loooooooong way since 2015!

22 minutes ago, St Mawgan said:

So does the other one 😉

Absolutely

Let me get this straight, someone came on here to share a personal story of their Flightsim journey along with a story about he met the creator of Avsim. Then like clock work, it turns into a typical avsim urinating match over peoples’ opinions about two versions of MSFS. What a joke. The narcissism of some of the members on here to think that they can come into any thread and speak. I’ll bet money said narcissists out themselves after reading this post. 
 

To the OP, thank you for sharing your story. Especially when you were able to fly a sim at the United training center. Which airplane did you fly? How did it get organized? 

23 minutes ago, ahsmatt7 said:

Then like clock work, it turns into a typical avsim urinating match over peoples’ opinions about two versions of MSFS.

Sad and true. Probably would be better off sticking to fsx. The forums are quiter, and everyone is on the same side

1 hour ago, Rimshot said:

It is true of course, it needs a SU or two 😉

Well, it will always need an SU or two - 2020 still gets them and so does/did every other sim.  If 2024 is not considered ready until no more SU's are released, those people will have to go and play Monopoly.

Well one thing for sure since 10 years ago, MSFS gets a lot more frequent updates 🙂 (both fixes and enhancements)... and Asobo/MS engages way more with the community than the simming world of 10+ years ago.
 

19 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Well, it will always need an SU or two - 2020 still gets them and so does/did every other sim.

Well yes, of course! So why are a lot of folks so defensive when flaws in MSFS 2024 are pointed out?

18 hours ago, united001 said:

I stopped flight simming with MSFS over 10 years ago due to a constant stream of problems with CTDs
and various other problems that I simply no longer had time to try and fix. Do I miss flying with MSFS?
You bet I do. I am envious of add-ons such as Beyond ATC which I did purchase and use when it 
first emerged. To see and listen to the videos of what BATC does now is just incredibly awesome and
 just makes me miss the whole experience even more. I had used every version of MSFS since its inception
decades ago including to the wonderful heady years that Tom Allensworth started AVSIM and was still with us.
I met Tom in Denver the year that some of us met together to use the United Airlines flight sims. I feel so thankful to have shaken
the man's hand and thank him personally for having started AVSIM. And that was what over 20 years ago?
I have lost track of time. I continue to lurk every couple of months and read posts and they all make me smile, but
I am the nostalgic sort after all. Anyway, I wish AVSIM and the entire MSFS flight simming world nothing
but the best. I will continue to lurk and read and enjoy what you all post. Take care everyone!

United001

Well, I wish you'd start Simming again! Watching swimming is only fun if you don't have access to your gaming rig 😁

Stability and reliability is far better than it was ten years ago, and of course, the simulation experience is incomparably superior.

I regularly fly MSFS v24, X-Plane, DCS World, etc. and I rarely have issues.*

And when I do have issues, it's usually an errant addon...

*Certainly MSFS v24 had a rough launch and there are still things that need fixing (like, AHEM!, The Marketplace).

** I still spend some time in Prepar3D v5, and it's still a good sim - and many of the FSX add-ons are compatible!

Edited February 22, 20251 yr by UrgentSiesta
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On 2/22/2025 at 1:27 PM, ahsmatt7 said:

Let me get this straight, someone came on here to share a personal story of their Flightsim journey along with a story about he met the creator of Avsim. Then like clock work, it turns into a typical avsim urinating match over peoples’ opinions about two versions of MSFS. What a joke. The narcissism of some of the members on here to think that they can come into any thread and speak. I’ll bet money said narcissists out themselves after reading this post. 
 

To the OP, thank you for sharing your story. Especially when you were able to fly a sim at the United training center. Which airplane did you fly? How did it get organized? 

***************************************

First of all. ALL of all of your responses make me smile and chuckle. I love too that the whole 2020 vs. 2024 thing got going because AVSIM forum enthusiasts have been doing that from day 1. And better yet, others roll their eyes that the controversy comes up yet again. It's all good and great! I was able to pilot the A319 sim. WOW, what a rush. It lasted 20-30 minutes? I don't recall. Had a real instructor, a very nice lady. Got a pic with her, it's around here somewhere. How did it get organized? I have no idea ... I THINK Tom was still around? Not sure because the time I met him was not about the sims at United. Maybe it was at some other conference thingy, or was it?\ Oh well.

Anyway, I just discovered that I have been absent from MSFS far less time than I thought. I actually left off 6-10 months or so after ASOBO took over so 2020+ That's good to know and time flies like a Concorde! My favorite route to fly in a FBW A32NX (i stopped flying a few months short of their A380 for context) was PDX - LAX and back again over the entirety of the State of California, Fresno where I grew up. I would always do a look down around Fresno and get the chills. I loved flying descent over the San Gabriel's near KONT and then turn west especially at dusk and land east to west on 25R. The flight back to PDX always curling around Mt. Hood for my approach always to  28R. Always with an Alaska Airline paint job. Gives me chills just remembering.

Thanks again guys. Flightsimmers are the best!

United001