17 minutes ago, GoranM said:

I make add ons.  I work until 4am.  It'as currently 325am.  Occasionally I venture into several forums to see what's going on.  Maybe there are some people who would like to know how animations in 3D models work.  Just a guess.

I get your sarcasm, but I know for the fact that deep inside there something else drive you here 😉

5 minutes ago, lwt1971 said:

Well that's great 🙂, and ya not everything has to be debated hotly, this is a discussion forum so decent debate is to be expected. Re: sim physics not being important to landings, I presume you're talking about what Farlis said and he can explain more. But that's not what I'm saying, nor various others.

Once again, ini is clearly taking advantage of some of the new ground physics improvements (that helps with taxiing, modelling of braking/skidding/etc and carrying of momentum properly, etc), and yes it's also clear that the landing compression physics is not there (what's not clear is if that's an omission on their part, or if the sim platform doesn't provide for good modelling of that).
 

I've made my point I think the horse has been beaten and anything else is redundant. 

20 minutes ago, B777ER said:

Stops by Avsim before heading to gym. Sees 3 pages of back and forth about MLG compression in latest addon release. The lads never let me down. Well done, be back later. 

landing gear compression isn't important in a flight simulator?

14 minutes ago, lwt1971 said:

.... or if the sim platform doesn't provide for good modelling of that (Landing compression physics)
 

😲

huge if true, and very much in the category of ground physics for me

14 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

I get your sarcasm, but I know for the fact that deep inside there something else drive you here 😉

I'm assuming you're a Windows PC owner.  I have a Mac, that I work on.  That Mac is ALWAYS on.  When I go to bed, I put it to sleep, which means everything that is open on it, stays open.  Including my browser...Safari.  In Safari, 2 of the tabs that are open belong to Avsim.  One tab is for this forum.  The other tab is for the XP forums.  Meaning I am logged in to avsim 24 hours a day, with those 2 tabs open.  

I also have a Windows PC that I run MSFS 2020 on.  I don't have 2024 yet.  I have experimented with 3D mesh in 2020.  Just in case, because I constantly get people asking me to make add ons in MSFS.  What drives me here?  Information on MSFS.  What's wrong with it.  What's right with it.  Posts about Jorg and Seb and their streams/videos.  Sometimes, posts like this, where people are arguing over gear compression.  I've seen many posts where I would've loved to jump in and get into a debate.  But I really don't have the energy or time to do that.  

As much as you MAY want there to be some kind of evil intent or hidden agenda, there really isn't.  

Edited February 28, 20251 yr by GoranM

1 hour ago, psolk said:

That's a lot of words to say that yes, this is a clear omission on their part, especially with the price point and other features included like tire squat and taxiing physics that was shown in the preview videos for example.  

Not modelling the single point of contact with the ground compressing on takeoff and landing is omitting a pretty big part of ground physics... 

it’s the same reason people get frustrated with Asobo. 2 steps forward, 3 steps back. 

30 minutes ago, EGLD said:

😲

huge if true, and very much in the category of ground physics for me

Well, obviously support for landing gear compression among various other aspects is there in the sim platform. Some aircraft developer or Matt Nischan etc can speak properly to what extent things are supported. Perusing the SDK docs, there is all this information where gear compression physics is definitely mentioned:

https://docs.flightsimulator.com/html/mergedProjects/How_To_Make_An_Aircraft/Contents/Files/Flight_Model/Wheels_And_Contact_Points.htm
https://docs.flightsimulator.com/html/Content_Configuration/SimObjects/Aircraft_SimO/flight_model_cfg.htm#note_ground_contact
https://docs.flightsimulator.com/html/mergedProjects/How_To_Make_An_Aircraft/Contents/Modelling/Airframe/Animations/Animating_Landing_Gear.htm?agt=index

So ya, if the A350 is not exhibiting good modelling of that (either visually and/or in the actual aircraft internal physics modelling) then it clearly is an omission by iniBuilds, or it's not well done (or a bug), or it's not taking advantage of all what the sim platform is capable of, or the sim platform is not capable enough. Only iniBuilds and the MSFS devs can really speak to the facts I guess.
 

Edited February 28, 20251 yr by lwt1971

Strut(landing gear) compression is the sim, and SEB demonstrated it in one of the Developer videos when he discussed the updated ground physics. 

Edited February 28, 20251 yr by brinx

7 minutes ago, brinx said:

Strut(landing gear) compression is the sim, and SEB demonstrated it in one of the Developer videos when he discussed the updated ground physics. 

Nobody has denied this. I have seen myself planes with suspension. But the fact that the ‘highly praised’ iniBuilds (do not) offer something like this for THAT price is a rip-off.

18 minutes ago, GoranM said:

I'm assuming you're a Windows PC owner.  I have a Mac, that I work on.  That Mac is ALWAYS on.  When I go to bed, I put it to sleep, which means everything that is open on it, stays open.  Including my browser...Safari.  In Safari, 2 of the tabs that are open belong to Avsim.  One tab is for this forum.  The other tab is for the XP forums.  Meaning I am logged in to avsim 24 hours a day, with those 2 tabs open.  

I also have a Windows PC that I run MSFS 2020 on.  I don't have 2024 yet.  I have experimented with 3D mesh in 2020.  Just in case, because I constantly get people asking me to make add ons in MSFS.  What drives me here?  Information on MSFS.  What's wrong with it.  What's right with it.  Posts about Jorg and Seb and their streams/videos.  Sometimes, posts like this, where people are arguing over gear compression.  I've seen many posts where I would've loved to jump in and get into a debate.  But I really don't have the energy or time to do that.  

As much as you MAY want there to be some kind of evil intent or hidden agenda, there really isn't.  

 

Both xplane and msfs platform constantly evolving.  Nobody knows what can be done until someone actually does it! Back in the days, I never knew that FSX was capable to offer add on of A2A depth! Or Xplane addon of TBM900 depth. Both in my opinion are golden standard for current sim platforms. Despite your initial resentment of MSFS I would gladly buy anything you would developed my MSFS 🙂

P.S. I'm windows PC  and MacBookPro owner . I use both for work. As far as entertainment goes the only game I run on Mac is Civilization , my PC is primarily used for sims 😎

 

duplicate

Edited February 28, 20251 yr by EGLD

1 minute ago, flying_carpet said:

Nobody has denied this. I have seen myself planes with suspension. But the fact that the ‘highly praised’ iniBuilds (do not) offer something like this for THAT price is a rip-off.

precisely, it's a huge omission and I don't recall any of the paid up streamers mentioning this fundamental flaw

4 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Or Xplane addon of TBM900 depth.

The update will make the original look like a child’s toy. 
 

 

5 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Despite your initial resentment of MSFS

I’ve never resented MSFS. I’ve posted many times that I’m not against MSFS in any way. I sat through the 2024 presentation at the expo. I’m an MSFS customer since FS5 when it was on MS-DOS. I beta tested Flight. I’ve bought every MSFS version that came out.  I think it’s very limiting for developers. I don’t particularly like WASM. But it is what it is. 

Doing my first real flight today (ATL-LAX).  FMC or whatever Airbus calls it is giving me a bit of a headache.  For the record most of the time I am pretty lazy don't always bother programming the whole thing.  It mostly comes down to time constraints so I often make short cuts.  Today I tried to properly set up the FMC but kept on getting Discontinuity errors so I said heck with it and took off.  Once at cruising altitude I attempted to program a DirectTo KLAX.  I can enter it and it recognizes it with distance remaining showing but when I click on Insert Dir To it all just vanishes like nothing ever happened.  

I am sure I am doing something wrong or perhaps it requires something programmed in the Route section?  However usually Direct To usually works getting to where you need to go easily. 

I am sure I will get it figured out shortly!  

I have EFB's which are more dimmed than PFD/ND/ECAM . Any one else having this. ?

Could use some more brightness/sharpness

Michael Moe

Edited February 28, 20251 yr by Michael Moe